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Why Liberals Need To Calm Down When It Comes To Obama’s Budget Proposal

calmdownLiberals have been up in arms over President Obama’s budget proposal.

Trust me, I get it.  There has been quite the liberal fear campaign against it.

Well, I’m here to tell you to take a deep breath and calm down.  This is what happens when you let knee-jerk reaction and emotion drive your opinion.

Since the Summer of 2011, soon after Republicans held the debt ceiling hostage, Obama took a new strategy when it came to dealing with them.  He puts the decision on them.  He makes them look radical and out of touch.  He makes them look unreasonable.

He did it with his jobs bill in 2011.  He took the rhetoric Republicans were pushing about jobs needing to be a focus, presented his American Jobs Act, and let Republicans sink when they refused to pass it.  He did it with the extension of the payroll tax in December 2011.  He did it more recently with the “fiscal cliff” (where he also had offered a chained CPI in his first proposal).  Now he’s doing it again.

His first proposal is meant to stir anger in liberals.  Get them going.  Get them outraged.  You know why?  Because that’s a great tool for him to say, “See, I proposed something that angered even my own base—and still Republicans were too busy playing politics to accept my deal.”

He knows Republicans won’t accept this deal.  Hell, why would they?  It calls for tax increases for the wealthy and spending for programs that help the poor—two things Republicans have overwhelmingly opposed in the past few years.  But what are they supposed to do?  For years they’ve slammed President Obama for not proposing a budget (which is a lie)—now he’s proposed one that can’t be mistaken for anything radically left-wing, because it’s actually angered liberals.

Now they’re stuck.  Obama proposed a budget, and it’s pissed off liberals.

But they’ll never support it, because he’s the one who proposed it—Obama knows this.

So now much of the public perception, especially from Democrats, is “Obama made a radical right-wing compromise, selling out liberals” and Republicans now have to try and spin that into “We’re not the radicals, Obama is the left-wing radical who refuses to compromise.”

But now Obama has forced their hand.  For weeks they’ve been warning of the evils of the cuts made by the sequester, and now Obama has proposed a compromised budget which would solve most of those problems.  Now they have to stall, then eventually reject, this proposal.  But come back with—what?

If they respond with a budget proposal that removes those tax increases, Obama simply scoffs and removes the chained CPI from his proposal.  If they come back with one that greatly reduces those tax increases, Obama still pulls the chained CPI proposal from his budget.  See, the chained CPI is his chip in this budget proposal that he’s going to yank if Republicans even slightly pull back on any of his proposed tax increases.

He knows the level of increases he’s proposed aren’t anything Republicans will agree to, but he knows the sequester is the tool for which he can use to get them to vote on some of his tax increases–without including the chained CPI.  The chained CPI is just the tool he’s used to show he’ll make a very unpopular choice, even within his own base of support.  Which eventually shows Republicans aren’t really serious about compromise.

This has a few uses:

  1. It paints Republicans as radically right-wing, unwilling to compromise on even a proposal that many liberals strongly oppose
  2. It may force Republicans to vote for tax increases for the second time this year, something that will anger their base and divide their party even further
  3. Nothing may get passed and that still paints Republicans as the party that simply won’t work with President Obama no matter what he proposes, and further emphasizes the incompetency of Congress since Republicans took control of the House in 2010

And that’s where I think a lot of this is headed.  The Republican Party is a mess right now.  The Tea Party, meant to take the Republican Party to new heights, instead is tearing it apart.  The base, the right-wing radicals who comprise most of the Tea Party Republicans, are uncompromising in their outdated ideology.  However, nationally they’ve grown very unpopular, and they’ve made the party as a whole seem horrifically outdated.

So Republican politicians have a choice to make:

  • Work with Obama, angering their base, which may cost them their jobs during Republican primary elections
  • Pander to the base, appearing more radical to the general public, and risk losing their jobs in the general election to a Democrat

It’s really a no-win situation for many of them.

Obama sees this and is driving the national view that Republicans are not acting in the best interest of the American public, right into the 2014 elections.

He’s offered them what they’ve been pushing for–and Democrats have opposed–and they still won’t support it.  It’s a brilliant set up:

  • Pass the bill as-is, which raises taxes—and would send their party into even bigger turmoil
  • Push for less tax increases, or none at all, which would remove any talk of a chained CPI
  • Propose a budget which includes nothing of which Obama wants, and show Republicans really have no desire to compromise
  • Do nothing, and have a bill which Obama can tout as a fair compromise die in the House—which again would paint themselves as the party that simply won’t work for the American people

Either way, Republicans simply can’t win.

President Obama knows this, and he’s betting he can play Republicans all the way to the 2014 elections—where hopefully Democrats can take back power in the House and gain a filibuster proof majority in the Senate.

Then it will be up to Democrats to get out and vote, so we can make damn sure that happens.

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Allen Clifton is from the Dallas-Fort Worth area and has a degree in Political Science. He is a co-founder of Forward Progressives, author of the popular Right Off A Cliff column, and an unapologetic Hillary Clinton supporter. He is also the founder of the Right Off A Cliff facebook page, on which he routinely voices his opinions and stirs the pot for the Progressive movement. Follow Allen on Twitter as well, @Allen_Clifton.

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  • Susan Campoccio

    hmmm… we shall see… who is spinning….

    • Miguel Jones

      Yep. I’m not buying the 11 dimensional chess argument having watched him sell out the public option in healthcare, and pre-bargained away to Pharma $80B.

  • Dominick J.

    It’s not the Liberals who need to calm down it’s the PROGRESSIVES!!!! They’re the ones sending around the nasty petition/s to stop the President from caving in and HE’S NOT!!! Alan Clifton is lying and misleading and trying his damnedest to divide us!!!

    • Andy Olsen

      You all should join us and oppose cuts to Social Security. First, it has nothing to do with the deficit. Second, it should not be risked in some high stakes poker game. And Democrats should be trusted to defend Social Security – not undermine it. This is a goof of historic proportion.

      Look, folks, it’s okay to criticize your President in this country — especially when we helped him get elected (twice).

  • jewel benedict

    he is still A ok

  • Leslie Byrne

    Unfortunately regardless of President Obama’s rationale, the budget perpetrates the myth Social Security has anything to do with either the deficit or national debt. Furthering the Republican falsehood is dumb.

  • Jeremy

    Couldn’t agree more with this piece.

  • Andy Olsen

    So, you claim that Obama proposes what he actually opposes? You think the President is being deceitful? That’s one of many reasons this strategy is ridiculous. Which Obama are we to believe? (My view: he really does want to cut Social Security – after all he is devoting precious time in his second term to it. Plus he’s said so.)

    This plan also puts seniors on notice that Democrats cannot be trusted to defend Social Security and Medicare. Apparently, they cannot. And we have a retirement crisis in this country that needs answers, not games.

    Now a loyalist portion of the Dem Party will speak up to advocate for the President’s proposal for Chained CPI cuts. Democrats will more than ever openly advocate for cutting Social Security. The Dem Party will be riven (as this snotty piece towards liberals demonstrates).

    You guys think all this cutesy nuanced game playing is understood across the land. It is not. It reinforces that Dems cannot be counted on to stand up for anyone. Obama’s efforts to cut Social Security will be a weight around the neck of Democrats running in 2014.

  • John B.

    Not to worry my ass! I voted for the President both times,but I am beginning to believe all politicians are the same, liars!! Won’t believe that the CPI won’t be in the budget until it’s signed. This not some sort of a political game for us on SS.

  • Caroline

    Bull-oney. It’s the whole 12-dimensional chess boondoggle again…

  • Rebecca Brown

    Why suggest that we calm down and chill out when our anger is essential to what you say is Obama’s strategy?

  • PBerg

    WHY on earth would you be angry with Obama’s superior strategy?????? Look, do you even know what the CPI increase is??? It is merely the calculation of future COLA’s based on GDP, instead of the way it has been. The only ones who will feel the few dollars difference between the two are disabled and elderly poor, and Obama has already put in that those classes will be excluded ! Most of us will not even notice the difference. Obama is a genius when it comes to making the Righties look like fools and o bstructionists. You go Obama. You have them by the short hairs—-keep it up.

    • Linda

      PBerg, You are the one who does NOT know what the CPI increase is. It certainly is NOT the “calculation of future COLA’s based on GDP (Gross Domestic Product), instead of the way it has been.” You come with such a ludicrous statement and expect to be taken seriously? Or do you simply think there are enough stupid people that will buy your load of crap? And, please do tell me how the “disabled and elderly poor” will be protected. Because Obama said they would? Exactly how is that — have you seen one place where that has been spelled out in any manner? Please share. And, of course we can believe Obama when he promises that — because after all, he also promised not to switch to chained CPI and that he would protect SS benefits and that he would not cut SS benefits. He is just selectively lying right now to make the lying Republicans look bad. I am sick to death of people rationalizing what Obama is doing — which is throwing a huge part of his constituency under the bus and that will hurt all of us when we can’t count on that constituency in 2014 and beyond. Heck, I’ve just about had it as well and I’ve been working in the trenches electing Democrats for over 40 years. Because I believe in calling any elected official’s BS. Regardless of party affiliation. Isn’t that what we’ve been asking GOP voters to do?

  • http://www.skeptictank.org/hs/brainwas.htm Fredric L. Rice

    Left wing bullshit in an effort to make Obama look like he’s some how different from the Bush regime. “It only looks like he’s committing treason against everything our country stands for in an effort to make the other fake political party look bad.” I wonder if any progressive believes such bullshit.

  • Nick

    Yes, liberals need to relax and just accept that Democrats and the president especially, are nothing more than corporatist republican lite.
    Liberals need to accept that he and every other democrat serve the corporate establishment while blowing smoke around to appear populist.
    Just relax…nothing is going to get better and the difference between the parties is little more than a joke.

  • Rob

    I just love how liberals think they are the complete opposite of Republicans. When you are owned by corporations just as much as Republicans. Obama supports Wall Street too. Where is Obama on the Patriot Act? Civil liberties?

  • Kenny Browne

    Yeah,whatver..The fact is,he is a traitor, aliar and a sell out.Once again,in the name of compromising with people who refuse to yield a single inch to him,he kicks his base to the curb..

    You can write 10,000 words if you want.It boils down to this..The wealthy get their tax breaks and those dependent on the programs they’ve paid into their whole lives get screwed..When are people going to quit voting for the two party tag team?

  • George M

    This article is right on the money…so obvious yet not seen by as many I you would think…bet the Republicans see it.

    • Gail Anderson

      You know I have to admit I am a a Democrat all the way and since Friday I have signed so many petitions for Obama not to CUT SS, or Medicare and Medicaid. We even notified our Congressmen and all. I kept saying I can’t believe Obama is doing this, well little did I know. He is as smart as a FOX. and As George M syas He bet the Repukes seen it. Well now that it has been explalined to me of coure they do and you know they are going to look bad no mattr which way they go. Good becuse we need to get them out of office come 2014. What a smart man our president is.

  • spruett15

    I’ll bet he is one hell of a chess player. He’s always 10 steps ahead of these morons! Most people don’t realize how SMART he is!! I have faith in him. He is a good, decent, honorable man who has a real heart for “We, the people”. Some other people must believe this too or he wouldn’t have been elected again.

    • m walence

      I agree with you, that Obama is the Chess Master.

  • http://Welderbeest Eldred Fuchs

    So, we’re supposed to be pretending real anger at prez,when allawhile we’re really angry at the prez. Gotcha, boss. No prob.

  • Linda

    “Then it will be up to Democrats to get out and vote, so we can make damn sure that happens.” You really think folks who feel like they’ve been thrown under the buss are going to be pounding the pavement and phone banks? Registering voters, getting out the vote? Standing in long lines to vote, themselves? Not happening. Great strategy, if that’s what it was. Myself, I think Obama means every bit of it and I’m really sorry I worked for and supported him through the original primaries and both general elections. No, I’m not going to vote for some teabagger. But, I’m not going to actively support a lying Democrat, either.

    • Dominick J.

      Linda aren’t Progressives DEMOCRAT TOO??? And if people think they’re being thrown under the bus it’s because You dam Progressives are always making it sound that way!!! The title to this article is misleading not to mention JUST a BIG LIE!!! What does the President mean every bit of??? He never once said He was going to do anything!!! You and the Progressives are putting words into his mouth! YOU have to wake up and LISTEN to what the President says NOT what some political party says!!

  • LOUANNE

    I love our President, but, even I have become jaded. I live on social security, worked very hard in my younger years and now my livlihood is being used as a piece on a chessboard and I am so weary of it. I trusted before, now I am just plain fed up.

  • http://Welderbeest Eldred Fuchs

    So what happens if, say OWS or another group fields a team of real progressive candidates in 2014? Would that still produce a win-win?

  • Dominick J.

    Linda aren’t Progressives DEMOCRAT TOO??? And if people think they’re being thrown under the bus it’s because You dam Progressives are always making it sound that way!!! The title to this article is misleading not to mention JUST a BIG LIE!!! What does the President mean every bit of??? He never once said He was going to do anything!!! You and the Progressives are putting words into his mouth! YOU have to wake up and LISTEN to what the President says NOT what some political party says!!

  • Ronald Eide

    Not the least bit impressed.
    Let your yes be yes & your no be no!
    Scaring the hell out of old people is a shameful game.
    If people don’t know by now the Republicans are the party for the rich, & the rich only, they have their heads in the sand.
    Relax my Ass!!!

    This so called Sequester”

    • http://parsleyspics.blogspot.com Leslie Parsley

      Tell that to the Republicans.

  • Steve Graves

    This sounds great, but it falls apart when you stop assuming that the American voters are actually capable of rational thought.. Keep in mind they elected Reagan twice and a Bush tree times since then.

  • Ed Shafer

    This sounds scary as hell to me since I live on social security, but the way you explain makes it sound like a brilliant chess move. I just hope to hell you are right. Time will tell and OH YES I will be voting in 2014, that you can bet on.

  • George Stout

    What a great idea! I have donated to Dems in the past and I WILL NOT be donating again until the Chained CPI is off the table!

  • Nancy

    I understand the logic and it could possibly work but I’m like other people who don’t like or appreciate our only source of income being used as a pawn. If they decide to take the deal, there are going to be a lot of old people who are going to suffer and might need a place to live and food to eat. Guess our new address would be 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. I’ve been signing a lot of petitions and also sent an email to the White House for the President. I really don’t expect anything from it but I needed to let them know how I feel. I guess if it works out the way we want it to, we should be proud of the fact that we have a President with a heart and a brain. If not, we’re screwed.

    • Cassandra

      From the comments I see the “liberals” still don’t get it.

      Yes, we do have a President with both a heart and a brain and he is not going to let old people become homeless…which was the situation in this country right up until many of these government programs of support for elderly and disabled persons came in beginning with FDR.

      Up until then the aged, the handicapped, and the destitute were pretty much on their own and the Republicans STILL managed to land us in the Great Depression even without any “social programs” to blame.

      If we stop supporting our party because we’re afraid of the President’s policy we’re digging our own graves. It doesn’t mean we’d lose what we have…it just means that, like those who lost their jobs during this last fiscal crisis we, too, would have to “tighten our belts”.

      And it is right that we should if it will help our Nation’s Economy recover.

      Are we not Americans, too?

  • Phyllis Denison

    And if he doesn’t “yank” the chained CPI??? What then??? How many seniors receiving SSI as their only income will be left homeless?
    The health care plan including Medicare and Medicaid don’t cover all health care costs nor reimburse providers sufficiently so that some
    – many – are no longer accepting Medicare recipients or Medicaid recipients or have cut way back on the number of appointments allotted
    to those groups already = the only winners in the health care game are the Health Insurance companies and their stockholders. After all,
    with every part of Affordable Health Care – an insurance company is the middle man.
    As far as Social Security – it is NOT an Entitlement, nor a Benefit – it is what we paid into while we worked and is, or should be fully
    funded — except that over the years the fund has been taken time and again for wars and more. Now that sob’s want to take more
    from us with no plan or safety net for those without pensions, retirement accounts or savings.
    This is a neat little bit of journalism, but it is not reality. The President is willing to sell out millions so that the Republicans can
    see he’s willing to make concessions. He gives back 5% of his salary – it should be 50% or 100% and every single politician should
    do the same.

  • Phil

    Assuming you are correct then why would it be a bad thing for Liberals to get pissed and all up in arms? Would that not be the point you’re trying to make, that his proposal angers his own base so he can show he’s made some real effort at a compromise budget? So IF the Liberals DON’T follow that tact and get all knee jerky and up in arms then what becomes of his tactic? He loses, we lose. And IF the GOP can actually gain some kind of foothold, forcing him in a position to keep the SSI/Medicare offer on the table? Then what? How does he renege and withdraw it if YOUR scenario doesn’t play out?

    This president has a history of giving more than is asked for BEFORE he ever gets to the real negotiating stage and people know it, that would actually be why so many are mad about this. Had another Progressive President tried this tact your views might have seemed valid but as it is it appears more like you’re trying to get us to “ignore the man behind the curtain” as the Wizard told Dorothy. I lost respect, and consequently hope, for this president in his first term and quite honestly he only got my vote to keep Romney out of office.

  • Linda Jenkins

    Okay. As long as that’s the “nature of the game”.

  • icecld2

    Bullshit

  • Policywank

    If we had parliamentary elections, this would make sense. We don’t. It doesn’t. This strategy is not going to get a Democratic majority in the House. If it’s really what Obama is doing, he’s more politically inept than I’ve thought.

  • Cassandra

    Well, I can’t speak for anyone but myself. But I know I’d be ashamed if I were to try and justify just how it was I couldn’t make do with a little less “cost of living increase” if, by doing so, it would make the burden a little lighter on the hard working people out there who are still raising families and wanting their share of the American Dream.

    If it must be it must be.

    • policywank

      The average social security benefit this year is $15,168.36. If that’s what you’re living on, would you really be “ashamed” to let go of a couple hundred extra dollars after you paid for that benefit your entire life through your payroll taxes? Those sound like the words of someone who has never had to worry about where their next meal would come from.

      • Cassandra

        As a matter of fact I make do on much less that that. $8520.00 a year. It’s called SSI Disability.

      • Jamie Carter

        have you spread that out over a years time thats 1230.00 a month or thats what is average according to ss for a month now average rent in the us is 600 to 800 dollars a month will say 700 just because thats the middle ground. that leaves you 530 dollars. For food the average middle of the road cost USDA is approx 50 dollars a week so take out 200 dollars out of that.That leaves you 330.00 but wait we’re missing something utilities hmmmmm phone, water, gas, trash, and electric do you still feel like giving up a couple hundred a month. well ok here goes 100.00 for electric I rounded up 5 bucks 30.00 standard phone 50.00 water sewer <<<<< not my numbers but ehhhh 35.00 gas 30.00 trash bill. that comes to 245.00 dollars that leaves you a grand total of 85.00 that is until you pay your medicare premiums ……..O.O oh damn those are 100.00 looks like your 15 dollars short theo . hand it over

  • http://[email protected] sunny lenz

    dangerous game – if accepted we’re screwed…we need tax increases on the only people w/ money

  • TiaLee

    This is what I am hoping that the plan is. Or something very similar. Otherwise, we are doomed.

  • Luci McMillan

    I think that is playing a game with the American people who can not afford the loss!

  • Melanie Taylor

    I feel much better, thank you.

  • E in md

    What he is doing is playing politics with other people’s lives. He hired him to lead. Not dink around with the Republicans.

  • Jamie Carter

    I’d feel so much better about this if he hadn’t supported the sequester as well hmmmmm now see where we’re at ehhh the repubs took him up on that one and now we’re starting to feel the pinch and God help us it’s the children that are suffering first. So no it doesn’t make me feel better if I thought the republicans were into rational thought I’d feel great but they’re not so no not feeling better. and yes there is the whole he said she said on who started the sequester the point is not who started it but that it was agreed on. so my thing is why suggest something the loons will agree too and hurt the country because if they go for it when the weights fall Obama will look like the bad guy to everyone and the repubs will point fingers and say Obama Obama hes our man we couldn’t do it but surely he has.

    • John Cooper-Martin

      Right. Obama did agree to the sequester, in the first place, when he shouldn’t have. And now the most vulnerable in our country are suffering the most. If Obama is strategizing, with this, he’s playing a high risk game, with the most vulnerable people; and that’s no game.

  • John Cooper-Martin

    I disagree, in several ways. When a leading Senate Republican, Lindsay Graham says, on Meet The Press, “When you look at chained CPI and Medicare reductions (in Obama’s budget), we’re beginning to set the stage for the grand bargain,” then, to me it shows some Republican leaders are open to going with Obama’s budget, with reductions in Social Security and Medicare. I wouldn’t want to get in that “Texas hold ‘em” poker bluffing match to see if I could win.
    Also, do you think 107 Members of The House are willing to risk Obama successfully strategizing with Republicans? If they weren’t worried Obama would betray the Democrats’ values of Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid the 107 Members of The House Democratic Caucus wouldn’t have signed the letter on February 15 to Obama urging him not to put Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid on the table, in negotiations. Now that he has, sure they are angry, but is this good strategy? He needs all the help, energy, and enthusiasm he can get, from every Member of his own party, plus a lot of Republicans, in The House, to get past gridlock.
    Plus, lying, to me, if it is strategy, it is really bad strategy; it’s just plain morally wrong, and it is hurtful to people, in this case to vulnerable people and people who were instrumental in getting him elected, in what really was a pretty close popular vote election, even though The Electoral College vote wasn’t.
    Additionally, what’s Obama’s track record of getting his agenda passed, when the Republicans have controlled The House? Nothing. And his only two legislative successes I remember, when the Democrats controlled both chambers, was The Health Privacy ACA and the weak financial reform bill, which doesn’t have much teeth to be useful, as we see Elizabeth Warren, this week, having to keep on fighting to try to get.
    So, I don’t put much trust in Obama’s political strategies’ successes. And I don’t like lies, to get what you want: they’re wrong, for one, and they will come back to bite you, for two.

    • Alex

      I agree with you, BUT, the only reason more of his agenda hasn’t been passed is purely because this newfound Republican party is just trying to make Obama and the Democratic(oh, I’m sorry, I mean liberal. Every Democrat is a liberal in the eyes of the Republican party), party look bad to the public and seem as though they “can’t get the job done.” In reality, its just a stunt that the Republican party is pulling to try and gain power.

  • Michael

    Give me a break! Obama is one THE SMARTEST “politicians” EVER! I get a kick out of these thin-skinned “Liberals” (which is what I am), and ‘Progressives’, that get pissed and fidgety –regardless of the strategic moves this man makes to counter those that simply want to oppose him– just to be opposing him! This demographic of Libs/Progressives see the abundance of opposition this President faces on a DAILY BASIS… the BS he has to deal with, YET they CONTINUE to take their frustration on “OBAMA”! –perhaps, the most intelligent President EVER! And that’s considering all the effort put forth by BOTH Republicans ( and Blue Dog Dems) to sink him, and make him look bad! You guys are a JOKE, and certainly NO HELP to the Left and the Progressive cause. Go back to your fetal positions, and just stay there!

    • Brent Slensker

      Agreed! …..but tell us how you REALLY feel.

    • Bob Aveyard

      Wah,wah,wah,you’re the crybaby Michael,my vote deserves more,so does yours,it’s his 5th year,where’s the beef?

  • John Albertini

    So he’s bluffing? With the future os all our seniors? A-hole! Now what if they call his bluff?! He slashes SS?!

    He should stand on his bully pulpit and propose that LEFT-WING budget and explain WHY! Let the GOP vote against THAT! You know they would. Same result at election time or they have to cave for a change.

    He’s just a lackey for the 1%. Worst President EVER!

  • Bob Aveyard

    Bullshit, you got our votes,show us the money!

  • Cassandra

    He isn’t “slashing” anything. The amount you are receiving now will not be touched. All this plan will do is make “cost of living increases” LESS frequent. NOT non-existent And, by the way, those of us who have to live on SSI Disability get “cost of living” increases when YOU do so this affects us too. As you can see, though, $8,520.00 per year which is what it stands at now means that ours doesn’t increase as much as yours.

    As for the sequester had he not agreed to that he couldn’t have gotten the Republicans to support higher benefits for our returning veterans which was a worthwhile cause too.

    It might interest you to know that the first Social Security check ever issued was a lump sum benefit payment to a Mr. Ernest Ackerman. It was for 17 cents. Social Security did not begin on-going monthly benefits payments until 1940 when Miss Ida May Fuller of Ludlow, Vermont received her first monthly payment for $22.54 .

    She got a cost of living increase in on October 3, 1950 the year cost of living increases began.

    She died in 1975 at the age of 100.

    ***********************************************************************

    SSI, on the other hand, began in 1974 and while it is not paid from Social Security funds (the program is funded by US Treasury General Funds) it is issued BY the Social Security Department and is designed for persons who are (a) 65 or older but who have never managed to pay in enough money to qualify for Social Security or (b) disabled.

    Usually the person collecting SSI after age 65 is also disabled.

    (I will be 63 next month and so you now know how I fit in. I use a powered wheelchair…rather gaudily called a “power scooter” to get around although I can manage short distances with a walker. I have had several heart attacks which haven’t made matters better and I won’t bore you with the rest).

    But now I realize why my attitude towards all this is different from yours. Social Security was money taken out of your taxes to be paid back to you when you reached “retirement age” whether or not you actually retired. It is YOUR money and, naturally, you want it BACK.

    And you WILL get it back. This plan doesn’t say you won’t GET it. It just says you won’t get a raise as often. So even if the WORST happens and the Chained CPI goes into effect you are not being abandoned.

    Nor am I. Although, unlike all of you the money I get to live on isn’t MY money…I get mine because I live in a civilized country called the United States of America where most of the people care about their neighbors (in the broad sense in which Jesus used the word) and I am grateful to my neighbors and to the Lord each and every day that I have a roof over my head and clothes on my back and food in my stomach. Which may be the reason why I am not so upset about the possible effects of this program.

    I don’t believe anyone owes me a living…so, yes, I can make do with fewer raises if it will help the economy and the working people…the people who have helped ME.

    One more note: It may not be as cataclysmic a change as the doomsayers are forecasting:

    Read this: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-07/chained-cpi-s-diminishing-returns-for-u-s-budget.html

  • Jeffrey Edmonds

    Cost of living for SS is lagging behind 25 years already. this will be devastating in another decade.
    Even if this is as you say just a move from the obama playbook, it is still reckless.

    If it did go through it would be more catastrophic than people are realizing at this point.
    My mother has lived very meagerly for the last 15 years and has gone through 100 grand worth of nest egg just to survive. SS is crap as it stands.

    • http://WWW.EdRudy.com Ed Rudy

      Jeff Edmunds, Social Security was always meant to be an adjunct to other retirement planning and savings for older Americans.
      It seems to have worked quite well for your mom.
      We hope that she continues to enjoy her retirement and the Social Security supplement to her “nest egg”.

  • Jack

    Obama would sell his mother’s beating heart for a dime from those he serves. This writer is an Obot, one who blindly follows Obama as he expands the Bush “defense” spending, the Bush wars, the Bush bankster bailouts, things Bush, with very low popularity when leaving office, couldn’t possibly have accomplished on behalf of the ruling Forces of Greed. Obama immediately surged 30,000 in Afghanistan and spent 2011 trying to get Iraqis to back out of the agreement by Bush to withdraw troops by the end of 2011. He’s started new wars and increased bombing in Pakistan and Yemen. To say this man is brilliant for putting social programs on the table as poverty increases (read LUV News today) is butt kissing of the most propagandist kind. http://luvnews.info/Join.htm

    • Cassandra

      Jack, since your news source is the Liberty Underground of Virginia (a Marxist/Leninist Organization) one can hardly view it as unbiased.

      • Jodda

        Yes, anything to the Left of our corporate-owned pro-war MSM is ‘Marxist/Leninist’. What a joke!!!

      • Hunter

        Cassandra, if you look at the beliefs of the organization, of which I am not a member, they believe in a non-militarized peaceful world of vegetarianism and more equal opportunities for all. Kind of hippie and idealistic, but hardly Marxist. They aren’t calling for the overthrow of capitalism, but an economy where peoples needs are met and we stop profiting off other people’s misery. What is so bad about that?

  • Pearl

    I live on Social Security & Medicare & it should NOT be a bargaining chip with the GREEDY Republicans! It’s not a GD game for those of us seniors that depend on it for our livelihood!
    I wish some of you younger people had to live on it & then tell us how you’re doing 10 or 15 yrs up the road with no cost of living raises!!
    I can tell you that I have had to do away with many small frills; like the daily newspaper, etc.
    Before the nightmare of “W” as POTUS I could afford a newspaper.

    • Cassandra

      Newspapers are SO last Century, Pearl.

    • Chickie

      Pearl; you did get a cost of living raise… that check you got was to cover the last two years and if you are so PO’d at the President, then you should also understand the CONGRESS holds the countries purse strings… NOT THE PRESIDENT!! Stop Voting for Right Wing TeaThugs and start Voting FOR Sanity! Blame the Republicon Controlled Congress! The Republicans have been trying to destroy Social Security and Medicare since it was enacted! It was Democrats that made SS & Medicare a reality, NOT Republicans!! Learn your facts and stop watching and believing Fox News… they don’t care about you, unless you are a millionaire or a large corporation. Wake UP!

  • Chickie

    How do I register on this site? :D

  • Jodda

    You Obaggers who are defending the preznozzle while he goes about slashing money for the poorest of the poor are the same tools that refer to his drone strikes as ‘humanitarian’, and who argue that he has to murder children to save them. My hope would be that you could see yourselves in this article, but I’m certain you won’t, as you all just ‘know in your hearts’ that Obama is a good and decent man, with nothing but our best interests in mind, as he sets you up to stave to death in your golden years. http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_careerists_20120723/

  • http://WWW.EdRudy.com Ed Rudy

    Miserable” Mitch McConnell and Stonefaced “Bones” Boehner join Paul Ryan and the Tea Party dominated congressional conservatives in trying to undermine America’s promise of Medicare and Social Security for all working and middle class Americans by saying “NO to reasonable compromise for America’s working and middle-class and a rousing “WE WILL NOT SUPPORT CUTTING TAX LOOPHOLES FOR AMERICA’s BILLIONAIRES & BLOATED CORPORATIONS IN ORDER TO HELP THESE SELFISH AND UN-AMERICAN INTERESTS AVOID PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE OF TAXES!
    Cutting Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid for current and future beneficiaries is NOT acceptable. REMOVE the cap on income for FICA contributions and all problems will be immediately solved without adversely affecting the benefits earned by retired working American families!
    - Ed Rudy – http://WWW.EdRudy.com

  • Karl

    What a thoroughly revolting article. And the gall of this website to call itself ‘Progressive’ ! The Obama apologists and enablers can always find new lows to sink to. The stench of those who condone the actions of this President is overpowering. My parent’s generation HUNG war criminals. Now we elect them to the highest office. Our safety net programs are a precious gift from our ancestors who fought and bled to protect us from the grinding poverty they endured. Now we blithely make excuses for those who offer up the health and financial security of our most vulnerable citizens as a FUCKING TRADING CHIP. The author and some of the posters here should be ashamed!

    • jeff

      “Our safety net programs are a precious gift from our ancestors who fought and bled to protect us from the grinding poverty they endured. ” – So our ancestors fought the revolutionary war for taxpayer provided benefits? Oh wait…too far back. WWI? Still too far back…WWII then? Oh wait…Korea and Vietnam? I’m not sure which war was fought so taxpayers could be forced to fork over their hard earned tax dollars to provide a safety net for those who should have handled their lives on their own. Please cite your source.

      • http://WWW.EdRudy.com Ed Rudy

        Miserable” Mitch McConnell and Stonefaced “Bones” Boehner join Paul Ryan and the Tea Party dominated congressional conservatives in trying to undermine America’s promise of Medicare and Social Security for all working and middle class Americans by saying “NO to reasonable compromise for America’s working and middle-class and a rousing “WE WILL NOT SUPPORT CUTTING TAX LOOPHOLES FOR AMERICA’s BILLIONAIRES & BLOATED CORPORATIONS IN ORDER TO HELP THESE SELFISH AND UN-AMERICAN INTERESTS AVOID PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE OF TAXES!
        Retired hard working American families should not be inhibited in exercising their full, promised, rightful earned Social Security retirement and Medicare benefits when just eliminating the cap on earnings subject to FICA would solve the entire problem!
        - Ed Rudy – http://WWW.EdRudy.com

      • jeff

        Not what I’m asking. I’m asking for the source of the statement put forth that our ancestors died to provide tax payer funded benefits to people. But onto your screed:

        “NO to reasonable compromise for America’s working and middle-class” – Define reasonable . Difficulty Level: Cannot use “pay their fair share” BS line.

        “WE WILL NOT SUPPORT CUTTING TAX LOOPHOLES FOR AMERICA’s BILLIONAIRES” – Ok. I can go with that.

        “& BLOATED CORPORATIONS IN ORDER TO HELP THESE SELFISH AND UN-AMERICAN INTERESTS AVOID PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE OF TAXES!” Define “Fair Share”. What is a fair share? 15%? 20%? 50%? How much of their money do you feel you are entitled to?

        “working American families should not be inhibited in exercising their full, promised, rightful earned Social Security retirement” – And yet they are as they are taxed on that money. As far as “promised” is concerned, you might want to read the SCOTUS ruling on that. Nester v. Fleming. And that is the most current one. There is one before that where the government argued before SCOTUS that promises can be broken at will. You put way too much faith into government for some odd reason.

        “when just eliminating the cap on earnings subject to FICA would solve the entire problem!” Ahh yes..the old “steal it from someone else because they don’t need the money” routine. I love people like you who think someone else should pay for your wants and needs simply because they earned more.

      • http://WWW.EdRudy.com Ed Rudy

        All working Americans MUST pay into FICA, EXCEPT ON THE PORTION THAT SOME FORTUNATE PEOPLE EARN ABOVE $110,000 Per Annum.
        Eliminating that cap would, without causing hardship on any American, solve the problem of fair Social Security and Medicare continuing to be paid to ALL Americans who, through their working lives, EARN THOSE BENEFITS.

      • Jodda

        Jeff? Are you really so brainwashed that you can’t see that what is happening is a MASSIVE transfer of wealth from the bottom up? Just as it has always happened, no one gets wealthy without the theft of worker labor. Yes, there are some who inherit it, after one of their ancestors accrued it from slave labor somewhere in the world. The belief that the poor are lazy, and deserving of their lot is the mark of a sociopath. Many poor people work two and three jobs, and have no time to further their education or their lot in life.

        I’m sorry you had such a rotten childhood/suffered abuse/sustained a head injury, or whatever did this to you, but you have the most narrow, limited view of what’s happening in their world of anyone I’ve encountered lately. You sound like presidential material.

      • Jeff

        “Jeff? Are you really so brainwashed that you can’t see that what is happening is a MASSIVE transfer of wealth from the bottom up?” We call that “commerce”. Wealth will always find a way to the top. The people at the top built the products, designed it, invested in it. It was their blood, sweat, and tears. If you don’t like it, find a niche or a need and fill it.

        :Just as it has always happened, no one gets wealthy without the theft of worker labor. ” – How is it theft of labor? People agreed to the wages. Even me. If I don’t care for it, I negotiate for more. If I can’t get it, then I will go to a job that will pay me what I feel I am worth. That is the problem with the liberal mentality of labor. Not all labor is valuable on the highest side of the coin. A ditch digger is exactly, a ditch digger. They are a dime a dozen. Why would I pay a man’s weight in gold for such a simple skill?

        “The belief that the poor are lazy, and deserving of their lot is the mark of a sociopath.” – Maybe not lazy but they did create the situation they are in, yes?

        “Many poor people work two and three jobs, and have no time to further their education or their lot in life.” – Make the time.

        “I’m sorry you had such a rotten childhood/suffered abuse/sustained a head injury, or whatever did this to you, but you have the most narrow, limited view of what’s happening in their world of anyone I’ve encountered lately.” Newsflash sparky, I have this world more than you. I have seen downtrodden, buried in sand, and I have seen those gilded in gold. I have seen crushed and the soulless who did the crushing. I have seen them dead and alive. You have not. You surround yourself with theory and wishes of “could have and would have” and visions of a just world as seen by you. Reality, on the other hand is very different. Your poor are poor for a reason and it is by their hand. Not yours, not mine. I cannot carry them. I cannot motivate them. I cannot live their lives for them. Nor can you. If they desire better, then they must take that first step and no longer fall prey to the mistakes of youth and impudence.

        ” You sound like presidential material.” – If I was Caesar, trust me, your poor would be servants of the state to pay for their handouts. They will form the front line troops of my legions and earn their keep or face exile. Your death penalty inmates would sport for the arenas. No longer shall they languish in prison for a length of years trying to push off their date with the darkness. They will fight or die in the arenas. The money would go to their victims for recompense.

        Your vaunted government agencies would be reigned in. TSA disbanded. Homeland security dissolved. Justice put back to where it belongs. Elections to be held with public monies not corporate, nor unions. No more campaign contributions. No more protecting the corporations and politicians from justice for their treachery and schemes. No more catering to illegal immigrants/invaders. Serve the Constitution means you serve the people. Protect the people and their rights. Make government the tool of the people. Strike the balance.

        Given the power and the right people, this can be done. What say you?

      • Jeff

        “all working Americans MUST pay into FICA, EXCEPT ON THE PORTION THAT SOME FORTUNATE PEOPLE EARN ABOVE $110,000 Per Annum.” Fortunate? They went to school, worked hard for what they have, and they are fortunate? Granted you got some trust fund babies out, but for the most part, they busted their butts. That’s not fortunate, that’s dedication. You really should try that sometime.

        “Eliminating that cap would, without causing hardship on any American,” – They capped it for a reason because the people who make more won’t have a need for it. Hence the cap. Remove the cap, you’re basically stealing under the guise of “help”.

        “Solve the problem of fair Social Security and Medicare continuing to be paid to ALL Americans who, through their working lives, EARN THOSE BENEFITS.” – Uh huh…well, newsflash sunshine, most of the people in the work force are fairly unskilled, low skill types. So their contribution to the entitlements program is minimal as is. We pay too much out for everything. SS is not a retirement program. It was for supplemental purposes. Might as well give everyone a million bucks upon 65 and let them do as they please.

      • http://[email protected] SLM

        STFU – SS and Medicare are benefits (safety nets) we ALL pay into and and benefit from – they are NOT entitlements that YOU pay into and I enjoy. Stupid POS. And good thing (for now anyway) because Wall Street and the Teapukelicans have stolen our 401k’s and retirement savings. ALL WE HAVE LEFT is the pennies WE saved in SS.

      • Jeff

        “STFU” Perhaps you should STFU because…

        ” – SS and Medicare are benefits (safety nets) we ALL pay into and and benefit from – they are NOT entitlements that YOU pay into and I enjoy. ” You couldn’t be more wrong. I pay into SS so others can get a check. I’m nowhere near 62 so yeah, I’m paying into a program I would rather not pay into.

        “Stupid POS. ” Says the liberal who robs my paycheck every pay period for the greater good.

        “And good thing (for now anyway) because Wall Street and the Teapukelicans have stolen our 401k’s and retirement savings. ”

        They did? Wasn’t Wall Street donating money to the dems? And wasn’t it Corzine that was the liberal money man to bilk a billion or two from his clients? And isn’t Tax Cheat Geithner from GS and running the treasury? And as far as your retirement savings are concerned, your golden boy, Big Ben is the one robbing you via QE.

        “ALL WE HAVE LEFT is the pennies WE saved in SS.” – Who is this “we” BS? You stole from me to get a check because you the person before you stole your money to get a check. SS is a ponzi scheme. Nothing more and nothing less.

      • Jodda

        LOL! Jeff, you libtards remind me so much of Daffy Duck! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcCXnXDiKoQ

      • Jeff

        I’m not a liberal. I have values and standards. Maybe one day if I surrender them, then you can call me that.

    • http://none Leo Seiler

      If President Obama’s *brilliant* strategy is to illustrate to republicans that he is willing to inflict pain upon his base with this unfair budget proposal- shouldn’t the supporters of the President SCREAM out in pain so they can help him with this strategy? Instead this ‘political scientist’ says ‘calm down’? Calming down would defeat the purpose, yes?

      • Jeff

        “If President Obama’s *brilliant* strategy is to illustrate to republicans that he is willing to inflict pain upon his base with this unfair budget proposal- shouldn’t the supporters of the President SCREAM out in pain so they can help him with this strategy? Instead this ‘political scientist’ says ‘calm down’? Calming down would defeat the purpose, yes?” – Judge Judy is on. Then Oprah. MTV Cribs, followed by American Idol. Where will they find the time?

    • Shainzona

      Best comment I’ve read all day. This article is revolting – in fact, it is vomit-inducing. Obama is so “brilliant” it makes me sick.

  • RuaidhriS

    Chickie, don’t waste your time, and ours, arguing with people that share the same opinion as you. From her comment, Pearl does not appear to support Republicans or misunderstand the roles of the Executive and Legislative branches of the federal government. It’s you that failed to understand her angst. And, yes, it is the congress that’s supposed to write the laws, establish a budget and authorize the dollars. But, in practice it’s been the President that has presented the administrations budget “request” to Congress for acceptance or rejection in whole or in part. Now, the focus of the immediate article is that President Obama offered chained CPI to (in one way or the other) make the Republicans look bad. In other words, it was purely a political move not intended to actually fly. Well, even if true, that excuse doesn’t assuage my anger. I voted for Barack Obama in 2008 and in 2012. I consider myself a strong and proud Liberal. Regardless, I’m still upset with President Obama. It’s the principle. You don’t offer something you’re not willing to give. I wrote President Obama and my representative both in the Senate and House several times asking them to protect Social Security and Medicare. If what the article reports is true then the President played a dangerous game that was a lose/lose for the American people. If his offer wasn’t serious, then the best that could be said is that he’s using the suffering of the sequester as a tool to benefit the Democrats by making the Republicans look bad. That could backfire. Playing games with our nations future is a bad move in my book. Will I drop my general support for the President. No, of course, I won’t. But, I will be aware that we don’t always agree and that I will voice my opinion when we don’t.

  • Smart Woman

    The President has tried to get the Republicans and SOME Democrats to do SOMETHING for over 4 years. When I read this article I believe he is baiting the hook. How do we “the people” allow this to go on. I am voting against my Senators and Representives in 2014 and would like to withold their salary until we come to a complete end to all this BS.

  • Terrie Watkins

    This artaicle summarizes my own thoughts. The President has put “Entitlements” on the table as a bargaining tool. He has NOT recommended increasing the retirement age, cutting current payouts, or some of the more outrageous suggestions to reduce the deficit. I totally agree the left wing reaction is knee-jerk – “Don’t touch Social Security”. As a retiree on SS, I don’t relish the idea of any cuts. BUT something’s got to give, and we all have to make an effort. I am willing to make a sacrifice if it helps achieve a workable budget, and I support the President’s efforts to move the process forward.

  • Hunter

    We’ve seen Obama play this kind of “chess” before. He tried it in 2009, and in 2010 so many liberals stayed home in disgust that the GOP got their hands on the statehouses that determined congressional districts, thus cementing their ability to hold a majority of legislative seats with a minority of votes. This kind of chess we don’t need. We need someone to hold on to the highest principles and stick with them, to elevate the needs of working people over the masters of finance. FDR wasn’t the most popular president ever for no reason. He “welcomed the hatred” of the ruling class and passed the basis of the safety net that the right has been chipping away at since Reagan.

    • Kathy

      Exactly. He will end up causing a bunch of Democrats to stay home and we will end up with more Republicans in Congress in 2014. Don’t piss off the base, Barack.

  • Joseph Bristol

    I think the Republicans are on to Obama’s game or tactic, If it is a tactic, just like he play this game with the sequester , and look what happen. Sen. Graham has all ready said he like’s Obama’s budget. I think the Republicans are going to go for the chain CPI. If he piss off his base, they are not going to turn out in 2014.

  • Howard Boyer

    BS!!!! This is Smoke and Mirrors. Obama signed the 2012 NDAA. The worst ATTACK on the Constitution and Bill of Rights in USA history. This man owes the 1% that allowed him to run. He will attack any and all social programs the 1% order him to.

  • mark schmidt

    This is bullshit. Obama is barely a moderate, let alone a “liberal”. He is hoping to get something from the GOP despite the last 4 years of anti-American activity on their part. They will not suddenly come around and do something right for our country at this late date. I understand he has to appear active. I don’t understand why – given the GOP will NEVER go along with anything he proposes – he even tries to move further right to attempt to get their approval.

    I was happy he got re-elected. I sent money and voted for him. I’m already disgusted with him and it’s only April.

    mark

  • Bishop Andrew Gerales Gentry

    When President Obama was elected for his first term he had a majority in the Senate and in the House. He had a unique opportunity to make the change he had promised but what happened. Mr Obama decides that he wants Republican participation even though they had promised that they would not give him the time of day and that their only objective was to deny him a second term!
    He appoints several mediocre and conservative Democrats to “work” with these Republicans avian seeking a “centrist” solution to his health care programme. In addition he does the same thing with his pauper’s stimulus bill.
    So what did we the American people get for his appeasing of the far right and his fundamental belief in “centrist” government. Well first we get a watered down version of a “health care” law that makes millions for the insurance companies. Next we get almost no Federal construction and jobs thereto for a quickly deteriorating infrastructure.
    The robber barons of Wall Street make out like the bandits they are even to the point of making millions in bonuses. BP and other oil companies and speculators make so much profit that it is immoral becuase the centrist policies of the Administration allow them to do so. But everyone else is hurting.
    For all the President’s centrist overtures and appeasements we get a Tea Billie Majority in the House and in enumerable state legislatures replete with voter suppression and other blatantly unconstitutional measures.
    Now as if the President has not given away enough already we have a Democratic Administration, a gutless Majority “leader” in the Senate willing to begin the dismantling of the social net FDR and his Democrats began! Typical of the White House spin this is done in the name of compromise and we are told “not to worry”!

    • Mel Huan Sr

      @Bishop Andrew Gerales Gentry says: That he has not been paying attention. Obama had a fillbuster proof Senate for 133 days, and some of that they were not in session. Despite the worst the right could do, he has accomplished quite a bit. http://pleasecutthecrap.typepad.com/main/what-has-obama-done-since-january-20-2009.html My favorite..
      Or this one http://mscyprah.newsvine.com/_news/2012/09/02/13618223-a-long-list-of-president-obamas-accomplishments-with-citations

    • http://[email protected] Dolores Donigan

      @ Bishop Gentry – You are seeing thru the dark accurately…much damage ahead. So flippin sick of spin and endless finger-pointing. High stakes gambling continues…private club – and we’re not in it!!

  • Chris Z

    I couldnt disgaree more ! Obama isnt playing some grand strategy here ! His Proposal for cutting Social Security and Medicare reflect his OWN Beliefs and his Own Disres.

    He has consistently gone after our benefist since he got into Office. Lets remember it was OBAMA who first brought Social Security into play back during the December 2010 “deal” with the GOP when he made it part of thos negotiations. And Today there was No Republican saying anything about cutting Social Security with the Chained CPI until Obama brought it up. The Chained CPI wasnt even in the GOP’s last budget that Ryan contrived against America for crying out loud.

    Obama LIED in 2008 when he stated in Public he would NOT Cut Social Security or Medicare Now he is doing exactly that.

    I have negoptiated a few deals in my day and not once did I ever start out my negotiations when the other side wanted say a Wage Cut by offering up a Wage Cut before they did.

  • donna drake

    EITHER AY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE GET THE SHORT END OF THE STICK!

  • Jason

    His “strategy” failed to paint the republicans as radical and win back the House last election.

  • Joan M. Thomas

    I totally agree with what the previous post have said – Mark, Andrew, Chris, Donna and Jason have said. Obama has no negotiating skills. His watered down health care bill, lowering payroll taxes for 2 years and his pandering to the right are all evidence that his strategy has failed. Why does the 47% those who most need the SS that they paid for their entire work life now have to pay for those who are not paying their fair share. Chained CPI should never have been even suggested. Lets see what happens in 2014. Where was the “strategy” in 2010 when those far righters took over

  • http://www.rpeli.com ryan

    Since when is all that matters the next election? What about actually getting things done while your in office? I blame the Republicans, but the government does suck these days.

  • http://Facebook Carol Wherrett

    So hope this is true!

  • http://www.scvyoungdems.org Minerva Leah Hoover

    Since you seem to be so accomodating of his chess moves, why didn’t he inform the members of OFA what this ploy was about. I’m reading this from you, whom I happened to run into through a facebook friend? The California Dmeocratic Party Conference is this weekend. I hope they address this issue openly with the state delegates . . .

  • http://www.scvyoungdems.org Minerva Leah Hoover

    Since you seem to be so accomodating of his chess moves, why didn’t he inform the members of OFA what this ploy was about. I’m reading this from you, whom I happened to run into through a facebook friend? The California Dmeocratic Party Conference is this weekend. I hope they address this issue openly with the state delegates . . .
    This is comment is not for public viewing.

  • Harvey Kahler

    This is as much BS as the so-called payroll tax reduction which reduced contributions to Social Security and weakening its long-term solvency. Now that that ended with sequestration, he proposes cutting benefits, slowly at first; but increasing the difference with the increasing cost of living for us. I’m struggling already. Who says Republicans won’t accept the deal to start dismantling Social Security? A tax rate increase is multiplication by zero and will have little if any affect on the 2%.

  • Jodda

    There is no difference between the two arms of the corporate-owned war party. I fled the dems under Clinton’s first term, when he gutted welfare, bombed several countries, signed NAFTA, and starved 500,000 Iraqi children to death. I have voted Green ever since, and have done so with a clear conscience. I refuse to vote for the ‘lesser evil’. It’s time for a massive exodus from the fascist party (both wings) . These people are NOT on your side. Do NOT give them your vote. They do nothing but work for the 1%.

  • Tom Baxter

    As long as Obama is willing to protect Banksters, Bush’s and his war criminal torturers, and murderers from prosecution. Supports Israel’s continued ethnic cleansing of Palestine at the UN and unlimited weapons of war. Continues the US war on Syria. Iran, Yemen, Pakistan and Afghanistan until they accept viceroy rule or societal destruction, ala Iraq and Libya, he has my vote.

  • Kurt Sperry

    So. He’s proposing politically unpopular ideas he doesn’t personally support that will do real harm to vulnerable elderly people as some sort of eleventieth dimensional political chess move? By performing oral sex on the Third Rail of 20th century Democratic politics, even though there is no support among the electorate–of either party– for so doing? This is almost the diametric opposite of both simple or shrewd. No. This will not only cost him huge politically, but will cost the Democratic Party huge in the 2014 mid-terms. He could have put the Republicans in a far worse position by proposing to remove the cap which would have funded SS out as far as projections can be made and which is a move supported by a majority of both Democrat and Republican voters when polled. But that would have raised taxes on rich people–and rich people are his only actual constituents. The only truth that fits the large and growing set of facts is that Obama is a regressive GWB/Reagan Republican who can’t say no to billionaires who fooled people–myself included–into supporting him by portraying himself as something other than what he actually is. And he will do far more actual damage than a Republican President would because there is no organized political opposition on the left within the system to his essentially Republican policies. He gets a free pass for doing the exact same stuff people would be up in arms about if Bush or Romney were doing them because he’s a Democrat, he’s black and because his family is photogenic.

  • Rury

    You are wrong Kurt Sperry!
    Obama tried putting Republicans in a tough position over the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy when tried to raise taxes on the wealthy and Republicans refused to budge.
    They’re THAT stubborn and they hate him because he is black.
    An voters STILL left them in charge of the House.
    A lot of old people vote GOP.
    Maybe if Grandma ad Grandpa get damn hungry enough they will stop voting for the Republicans who are trying to kill the.

    • Linda

      Rury, “Maybe if Grandma and Grandpa get damn hungry enough they will stop voting for the Republicans…” Really? You ass! Good thing you’re probably just an average run-of-the-mill dunce and not a Democratic policy adviser. Let me share my POV as a very ACTIVE Democrat for over 40 years: it is Obama that is the one proposing to cut SS and other social benefits after promising not to and I will NOT support him or any other supposed Dem who votes to do that. PERIOD. And, no, I’m not dumb enough to vote for a Republican. If there isn’t a decent candidate, I write someone in. But, I’m not supporting anyone who lies to and then sells out the middle class and poor in such a BIG way.

  • Adam

    There is ONE problem here: Republicans COULD use their message machine to continue to stoke the liberal anger, long enough to keep them out of the voting both or to get them to “vote third party” in frustration. That worked hands down in 2010, and it partially worked in 2012. Compared to 2008, Obama got LESS overall votes in 2012, while the Republican votes for President saw a GAIN. That is because of people not voting or “voting third party, ALL from the “otherwise would vote Democrat” side.

  • http://forwardprogressive.com Gloria Mounkes-Viau

    Mr President ; My son died on 12-10-2010,He was a Desert Storm Veteran.. I got a letter from the V A ststing He didn’t quilify for full burial benifits.. I gave My only Son to the military & I lost him His name is SRA. JOHN ROBERT MOUNKES JR, Case # 455712675…. I’m a Grieving Mother and I need HELP…My son is Gone and the American Gov DOESN’T give a Dammm.. He SERVED Show HIM some R E S P E C T ! ! !

  • http://www.facebook.com/mike.sopp Mike Mark Sopp

    i think this is accurate, and unfortunately, even though i am a democrat, the first thing that comes to mind is this is just going to further the divide between the two.

  • http://www.facebook.com/larry.chavez.31 Larry Chavez

    Actually, we need to keep up our guard up on
    both sides, of the isle. We know that the policing of both sides is
    necessary to insure that the government keeps our interest at the top of
    their priority list. I am watching the discourse in Washington,
    and I am not calmed by the loss of Social Security, which is not enough
    to keep me going in my later years. Corporate America has already
    destroyed the concept of pensions, the 401K joke, the threat of changing
    the age for SS! So yes, maybe I am a little quick on the trigger,
    after all it is my life we are talking about!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/yshuaben.moshe Yshuaben Moshe

    And all of the evidence is that Obama is a Conservative democrat that really doesn’t like these programs. He’s made cuts in both of them, recently. So, to try spinning this is just not logically correct. The correct attitude is to be infuriated that Obama and other Dems would even consider such a proposal. Remember, Democrats hold 2/3rds of the Working Government. They don’t need to pander any more to the right, which they have been since that god-infuriating Clintoon was POTUS. Go ahead and give the store away, though. Who cares about the elderly and impoverished, right? I mean, its not like Rural areas don’t rely on this type of subsidy to survive or anything, do they (insert random sarcasm face here)?
    Idiots all of you. Its like accepting workfare by Clintoon.

  • iamemen

    I think Obama has very lame and sold out advisers, but those are his peers. It’s the blob, the ambitious politicos who are angling for the K street or Wall Street, or “Defence” job. They are the occupiers of the USA and they are too big to fail, because all the government watchdogs are owned. Where is the passionate humanist who stands up for social programs in the face of the Koch beast? Record highs on Wall Street? Record bummers for the poor. No one is fooled.

  • jdecp1

    IF ANYTHING . . . LET’S “CUT” . . . THE NONSENSE!!

    Some commentators on this web page seem to believe that Mr. Obama is
    just very cleverly trying to “trap” or somehow “unmask” the GOP with his
    budget proposal to cut Social Security and Medicare. “But,” they say,
    “Mr. Obama knows that the GOP will never accept raising taxes on the
    wealthy, as a quid pro quo, so the safety-net cuts aren’t real after
    all,” goes this fanciful scenario.

    If this were true, how does one justify needlessly threatening and “playing with” widows, orphans, seniors and the disabled with such a disingenuous offer?

    Realistically speaking, how does it make ANY sense whatsoever for the
    president of the United States to come off looking to the world like a
    trickster who isn’t bargaining “in good faith”?

    And what would those offered cuts really mean if the GOP were to strategically accept some tax hikes on the wealthy to gain political credibility and turn registered Democrats and independent voters, alike, against Dems in
    2014 for voting to shred the safety net?

    Just think about this: if the GOP accepts some tax increases, then how can Mr. Obama pull the “gambit” of safety-net cuts “off the table,” without blowing his political credibility and looking like a welsher and an incompetent?

    When understood in this way, we can see how this imaginary scenario
    that Mr. Obama is just being strategically clever by offering safety-net
    cuts is simply pure nonsense.

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