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There’s One Simple Reason Why It’s Pointless to Try to Reason with a Trump Supporter

I’m sure everyone reading this has experienced the painful task of trying to debate and/or reason with a supporter of Donald Trump at some point or another. It’s an experience that often leaves me feeling as if I’ve just spoken with someone who’s either been brainwashed by a cult or is legitimately crazy. In all my years debating politics with my Republican counterparts, I’ve never experienced anything quite like dealing with people who can literally watch a video of Trump saying or doing something — then still deny that it’s true.



But it’s not just their near complete denial of reality that’s so mind-boggling. The hypocrisy of many of these folks is absolutely astounding. People who were chanting “lock her up!” because Hillary Clinton used a private email server over four years ago don’t seem remotely bothered by the fact that Russia attacked the United States in a direct effort to undermine our democracy and help elect Vladimir Putin’s favorite candidate. The same candidate who’s praised this Russian tyrant throughout his campaign, choosing to attack and discredit our own intelligence officials instead of condemning an enemy who ordered an attack against this country.

It’s just astonishing to see millions of people believe a woman who was cleared by the FBI should be in prison because of a damn email server she used over four years ago, while they make excuses for a man who may have very well committed treason in his run to the White House — an election he only won because of this Russian cyber attack.

However, that’s not even the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the seemingly endless list of things Trump supporters deny, overlook or make excuses for when it comes to Donald Trump that they would never let a Democrat get away with.

Just imagine if a Democrat ran for president as someone who:

  • Had at least one affair, was on their third marriage, and had 5 kids from three different spouses.
  • Belittled POWs, saying that they’re not heroes, because they like people who weren’t captured.
  • Was caught lying about how much money they had claimed to raise for veterans.
  • Wouldn’t release their tax returns.
  • Went nearly 20 years without paying any income tax.
  • Was caught on video admitting to being a sexual predator.
  • Talked about the size of their penis during a debate.
  • Constantly had outbursts on Twitter like a petulant child.
  • Mocked a reporter with disabilities.
  • Defended and praised Vladimir Putin.
  • Attacked the credibility of U.S. intelligence agencies and spies.
  • Refused to condemn an enemy who attacked us.

The list goes on and on.

But when you get right down to it, there’s a very simple reason why trying to reason with Trump supporters is pointless: Because they simply don’t care. 



If he lies, they’ll reject any source that debunks him. If he contradicts himself, they’ll make excuses for his contradiction. If he sells them something completely ridiculous (such as asking the taxpayers to pay for his wall, claiming Mexico will “pay for it later”), they’ll blindly believe that ridiculous scam without thinking twice.

They. Simply. Don’t. Care. 

These people have been so indoctrinated by Fox News and right-wing blogs replete with conspiracy theorists and propaganda that most of them would really rather elect a puppet of Putin than a Democrat. Many of them honestly believe that people like Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are worse than someone like Vladimir Putin.

They don’t care if Trump had to lie, cheat, or even get help from the Russian government to win — which is the only reason why he barely won — just as long as he won.

It’s a sad time in this country. We’re dealing with millions of people who, instead of being supporters of a political party, are really nothing more than brainwashed members of the largest cult in human history. People who reject facts, science and indisputable reality because none of those things tell them what they’ve been indoctrinated to believe.

That’s why it’s impossible to reason with them — because you’re not dealing with people who possess the ability to be reasonable.

Feel free to hit me up on Twitter or Facebook and let me know what you think.




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Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • shmooney

    I have 3 siblings that voted for t-rump. When I would tell them things he has said, they wouldn’t believe me. I would show them proof but still nothing. I can’t fix stupid but it pisses me off that they are this stupid. It’s hard to believe we grew up in the same family. Luckily, I have a brother, and my 90-year-old dad who have a brain and uses it .

    • Robin

      I, too, have a Trumpster family member. I think this article is spot on. I always try to put myself in their shoes, to think if I’ve ever supported a candidate through a scandal. And, John Edwards comes to mind; it was the end of his political career when he was outed for an affair on his cancer-striken wife. He lost so many supporters, including me. Why doesn’t this happen with Trump? I have to believe it’s the brain-washing.

      • Fuse

        Like Bill Clinton comes to mind as he was caught in the act pole-pounding the VP’s Daughter On the Oval Desk. Didn’t hear about that? Must’ve been the brainwashing. Read his book “Crisis of Character”. Gary Byrnes.

    • Fuse

      That’s because they don’t care what Trump Said, they’ve Seen too much of what the Clintons and Obamas have DONE.

      • shmooney

        What would that be Fuse? Please elaborate. I’ll wait.

      • Fuse

        Not enough room here for half the lies, deceit, scandals, etc. from the Clintons and Obamas, where have you been?

      • shmooney

        Yeah, you have nothing. Piss off.

  • Brian

    Same libelous, insulting bull as always. Word for word repeating what Republicans said when the Muslim coward was elected. Try harder, Jews.

    • MegaSolipsist

      If you don’t want liberals to insult you, you probably shouldn’t immediately jump into the racist, bigoted rhetoric at the first opportunity. Just sayin’.

    • Paul Julian Gould

      Well, this Jew and honorably served Army veteran tells you to take your asinine bigotry and stupidity and shove it up your ass, troll.

      And I don’t apologize for insulting you… You should be glad I didn’t voice what truly is going through my head.

      • Paul Julian Gould

        And, you should be glad, rather than raging… you fools are about to get everything you think you wanted…

        No one I know (apart from rightwing trolls) throughout the past 8 years ever considered Pres. Obama as “Messiah.”

        You’ve got big spokesbots out there speaking for you, though, that in all seriousness, call Mr. Trump “God’s Chosen.”

        Good luck with that… the interpretation of God that you guys seem to like has a dark and twisted sense of humor.

        But, Baruch ha-Shem (yep… nasty Hebrew… you’re welcome), what we are about to have is what you guys think you wanted…

        Wonder if you’re going to be quite as happy in the having, as the wanting in your head has been…

    • Paul Julian Gould

      And, you should be glad, rather than raging… you fools are about to get everything you think you wanted…

      No one I know (apart from rightwing trolls) throughout the past 8 years ever considered Pres. Obama as “Messiah.”

      You’ve got big spokesbots out there speaking for you, though, that in all seriousness, call Mr. Trump “God’s Chosen.”

      Good luck with that… the interpretation of God that you guys seem to like has a dark and twisted sense of humor.

      But, Baruch ha-Shem (yep… nasty Hebrew… you’re welcome), what we are about to have is what you guys think you wanted…

      Wonder if you’re going to be quite as ha

      • Paul Julian Gould

        For myself, alone, I’d like to be in the same location as you, with no violence, but laugh in your Nazi face as I shout, “Mazel tov, asshole!”

        Just sayin’

    • Joanne Picardi O’Brien

      Just ignore trolls. Not worth anyone’s time.

  • Gayle Gordon

    I’m unable to comment on your Facebook posts for some reason. This cult idea is scary, but too true.

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  • kinda like seeing all of hillaries email and still thinking shes the one being attacked. cant reason with that either. this mentality is not just them. its anyone on either extreme ofcrither side. liberals simply dont care about hillaries crimes yet, TRUMP!!!

  • Teal Postula

    Fox,Fox, Fox….Rupert Murdoch. the hidden hand that pulls the levers of too much of the American consciousness

    • Tad_Kimball

      Like the moron Fuse?

  • anne reilly

    I am in complete agreement with everything you said.

  • Dennis Barbara Jump

    Absolutely agree!!

  • Gayla Gonsells

    Wow, you hit them right on the head. It is mind boggling. My explanation is “THEY DRANK THE KOOL AID. Also stupidity gets us in a situation, pride keeps you there.