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Republicans Outraged Over President Obama and Gettysburg Really Won’t Like Reading This

gettysburgI love how the right-wing media blatantly treats conservative voters like idiots, knowing that they’ll eat it right up.  See, while liberals like myself often call Republicans ignorant, the right-wing media seems to feel the same way.  How else could they deliberately create “outrage” over events they know to be completely inaccurate?

Because they know conservative voters are just dumb enough to fall for it.  The right-wing media knows that they can simply make up almost anything they want, “report” it to the masses of conservatives just itching to find something new to hate President Obama for, and Republican voters will believe practically anything they say.

A few months ago it was “Umbrellagate” that caused conservatives to spit their venom toward the president.  Then more recently it was Michelle Obama encouraging children to drink more water that seemed to offend conservatives to their very core.  Now it’s President Obama not going to the 150th anniversary of the Gettysburg Address, and during his reading of that very same Gettysburg Address he didn’t utter the words “under God.”

First, let’s address his lack of attendance on the 150th anniversary of Gettysburg.  Here’s a fun fact for conservatives: No president since William Howard Taft, who went in 1909, has attended Gettysburg on its anniversary.  Not even their hero Ronald Reagan.  Who, by the way, never visited Gettysburg while he was president.

Aww, too bad.  So much for that pointless conspiracy the right-wing media blatantly made up and millions of ignorant conservatives took off and ran with.

Then on to an issue many conservatives have throw an even bigger fit about — President Obama reading the Gettysburg Address without saying the words “under God.”

It’s true, in Lincoln’s speech he did say the words, “under God.”  But they weren’t actually written in the original speech — which is what was given to President Obama by Civil War scholar Ken Burns.  Burns gave him a version of the speech called a “Nicolay Copy.”  A “Nicolay Copy” is in reference to John Nicolay, the White House staffer who preserved the speech.

Darn, strike two for made up right-wing conspiracies.

But they are a perfect 2-0 in this for proving that they are absolutely terrible at knowing United States history.

Oh, and just for good measure, our Pledge of Allegiance originally never contained the words “one nation under God” either.  In fact, our pledge was written by a Christian socialist and the words “under God” weren’t added until 1954.

This “outrage” has just been another perfect example of conservatives manufacturing fake stories to use in a pathetic attempt to attack President Obama.  Just more of the same from the people whose careers depend on the abject stupidity of the average conservative.

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Allen Clifton is from the Dallas-Fort Worth area and has a degree in Political Science. He is a co-founder of Forward Progressives, and author of the popular Right Off A Cliff column. He is also the founder of the Right Off A Cliff facebook page, on which he routinely voices his opinions and stirs the pot for the Progressive movement. Follow Allen on Twitter as well, @Allen_Clifton.

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  • Bine646

    Maybe the media learned that tactic from Obama- guy spews lies in hopes that people will believe him- majority did and thats how he got elected twice- ahhh ignorance. As for this Gettysburg address, I believe the most outrage came from Gettysburg itself- he is the first president too skip. He is also the first black president, would of been important to go and highlight that important day- but im sure Obama had more important things to do- like play golf

    • truth

      did you actually read the article? no president in over a hundred years has ever gone. so tell me how is he the first to skip? have we not had a president since 1909?

      • MadAveGuy

        Bine, you’re misquoting lemmecomplain. What he said was “he is the first president too skip”. All he’s saying is that there is more skip in our president than necessary. Then again, if he’s skipping (rope, with Sasha and Malia, one might guess), then he may not be out playing golf.

      • http://www.vailcowboy.com/ vailcoloradocowboy

        Please, check your facts regarding days or hours of Presidential leisure of all modern administrations.

    • Neil

      Bine…you’re an idiot.

      • regressive rightwing trash

        donn beeee dissin my negga dogg :)

      • Bine646

        Yup, got one thing wrong- must be an idiot. Easy to say behind a computer. If I am wrong about one thing and am classified an idiot- what do you call Obama- who has been wrong about alot of things? dont worry ill wait. Ohh yeah one more thing- CNN reports 24 out of the last 28 presidents have gone? Soooo

    • wawoo

      Let me see, working backwards here.”‘the first President to skip..” As the article notes , sorta true, since President Taft in 1909 was the last to attend a Gettysburg memorial service . So every Predident from Wilson to Obama has not attended a Gettyburg memorial . As to the lies part, Politifact which does bend over backward to appease conservatives, has President Obama’s remarks at a slightly over 70% to the true side of the scale. Remarkably or maybe not, no major Republican Conservative is in plus territory. Sure, i wish the President’s rating were over 85% but never the less he still tries to convey the truth as he sees it . And no, the President was elected twice because he was the clearly superior choice.

      • Bine646

        1) i was wrong about the first president to skip thing i think- misread it here but not on CNN where it says 24 out of the last 28 presidents have gone or the gettyburg times who says the only president to skip has been Clinton. Wilson was definitely there bc he gave a speech on the 50th anniversary (even tho he tried to skip) Roosevelt at the 75th and Kennedy was at the 100th. 2) 3 types of lies in this world, lies, damn lies and statistics. That being said, that would mean Obama has lied about 30% of the things- some of those being very big and costly to Americans- ie- healthcare. He continues to lie about this subject even as it keeps being shown he knew all along the issues with not only the rollout but also insurance companies potentially dropping people. People defend him, make excuses but in a reality he did it so he would be elected- he is no better than any other politician. 3) getting back to Gettysburg- Obama skipped bc of a luncheon with the wallstreet journal at the 4seasons? I can see why he could not reschedule this- too important. However i just find it very bizarre that a man who announced his candidacy outside of Lincolns law office, swore into office on Lincolns bible, went out of his way to take Lincolns route from Philly to Dc for the inauguration- couldnt travel the 60 miles from Dc to Gettysburg to commemorate the 150 yr anniversary of a man who he has tied himself with over the years. Its just very very weird

      • wawoo

        You conflate the aniverssary of the Battle of Gettysburg, July 1-3 1863 with the anniverssary of Lincoln’s speech, November 19, 1863. There is a post on this thread that does have the proper attribution of Presidential attendance at memorials for the two different events. I suspect part of the reason no President other than Taft has chosen to be at a Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address Memorial is the rather obvious how can one approach the majesty of Lincoln’s speech in any way? And no, President Obama did not lie outright, he choose to use a simple message rather than a sophisticated one about the effects of the PPACA on health insurance policies for individuals. How many have died from the consequences of President Obama’s “lie?” Oh none. And millions will have better health insurance than they had before and millions more will have health insurance period. The combination of lapse and drop rate is no different than it was the differance being that much better policies are taking the place of shell policies that offered no real benefits. With the Republican “alternative” there would still be the same lapse and drop rate and no opportunity for maost to get replacement insurance.

      • Bine646

        How can you say we will have better health insurance when it hasnt even fully taken effect? Its better insurance bc a lying politician told you so? Some people are ok with making decisions for themselves, especially when it comes to their health, rather than relying on the government to do it for you. As for the consequences- those are still be seen. However, Obamas promises are unsustainable as we are seeing with food assistance- cuts are taking food away from families bc the percentage enrolled has increased dramatically over the last 5 years. That can lead to death no? As for this insurance- 500k have enrolled in medicaid/care- 22k have enrolled in Obamacare- how is that going to be sustainable?

        As for attending, Kennedy was there on the 100th- didnt give a speech but he didnt need too. Wilson, it seems, was forced to attend and give a speech.

      • wawoo

        Kennedy was assasinated on November 22, 1963. He was not in Gettysburg on November 19, 1963. Again, you conflate the battle anniversary with the Gettysburg Address anniversary. As to the “food assistence’ presumable you mean SNAP, aka “Food Stamps.” The venal Tea Party dominated House is the source for that misery being imposed on those Republican’s clearly hate, regular folk that have had misfortune in their lives.
        PPACA/Obamacare will work out much to the chagrin of the current iteration of the Republican Party which of course feircely opposed Social Security and Medicare.
        Almost 1.5 million more votes were cast for Democrats in House races in 2012. Without egregious gerrymandering with Pennsylvannia being the worst example the Democrats would hold a narrow edge in the House of Representatives. Yes there was gerrymandering to Democrats advantage as well but with the great majority od State legislatures and Governors being Republican the net effect of gerrymandering was much to the Republican advantage.
        President Obama recieved 4.5 million more votes than Romney with the Republican campaign consisting of repeal Obamacare day one and shouting Benghazi!Benghazi! at every turn.
        In the Senate Democratic candidates recieved in aggregate 8 million more votes than their Republican opponents.

      • Bine646

        The point is- these presidents were present or gave speeches at Gettysburg on specific anniversaries- they did not skip these historic days- whether that be memorial day or the anniversary of Lincolns famous speech.

        You can blame this “food crisis” on the house republicans- but as it has been shown many of times- they are not in control and many of their bills do not clear the senate. Democrats have been in control since 2008- since then we have seen an increase in people enrolled in govt programs, a decrease in wealth and an increase in debt. We have been plagued by trillion dollar deficits until this year- just over 600 billion (still more than any number Bush put up). You can give me numbers about the number of votes- that shows how many are disillusioned and were tricked. Look at Obamas approval rating- 40%. Wowwww.

        Numbers you cant refute- his approval rating, his job numbers, his failures with green energy, his failure with the healthcare launch and millions wasted on mismanagement, numbers enrolled in govt programs like food stamps and medicaid/care

    • Can’tStandTheIdocyAnymore

      Did you even read the article? No President has attended since 1909 not even Reagan. You are one of the people referenced in the article a close minded conservative that will believe whatever lies Faux News tells as long as it make President Obama look bad.

      • Bine646

        Love the Faux news- never gets old reading that hahaha, its like a repeat for some people- automatically what they go for, amazing. CNN is reporting 24 out of the last 28 presidents have attended- Gettyburg Times says everyone but Clinton has attended- this is for sure- Wilson was at the 50th, Roosevelt at the 75th and Kennedy at the 100th. As for making Obama look bad- he did that himself. A man who announced his candidacy outside of Lincolns law office in Illinois, sworn into office on Lincolns Bible, went out of his way to take Lincolns route from Philly to Dc for the inauguration couldnt travel the 60 miles to Gettysburg bc he had a luncheon at the 4season with the wall street journal- wowwwwwwww

    • DCKeene

      Wow…nice way to read an article and comment on it (sarcasm for you, you know, being slow and all)

      • regressive rightwing trash

        slow???? a tortoise covered in epoxy and caramel upwards navigating an “WD 40″ stainless steel flagpole in a Canadian February morning would be quicker,,,,,,, and more intellectual

      • Bine646

        Yes being incorrect about one thing makes you slow- is that how you feel when you make a mistake. Do you say that to others around you when they make an error? Scream that at your kids?I did not read this article saying Taft was the last to go bc Wilson went on the 50th, Roosevelt on the 75th and Kennedy on the 100th. CNN is reporting 24 out of the last 28 president have attended. Does that change the fact that Obama blew off a 150 yr commemoration bc he had a luncheon with the wall street journal at the 4seasons?

      • DCKeene

        You weren’t incorrect, you just obviously didn’t read the article before commenting. Reactionary comments on articles annoys the sh*t out of me. I have done the same myself, but force myself to read the entire article I want to comment on before doing so.

      • Bine646

        So i should continue to read an opinionated piece filled with misinformation and only comment with the knowledge I just received- no way. I read the article, no need to act like Taft was the last to go to Gettysburg bc he wasnt. Also, again, does that change the fact that Obama skipped bc of a luncheon at the 4seasons with the wall street journal?

    • Gary Smith

      You are such a colossal moron. You illustrate the point of the article perfectly: that a large percentage of conservative supporters are know-nothing, reactionary jackasses who buy every little morsel of the disinformation pushed onto them by the right wing noise machine hook line and sinker without making even the most feeble attempt to verify its accuracy.

      Congratulations: you are the living embodiment of a negative stereotype.

      • Bine646

        I was wrong about one thing- have you ever been? Here is something im not wrong about- CNN reports 24 out of the last 28 presidents have attended- Wilson at the 50th, Roosevelt at the 75th and Kennedy at the 100th. Obama skipped bc of a luncheon with the wallstreet journal at the 4seasons to discuss the economy? Kinda weird seeing as this man has associated himself with Lincoln since he announced his candidacy outside of his law office in springfield, sworn into office on Lincolns bible and went out of his way to take Lincolns route from Philly to Dc for the inauguration- but now the 60 miles to gettysburg is too inconvenient- even on the 150 yr anniversary of speech which paved the way for not only him but many others aswell- righttttt.

      • Gary Smith

        No, you were not just “wrong about one thing”, you were wrong in every little frickin’ detail of what you said, and don’t try to deflect attention from it. Your wrongness is so dense that it should have an event horizon, beyond which not even light can escape its overwhelming implacable pull.

        And yet, even after your ignorant idiocy is pointed out and proven to you, here you are — ever the clue-bereft loudmouth — still trying to get angry over the fact that the black man isn’t doing something that no president in a century has done. And just when I thought your stupidity couldn’t get any worse …

        Bravo, slappy; you are the modern avatar of Dolticus, the Roman god of dunderheaded simpletons.

      • Bine646

        wait wait wait- proven by who allen clifton bahahahahahahahaha- taking his work for fact huh. even after you were just shown wilson gave a speech (after taft) kennedy attended (after taft) and even roosevelt. Amazinnggggggg

      • Gary Smith

        But not, my dear uninformed whackdoodle, on the FUCKING ANNIVERSARY of the Gettysburg Address, which is the entire reason that the assbags at FauxNoise have been trying to stir up controversy about this eminently non-controversial non-event.

        And your witless douchebaggery continues to accumulate, like snow in Winnipeg.

      • Bine646

        Easy with the fauxnoise comments dbag- i got my information from CNN and Gettysburg itself- but keep believing your buttbuddy allen clifton wholeheartedly queerbate. So noncontroversial why you getting so upset hahahaha.

        PS the rockets suck, harden is a bum and howard is a clown

      • Gary Smith

        Ah yes, go straight for the gay slurs; so inclusive and “big tent” of you, nitwit.

        Go ahead and post your sources.

        And the assbags at FauxNoise are the ones trying to generate a scandal where none exists for the benefit of credulous jackasses such as yourself. And you are proof of concept of their success as misleading mouthbreathing imbeciles from coast to coast. Again, as they have done for a decade or more. When will you fucktards ever learn?

        And why did I get upset? It’s because you are so aggressively, proudly and irretrievably stupid, you asinine little bitch.

      • Bine646

        “Twenty-four presidents have visited Gettysburg since the summer of 1863 and the sesquicentennial has been a year-long series of events, culminating on Tuesday.” CNN

        “The Gettysburg Times reports that every 20th-century president made the pilgrimage except for Bill Clinton. Woodrow Wilson spoke at the 50th anniversary in 1913. Franklin D. Roosevelt spoke at the 75th in 1938. Dwight Eisenhower, John F. Kennedy, and Lyndon Johnson all took separate trips there in the 100th-anniversary year of 1963.” National Journal

        Good enough for you nugget hahaha, love getting people riled up in the morning- so easyyyy

      • Gary Smith

        Learn to read, nitwit: “in the 100th-anniversary YEAR of 1963″ (emphasis mine).

        No president since Taft in 1909 has visited Gettysburg on the — I’ll say it again — FUCKING ANNIVERSARY of the Gettysburg Address, which is what FauxNoise has tried to gen up a controversy over.

        You lose. And are a brainless loser. Congratulations on that, and I wish you luck in your future endeavors of offering people fries or a hot apple pie with their order. Buh-bye.

        -= [ insert double-fisted bird here ] =-

      • Bine646

        Hahahaha you are kidding me right- ignorance is bliss and howard still blows

    • tcaruso01

      So Bine…you spend your time on Progressive websites spewing inanity for what purpose? Thanks for proving the point of this article! Your willingness to sop up the Neocon pundit’s lies shows just how weak and pathetic you truly are!!

      • Bine646

        Weak and pathetic bc i was wrong about one thing- hilarious. Guess CNN is wrong for reporting 24 out of the last 28 presidents have attended or the Gettysburg Times saying only Clinton has skipped. Is Obama a weak and pathetic president bc he lies to us all the time? From not knowing about the healthcare rollout problems (he knew a yr before) to being able to keep your insurance (briefed that would not be the case kept saying otherwise to gain votes) to now its shown they cooked the jobs report last yr during election time- anything to get into office. Here is why a neocon? (i voted obama in 2009 and traveled to dc for the inaug but I guess I just dont like getting lied to like you) doesnt agree with Obamas decison not to go to Gettysburg 1) its like an hr from DC- very very close. 2) he has always associated himself with Lincoln, swearing himself into office on his bible, announced his candidacy near his law office in Illinois. He even took his route from Philly to Dc for the inauguration. 3) He blew it off for a schedule conflict- he had to speak with the wallstreet journal about the economy?? Luncheon at the 4season is more important? Or was it the meeting set up on Monday to discuss Iran with some senators?

    • [email protected]

      I read alot of poeple say he lied, but not one will say what he lied about. Face it, you just don’t like the blace guy sitting in the white man chair.

      • Twerky

        One big lie , The Affordable Health Care Act. Mr. Obama’s own words on every cable and mainstream news outlet…… If you like your healthcare plan, you can keep it. PERIOD !!!

      • [email protected]

        It wasn’t a lie. The insurance companies had to comply with the law, if they didn’t you were dropped, If your insurance comes from your job, you are more than likely to keep it. Now, if your insurance is private, the policy didn’t comply with the law, in other words your insurance sucks. If your insurance sucks, you are free to go and find a better, cheaper plan, unless you live in a red state, in that case, your screw, because when they should have set up the system “3″ years ago, they were busy spending 24 billion dollars trying to stop it, or they just said “not gonna do it”. Now, you have to wait untill your red state get with the program and catch up with the rest of the country. Look at the numbers in the blue states, the system works.

      • Ben Miller

        Actually if the President had read his own signature legislation he would have known these insurance companies had to comply with the law. Oh wait, he did know in 2010 and still kept telling this bit of misinformation.

      • [email protected]

        Again, the insurance companies were suppose to comply, if they had done what the law told them too, the policies that were, and are shit would have been upgraded, to better cheaper policies, but it was more inportant for the red state to wast 24 billion of the tax payers money, to fight a law that’s not going anywhere. The red states made the mess and blame the Pres. for it. You need to stop eating everything foxandfriends feeds you. Go online and compare.

      • David Manhart

        That is the lie part. Obama KNEW policies would be cancelled if they were not as good as the mandated ones. He KNEW in those cases people would not be able to keep the insurance policies they wanted. Obama opponents (of which I am not one – I voted for his reelection) have a point on this.

      • [email protected]

        This is the lie? He said you can keep your substandard policy if you wanted, but becase of the law you can’t? What would you say is his reason for this lie? When I think of someone lying, it a cause for gain, ex: Fox News, what gain does he get form this lie? And why do the repubs want to distroy it? Lies hurt. Do you think he delibritely lied to the people for gain, and what did he gain, and how does it hurt the masses?

      • David Manhart

        The gain is putting his stamp on american history. Are you actually asserting you don’t understand that concept? As to “When I think of someone lying”, you are mistaken.. You do NOT “think” at all. Republicans want to stop it because they see it as a threat to our economy. Whether that will turn out true or not is a debatable subject. Yes, of course he lied. He is not completely incompetent and unaware of the basic outcomes of his legislation. You think so little of him it’s sad.

      • [email protected]

        Look, for a long time, all I heard is “he lied”, “he lied” , “he lied”, but on one would say what the lie was, till now, if he knew before hand, issues would come up, than yes, he lied. Your saying the reason for this lie was so he make his mark in history. Right now there are people calling for a revolution, repubs and teaparty, want America to take up arms and overtrow the government. Why? Because he lied.

      • [email protected]

        Look, for a long time, all I heard is “he lied”, “he lied” , “he lied”, but on one would say what the lie was, till now, if he knew before hand, issues would come up, than yes, he lied. Your saying the reason for this lie was so he make his mark in history. Right now there are people calling for a revolution, repubs and teaparty, want America to take up arms and overtrow the government. Why? Because he lied.

      • David Manhart

        But they are psychotic idiots not living in the real world (evangelical christians – though, I know, same thing). Many also hate Obama because he is black. I voted for his reelection and mostly support him. But I don’t have any blinders on.

      • [email protected]

        I don’t ware blinders either, I just wanted to know what the lie was and if this is the repubs and teapary’s reason for a revolution. OK he lied, did it kill thousands of Americans, like WMDs did? No. If anything it’s saving thousands of lives. Politicians lie, but for personal gain, they want to stay in office and/or make milions, I don’t trust any of them, as far as me, not “thinking”, my fault is I think to much.

      • David Manhart

        I am waiting for more information on whether the lies in favor of Obamacare are justified or not. I am hoping they are and everything turns out fine. I agree with you that you might be overthinking this.

      • David Manhart

        I am waiting for more information on whether the lies in favor of Obamacare are justified or not. I am hoping they are and everything turns out fine. I agree with you that you might be overthinking this.

      • [email protected]

        I don’t ware blinders either, I just wanted to know what the lie was and if this is the repubs and teapary’s reason for a revolution. OK he lied, did it kill thousands of Americans, like WMDs did? No. If anything it’s saving thousands of lives. Politicians lie, but for personal gain, they want to stay in office and/or make milions, I don’t trust any of them, as far as me, not “thinking”, my fault is I think to much.

      • David Manhart

        But they are psychotic idiots not living in the real world (evangelical christians – though, I know, same thing). Many also hate Obama because he is black. I voted for his reelection and mostly support him. But I don’t have any blinders on.

      • David Manhart

        The gain is putting his stamp on american history. Are you actually asserting you don’t understand that concept? As to “When I think of someone lying”, you are mistaken.. You do NOT “think” at all. Republicans want to stop it because they see it as a threat to our economy. Whether that will turn out true or not is a debatable subject. Yes, of course he lied. He is not completely incompetent and unaware of the basic outcomes of his legislation. You think so little of him it’s sad.

      • [email protected]

        This is the lie? He said you can keep your substandard policy if you wanted, but becase of the law you can’t? What would you say is his reason for this lie? When I think of someone lying, it a cause for gain, ex: Fox News, what gain does he get form this lie? And why do the repubs want to distroy it? Lies hurt. Do you think he delibritely lied to the people for gain, and what did he gain, and how does it hurt the masses?

      • Warranty Man

        Yeah…and he lied about WMD’s in Iraq too!!! Oh, wait, that was your guy. I guess that is okay since Americans died. Not as bad as people losing their crappy health insurance for a better policy, I suppose.

      • Bine646

        I can name a few things- how about keeping your insurance? how about not knowing about the problems with the healthcare rollout? how about cooking the stats for the jobs reports last yr? Those are recent things that have come to light, i will not go into others bc I know you will immediately start with some right wing sarcasm. if i had a problem with the half white, half black guy sitting in the white house i wouldnt of voted for him in 2009 or traveled to the inauguration- you to stubborn to admit he isnt what you thought he would be- im not

      • [email protected]

        I’ll give you the lie about insurance. I’m not going to fall back with ” all politicians lie”. There is no reason for it, other than personal gain. There will always be issues when a new system is put into place, these problems were multiplied by 100, because the red states refused to comply. You can’t denied the fact it’s working in the states who have started and set up the system 3 years ago. How can you blame him for that? The economy is improving, in spite of the fact, we are loosing the middle class. Cooking the books? This is the first time I’m hearing this one. The real big issue is we “all” need to take a good long look at, are the politicians, calling for the American people to take up arms, and start fighting in the streets. Did you ever think, he didn’t get all the things done, he wanted to, because every time he tried, the House closed him down?

      • Bine646

        Oregon- having numerous problems. Maryland- spent millions and still having major issues, they delayed small business until april. Vermont- people cannot actually pay for their insurance.

        The article for cooking the books was a nypost article on november 18th.

    • Angela Newman

      Why, I don’t think he should attend. it has not served people who looks like him. And if any of you truly believe what was written, it would not have taken 100 years for blacks to have a semblance of rights. You people, and yes I am using that phrase, are so ego driven and filled with so much hate, that you can’t see the same things you accuse him of, you do yourself or another president did the same. It’s time to take a look in the mirror, and stop being so judgmental, especially over mundane issues. Grow up!

      • Bine646

        1) its like an hr from DC- very very close. 2) he has always associated himself with Lincoln, swearing himself into office on his bibles, announced his candidacy near his law office in Illinois. He went out of his way to take his route from Philly to Dc for the inauguration. 3) He blew it off for a schedule conflict- he had to speak with the wallstreet journal about the economy at the 4season bahahahahaha

      • Angela Newman

        “We believe that attention
        energizes and intention transforms. We are the masters of our own lives, our
        realities, and the universe offers us what we ask of it. Therefore, as we place
        our attention on what it is that we want, we set our intentions to orchestrate
        everything in our lives to help us achieve our goals. As we become receptive in
        this way, the universe conspires to support our every step.”
        You create your own reality.

      • Bine646

        hahaha and that changes the fact that Obama has associated himself with Lincoln and then refused to go to the 150 anniversary of a speech which paved the way for him?

      • Angela Newman

        No, but it did not pave the way for him, since none of his ancestors were slaves. And no, it does not change the fact that he may have used Lincoln to get elected. But you are angry over something that you cannot change. You must ask yourself, Why? Why are you so angry over something that has caused no harm or pain. You create your own reality. Anger will eat at you. This blog is called Forward Progress, yet you have chosen to remain in the past. Move on. It’s not that serious. You think you will prosper from any of this. But nonetheless, I blame myself for even answering your message. I let ego get in the way. But I feel your anger and hate. It’s so deep. I once felt that same anger, but it did not get me anywhere. All I ask is that when you see or hear something that you believe is true, ask yourself if it is true. And if you can’t then chose again. Everything we believe is 99% story. You are angry over something that will never change the course of history. Peace and Love

      • Bine646

        Angry? Did I use caps somewhere? Guy is just a clown with his own agenda- continues to prove it. His approval rating is lower than Bushs- that should say something. Secondly the Blog is Forward Progressives- you do understand that movement right hahahahaha. It is not the same as forward progress- jeeeeeze

      • Angela Newman

        You don’t have to use caps for one to read your anger. It’s what you write, and how you write that permeates through and through. But I have nothing but love for you. Hopefully, others will not continue to make you lose your power.
        Peace out,
        Rev. Ang

      • Bine646

        Some people dont like being lied too- goodday rev

      • Angela Newman

        All politicians lie. Every last one of them. It does not matter the party. It just depends on which lie you choose to believe. None of them tell the truth. We get angry when people don’t do as we want them to do.
        But I’ve learn to forgive. If you have never lied, then I can see how this would truly upset you.

      • Bine646

        But yet Obamas whole campaign was just about that- how lying in washington needs to stop- no more bush days. Transparent govt, accountability in washington- yet all we get is- “i was not aware of what was going on” or ” i was not informed” or spewing of lies about keeping your healthcare to youtube videos causing embassy attacks- if you believed what Obama said (which is what he hopes and what he is based on) then all you will ever know is lies.

    • Mark Lysle

      William Taft, in 1909, was the LAST president to go to Gettysburg on the anniversary. Even REAGAN didn’t go on any of the eight anniversaries he observed in office – and never ONCE went there. period.

      • regressive rightwing trash

        don’t be spewing FACTS to a FOX “news” watcher!!! its UN American ( in the deep south)

      • Bine646

        Taft was? What about Wilson going to the 50th, Roosevelt at the 75th or Kennedy at the 100th? Any of those presidents count? CNN is reporting 24 out of the last 28 presidents have gone and Gettysburg Times says only Clinton skipped. However- did any President skip bc of luncheon with the wallstreet journal at the 4seasons? To discuss the economy? Which was the last president to skip such a historical commemoration-150 yrs is a big deal. Obama is 60 miles away, he announced his candidacy outside Lincolns law office in Illinois, sworn into office of Lincolns bible and even went out of his way to use Lincolns route from Philly to Dc for the inauguration, i wont even get into him being the first black president. Now a luncheon with wallstreet is more important or was it the meeting w senators to discuss Iran?

      • Mark Lysle

        WHO CARES?! Why is this such a big deal with some people, anyway?!

      • Bine646

        Ahh change of pace now that other facts come to light, idk know why you care so much that you are so angry- but here is why its weird- not a huge deal that the president of the united states skipped one of the biggest anniversaries in our countrys short history (a speech that paved the way for Obama himself). 1) Obama has associated himself with Lincoln from the beginning of his candidacy- announcing it outside of Lincolns law headquarters in Springfield. 2) Obama was sworn into office both times using Lincolns bible and used Lincolns route from Philly to DC for the inauguration- Obama went out of his way here yet did not travel the 60 miles to Gettysburg to pay tribute to a man who he has tied himself with? Here is the best part- He skipped bc he had a luncheon at the 4seasons with the wall street journal to discuss the economy- wow pretty important stuff, could reschedule that

    • HF

      Literally the fourth paragraph points out that no president since Howard Taft, in 1909 (OVER A CENTURY AGO) has attended the anniversary. You literally don’t even read it, just spew forth the BS Fox News has shoveled at you.

      This article is right. You people are so stupid you can be counted on to never, ever use your brains. Facts bounce right off you. Logic and reason just…WHOOSH, over your head.

      • Horny_admirer_of_HF

        You’re pretty.

      • HF

        Uh…thanks? Kind of creepy, though, that you apparently made an account to tell me that.

      • Horny_admirer_of_HF

        If it makes you feel any better, you’ll never meet me anyway (and even if you did, you’re way out of my league)… that doesn’t mean I can’t appreciate your beauty

      • Horny_admirer_of_HF

        If it makes you feel any better, you’ll never meet me anyway (and even if you did, you’re way out of my league)… that doesn’t mean I can’t appreciate your beauty

      • Bine646

        Hahahaha, wow look what happens when you are wrong once- imagine if you were this hard on everyone you encountered who was incorrect- but thats right, you are only like this online where you can hide behind you computer. There are numerous reports that Wilson was at the 50th and even released in a new book that he tried skipping but was advised otherwise. Roosevelt was at the 75th, Kennedy at the 100th. This was reported on CNN- 24 out of the last 28 presidents went to Gettysburg- Gettysburg is reporting that only Clinton skipped- sooooooooo. Does that change the fact that Obama skipped a 150 yr anniversary of a speech made by a man who he has tied himself with (Lincoln) over the years? Announcing his candidacy outside of Lincolns law office in Illinois, swearing into office on Lincolns bible, taking his route from philly to dc for the inauguration. But now 60 miles is to far and a luncheon with the wallstreet journal at the 4 seasons is more important than this? Righttttttt- please- refute those facts which i just presented- give me an actual rebuttal instead of spewing sarcasm and childish foxnews jabs

    • Ed

      Really?? What president has gone in this century, cause whenever I ask that question I hear crickets.

      • Bine646

        I was wrong Ed- misread it, but that does not change the fact that its weird he did not go- Obama has associated himself with Lincoln since he bid for candidacy. Here are my reasons, 1) its like an hr from DC- very very close. 2) he has always associated himself with Lincoln, swearing himself into office on his bibles, announced his candidacy near his law office in Illinois. He even took his route from Philly to Dc for the inauguration. 3) He blew it off for a schedule conflict- he had to speak with the wallstreet journal about the economy??? Another morning session was booked like two weeks ago, well after they declined Gettysburg. Just weird is all I am saying

    • LoudGuitr

      Bine646, your comment proves that space aliens mated with goats.

      • regressive rightwing trash

        as aliens are physically inferior I propose that goats raped aliens

      • LoudGuitr

        Goats are not to be trusted.

      • David Manhart

        Which is why I, as an atheist, should be applauded for sacrificing goats! (at least that is what I am accused of by idiotic christians)

      • Binen666

        Do you really? Wouldn’t that make you theist, since you’d need some sort of recipient of the sacrifice in order to sacrifice them? Or maybe they were just jealous because you didn’t invite them to the barbecue.

      • Binen666

        Do you really? Wouldn’t that make you theist, since you’d need some sort of recipient of the sacrifice in order to sacrifice them? Or maybe they were just jealous because you didn’t invite them to the barbecue.

    • regressive rightwing trash

      can someone PLEEEEEEZ change BINEs diapers??

      • Bine646

        Says the guy following me around- you dont have much going on huh?

      • regressive rightwing trash

        ohso correct! lets seeeee…………..Hmmmmm- self employed chef ( since 1989 here in south FLA : broward CO and a touch of north dade) and when NOT accumulating my 100% cash income Im usually doing NOTHING ‘cept playing basketball; lifting weights ( real weights,,not pussy machines) and surfing- trading stocks and options ( no more futures) and totally rearing apart my 5’6 133 LB long haired double D breast girlfriend ( natural; no boooooob-jobs PLEASE!) but as U adroitly say,,,,NUTTIN GOIN ONNNNNNNNNNNN

      • Bine646

        I see you are your biggest fan hahaha, cant find any friends to promote your “life” huh- need to take to internet message boards trolling folks to spread the word? Get back to that BBW gf of yours and stop following dudes around online- queerbate

    • Binen666

      The actual reason why Obama got elected twice wasn’t because of lies from the left side. It was because the other choices were not better and they made it clear during their own campaign. If you don’t want someone to get elected twice, make sure you don’t eliminate competent candidates from the other party during the primaries.

      • David Manhart

        Amen. Conservative libertarian republican here who voted for Obama’s reelection because the republican candidate was a rich out of touch mormon.

      • Bine646

        Obama got elected twice bc he cooked the books for the job reports- new nytimes article shows that. He lied to 5 million Americans with “they can keep your insurance” and he kept quiet the fact the he knew the healthcare rollout would be a disaster. Bush was elected twice- its only proper Obama was also so this country can see what an incompetent he is

    • http://www.vailcowboy.com/ vailcoloradocowboy

      wrong

      • Bine646

        You are right, i was wrong, he was not the first president to skip, i am sorry

    • Guest

      ^^ Dear RawStory friends and commenters. Bine646 is a prime example of Republican Derangement Syndrome. The poor person is so incensed by a black man being president that he/she begins spouting incorrect information (no doubt obtained from Fox News, NewsMax, or Breitbart), fabricating half-truths, and taking the obligatory swipe at the president’s personal activities. This is a text book case of how this sort of person operates. It’s sad, really.

      • Bine646

        I voted for Obama- twice. Nice try tho, i got one piece of information wrong- wish you were so hard on Obama everytime he is wrong.
        Here is why its wierd that Obama did not go to Gettysburg- 1) its like an hr from DC- very very close. 2) he has always associated himself with Lincoln, swearing himself into office on his bibles, announced his candidacy near his law office in Illinois. He even took his route from Philly to Dc for the inauguration. 3) He blew it off for a schedule conflict- he had to speak with the wallstreet journal about the economy- my bad he wasnt playing golf this time

      • Rael Imperial Aerosol Kid

        My original post was overly harsh on you and I apologize – the post has been deleted. I have been very hard on Obama and that’s why I fight back so hard when he gets wrongly attacked (especially with lies and vitriol). I HATE the drone program, I HATE that we are in Afghanistan, I HATE the surveillance state (while promulgated via the Patriot Act, he has done nothing but further it). I HATE the big f*cking french kiss that banks, healthcare, and energy companies get from this administration. I HATE that money is constantly being chipped away from our municipalities and school children, elderly, sick, hungry, mentally ill, and veterans. So…yeah, I don’t think the guy walks on water. But I’ll defend him when he’s right (or not wrong, as the case may be).

      • Bine646

        Fair enough- thanks. I agree on the surveillance stuff aswell

      • Rael Imperial Aerosol Kid

        Nice – it doesn’t actually delete the post, just assigns it to a “Guest”. Sorry.

      • Bine646

        no worries

  • Kay Lorraine Sharp

    haha and the commenter proves the article is spot on.

  • Jeff Kramer

    “I love how the right-wing media blatantly treats conservative voters like idiots, knowing that they’ll eat it right up”. This may be the most accurate thing written anywhere in a long time regarding certain GOP voters.

  • DJ86

    Bine646 you must adore FOX News

  • Jason Hartwick

    Yet again … Ok, so conservatives/republicans are morons who buy any party line they are fed. Unfortunately, so are are liberals/democrats. You automatically hate all things put forth by conservatives without actually looking at the meat of it. You are saying they don’t know their history, and yet defending the reading of the Gettysburg address by saying “he was just reading what he was given”. Well, if he knew HIS history, he would know those words were in the speech that was actually given. All I’m saying is that the venom you spout is no less poisonous than the venom THEY spout, maybe since you claim to be the reasonable/thinking/calm side, you should think about correcting these errors without being so snide about it? Oh, right: “but that’s what they do”. Isn’t one of the themes of modern liberalism “be the bigger person”? Again, only applies when you feel like it. Right. Sorry.

    • soldout_in_sf

      “You automatically hate all things put forth by conservatives”

      Nonsense. The right wing noise machine spouts garbage that you swallow hook line and sinker, but that doesn’t mean it’s true or that democrats have to treat it with any seriousness.

      I will gladly debate specifics with you. Documentary filmmaker Ken Burns produced a video of people reading the Gettysburg address. Burns provided the text to be read by all participants. The text Burns provided did not contain the phrase “under god” because it was not written in Lincoln’s original draft.

      That’s all there is to it. Any controversy is in your head.

      • trumpman

        Jason is correct. Yes, these were made up controversies, of which I’ve already reprimanded such posts on facebook. But the writer of this article’s attitude is just not content with the facts, eg. ” Just more of the same from the people whose careers depend on the abject stupidity of the average conservative.”.

        I’ll tell you this, both parties are corrupt, and are being controlled by the elite global bankers. However, the Democratic party is sooooo far worse in their progressivism and dismantling of moral laws.

      • soldout_in_sf

        Both parties are certainly corrupt, but your characterization of progressive ideology proves you don’t understand progressivism.

        It’s conservative economic ideology that has gutted the middle class and created historic wealth disparity (which is why the economy is in the crapper right now – consumers have no money with which to consume, all the money is controlled by the wealthy, for example 86% of stock is owned by 5% of the population).

        You’ve been conned into voting against your economic interest because you vote based on social issues, so quit blaming democrats for a situation you created by electing republicans.

      • regressive rightwing trash

        moral? ya mean like making women get invasive ultrasound procedure? like crippling food stamp programs which 73 % are consumed by older americans and kids UNDER 13? ( get a job U moocher) MORAL? U mean the white trash regressive crybaby CHRISTIAN interpretation of what JESUS taught? you mean EQUALITY for gays/ women/ latinos/ ETC?? you mean the moralistic sending tax breaks to quasi-trillionaires? wow– I understand now!!! VOTE REPUBLICAN

      • http://www.vailcowboy.com/ vailcoloradocowboy

        I do not understand, please explain with less emphasis of select words.

      • regressive rightwing trash

        if U cannot(willnot) understand what I wrote above Im gonna have U watch FOX “news” so U can learn the opposite

      • http://www.vailcowboy.com/ vailcoloradocowboy

        Please Sir, I am not being antagonistic. I am trying to comprehend your point or position. While it may be clear in your mind, I still don’t understand. I typically do not watch Fox News reports because I find them untrustworthy at best. I do respect your right to any opinion.

      • regressive rightwing trash

        trumpman( above post) was writing about how “liberals” are dismantling MORAL laws,,so I mocked his–and the regressive rightwings–so-called MORAL laws by naming some of what they have done. the disgusting white trash MORAL MAJORITY is known for the destruction of social programs which help kids ; sickly and elderly as the regressive crybabies claim that it builds a nanny state and is corruption -laced by ( inferring) blacks. Im tired of scumbags who have this haughty elitist stance that THEY are correct ( despite facts contrary) because JEEEEEESUS is on their side ( because these creeps tithe at a tax free church)

      • http://www.vailcowboy.com/ vailcoloradocowboy

        TY

      • http://www.vailcowboy.com/ vailcoloradocowboy

        TY

      • regressive rightwing trash

        trumpman( above post) was writing about how “liberals” are dismantling MORAL laws,,so I mocked his–and the regressive rightwings–so-called MORAL laws by naming some of what they have done. the disgusting white trash MORAL MAJORITY is known for the destruction of social programs which help kids ; sickly and elderly as the regressive crybabies claim that it builds a nanny state and is corruption -laced by ( inferring) blacks. Im tired of scumbags who have this haughty elitist stance that THEY are correct ( despite facts contrary) because JEEEEEESUS is on their side ( because these creeps tithe at a tax free church)

      • http://www.vailcowboy.com/ vailcoloradocowboy

        Please Sir, I am not being antagonistic. I am trying to comprehend your point or position. While it may be clear in your mind, I still don’t understand. I typically do not watch Fox News reports because I find them untrustworthy at best. I do respect your right to any opinion.

      • David Manhart

        Dismantling of moral laws? Just say it.. Not putting the faggots in prison for sodomy, allowing them to marry, and letting them into the military.. Nice way to try to put a smiley face on your bigotry, but we know what you mean.

      • Guest

        @ David Goose Step much? Just put your white hood down you homophobic POS.

      • David Manhart

        Idiot.. I am gay. I am pointing out his bigotry. I see you liberals can’t read and comprehend words just like tea party members can’t.

      • regressive rightwing trash

        ahhh,,,david please : cut him some slack. most people have the intellect of a coelecanth

      • 2Smart2bGOP

        Please refrain from painting everyone with such a broad brush. I like to believe that there are intelligent, well reasoned individuals on both sides. Just as there are overly sensitive, hyper-reactive individuals on both sides. We would all be much better off if we listened as much as we spoke.

      • 2Smart2bGOP

        You didn’t understand his post. You do us on the left no favors when you have a knee jerk response without understanding the other point of view.

      • canyongal

        gee, you think sexual orientation is about sex? It isn’t. Nor is marriage. Don’t you and your ‘woman’ sodomize one another?

      • David Manhart

        LOL! canyongal, You are another idiotic liberal who can’t read or comprehend. I am a gay man pointing out his bigotry. I don’t know which is worse, the bigot who hates me because I am gay, or your being too stupid to breathe. Go dye your hair back to blond.

      • canyongal

        you sound very stressed.

      • David Manhart

        I bet you get that a lot when you say stupid dumbfuck things.. Is that your typical response when people can’t believe the crap coming out of your mouth?

      • canyongal

        you seem angry, I guess I was being kind implying that you were stressed. How about you STFU?

      • David Manhart

        Oh sweetie.. You seem a bit upset. Was it anything I said?

      • David Manhart

        Oh sweetie.. You seem a bit upset. Was it anything I said?

      • canyongal

        you seem angry, I guess I was being kind implying that you were stressed. How about you STFU?

      • canyongal

        you sound very stressed.

      • David Manhart

        LOL! canyongal, You are another idiotic liberal who can’t read or comprehend. I am a gay man pointing out his bigotry. I don’t know which is worse, the bigot who hates me because I am gay, or your being too stupid to breathe. Go dye your hair back to blond.

      • canyongal

        gee, you think sexual orientation is about sex? It isn’t. Nor is marriage. Don’t you and your ‘woman’ sodomize one another?

      • Rael Imperial Aerosol Kid

        Wrong.

      • Ellen H.

        Morals, schmorals. If you look to the government to get your morals, you have a huge problem.

      • Ellen H.

        Morals, schmorals. If you look to the government to get your morals, you have a huge problem.

    • ForThePeopleNotTheRICH

      While I agree, in the sense that if a person is going to bash another side, they better be willing to take a bashing themselves, myself, as a moderate, have friends on both sides of the political spectrum, and I find that my conservative friends are often far more misinformed than the ones on the left.

      Rabid thoughtless clinging to ideology is a mental disease that both sides share.

      • Jason Hartwick

        All of those things were what I was saying. Thing is, it is far easier to find conservative-bashing online, so I find myself in the unpleasant situation of seeming to go after liberals far too often, which of course people misinterpret as an attack. Of course, that is the point of what I was getting at, so I suppose those who fire back with anger are only proving my point, really lol

      • Warranty Man

        If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck…

      • Jason Hartwick

        You know what is funny about that? Just yesterday I was under fire from conservatives on this site for defending a liberal ideal. Hilarious how alike the comments I am seeing are.

      • Warranty Man

        I guess we are just retreading the same tire over and over again. I’ll make a deal with you…Conservatives stay out of moral human rights issues and Liberals won’t call out how stupid you are when you say stupid shit.

      • Warranty Man

        I guess we are just retreading the same tire over and over again. I’ll make a deal with you…Conservatives stay out of moral human rights issues and Liberals won’t call out how stupid you are when you say stupid shit.

      • David Manhart

        Here here.. I am with you on that. Socially liberal here, but have been a conservative (economic) libertarian (get out of my life – not the evangelical so called Tea Party type)) republican for the past 25 years. I was liberal bashing before I was Tea Party bashing. Both ideologies need to be bashed IMHO.

    • Ken Strickland

      How do you know that Lincoln actually uttered those words? You don’t. There are no recordings of the speech. So for all we know, what was read by the President could have been the actual speech.

    • Anniebananie

      There is a statistical significance to level of intelligence and political leanings.

      • regressive rightwing trash

        FOX”news” emanates sonar and radiation which effectually lowers IQ in inbred white trash,,,,, even during the commercials??

      • David Manhart

        Their lead in program should be “Here Comes Honey Boo Boo”

      • Jason Hartwick

        The most humourous part of what you are saying is that, while correct, the degree of stupidity and narcissism shown by that little girl is actually a result of liberal child-rearing policies. Ironic.

      • David Manhart

        Ok, you got me there.

      • Jason Hartwick

        Sorry, couldn’t resist that one lol … I’m really not as angry as I’m being given credit for here … honest…..

    • regressive rightwing trash

      hey spongehead,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,”put forth by ‘conservatives’ (NEE: regressives),,,lets see—- OK! no equal rights for gays ,,,,no equal pay for women,,,,IRAQ,,,,,,,, medicare D,,,,,, mandatory invasive ultrasounds,,,,, re-districting ( voting),,,, closing /shrinking hours + days TO vote,,,,,no backround checks for GUN purchases,,,, shall I go on? OK,,,,, ( ST REAGAN) outsourcing American manufacturing JOBS overseas,,,,,,,selling our DEBT to ASIA,,,,,,TAX BREAKS for uber-wealthy “job creators” ( that’s still working soooo well) ,,,,,crushing food stamps ( see: old people and kids),,,, VOTE REPUBLICAN!!!

      • Jason Hartwick

        So you’re saying that this administration did not continue in Afghanistan? Are you saying that the tax breaks for the uber-wealthy have been stopped? No. I am NOT defending republicans/conservatives, I am trying to get people like YOU to realize that your “perfect” democratic/liberal view is no more or less dogmatic and nonsensical at times.

      • regressive rightwing trash

        u mentioned 2 out of 12 points. that ratio doesn’t warrant further comment

      • Jason Hartwick

        OH! I get it now! We are only supposed to notice mistakes made by ONE side! Again, I am not defending republicans/conservatives … but since I can see you refuse to look at your own motivations with a clear head, but instead insist on clinging to your own fanaticism, I will stop trying to explain reason to you and leave you to your liberalism.

      • regressive rightwing trash

        hey testarudo guy,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, read Robert Cooks reply to U( above) as I don’t wish to attempt to top his splendid vanquishing of U– dems make HUGE mistakes. regressive crybaby repubs mistakes are universally catastrophic and then the crybaby rightwing simply ” forgets”

      • regressive rightwing trash

        hey testarudo guy,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, read Robert Cooks reply to U( above) as I don’t wish to attempt to top his splendid vanquishing of U– dems make HUGE mistakes. regressive crybaby repubs mistakes are universally catastrophic and then the crybaby rightwing simply ” forgets”

      • Rael Imperial Aerosol Kid

        No one said he was perfect. Just better.

      • regressive rightwing trash

        I luv ur username!!!! genesis!!!

      • regressive rightwing trash

        I luv ur username!!!! genesis!!!

      • David Manhart

        Liberals say the darnedest things.

      • Robert Cook

        No, the administration continued Afghanistan, you are correct. Tax breaks? Those would be removed by acts of congress, who are still on this “one-term president” thought process, tho bills should have at least been introduced. Both parties are flawed, I just happen to believe the GOP, using their religious persuasion have led their followers to believe actions of the gov’t are directly correlated to passages in the bible (note: bible. No other holy book – as it seems, at least to me, that the GOP only accepts Christians, and befriends (but does not accept) Jews… most others are cast aside), and use their followers ability to strongly believe without proof to spin virtually ever single event that has arisen.. the gov’t shut down (slim-down if you ask the GOP or Fox) is a great example: Ted Cruz talked for 21 hours, said we should shut down, worked with house reps to get it shut down, finally got it shut down, then stood outside the WWII monument with those veterans and yelled that it was closed and asking why (while telling the GOP followers they had NOTHING to do with it), then stood back and, after they re-opened it, stated “victory! It worked out perfectly for us!!” – and their followers recited it word for word, note for note. While the Democrats tend to hang onto the things the party gives them, it only goes so far, before they start going “wait a minute… something’s off here” and make up their own minds…

      • Robert Cook

        No, the administration continued Afghanistan, you are correct. Tax breaks? Those would be removed by acts of congress, who are still on this “one-term president” thought process, tho bills should have at least been introduced. Both parties are flawed, I just happen to believe the GOP, using their religious persuasion have led their followers to believe actions of the gov’t are directly correlated to passages in the bible (note: bible. No other holy book – as it seems, at least to me, that the GOP only accepts Christians, and befriends (but does not accept) Jews… most others are cast aside), and use their followers ability to strongly believe without proof to spin virtually ever single event that has arisen.. the gov’t shut down (slim-down if you ask the GOP or Fox) is a great example: Ted Cruz talked for 21 hours, said we should shut down, worked with house reps to get it shut down, finally got it shut down, then stood outside the WWII monument with those veterans and yelled that it was closed and asking why (while telling the GOP followers they had NOTHING to do with it), then stood back and, after they re-opened it, stated “victory! It worked out perfectly for us!!” – and their followers recited it word for word, note for note. While the Democrats tend to hang onto the things the party gives them, it only goes so far, before they start going “wait a minute… something’s off here” and make up their own minds…

    • Francois Bergeron

      What, pray tell, has been put forth by conservatives in the last 50 years?

      • regressive rightwing trash

        tax breaks for wealthy,,,,,,,, jeeesus in government ( local ) ,,,,upgrading military ( financially),,,,,, medicare D,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, crippling the postal service,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    • CherMoe

      What’s the “meat” of what Republicans are saying? And is any part of it a truth that Americans can count on, and will it be of benefit to citizens or HARM them?? George Bush had scarcely ANY command of the English language and “ad libbed” half of what he said. He also didn’t READ his daily briefings. Remember, he said he didn’t like to read. So his staff READ the briefings to him and any other documents put before him to sign. I’m a Democrat and I believe what IS, not what people spoon-feed me. Having said THAT, I would have NO PROBLEM voting for an Independent like Bernie Sanders because he DOES THE RIGHT THING. In the end, that’s what matters. Modern “liberalism” is more acceptable than ancient barbaric “conservatism.” Certainly more humane for Americans and the overall benefit of everyone. NOT just the 1%. As is dictated in our Constitution.

      By the way, you could also ease up on the “snide” and the “venom” which I suspect you aren’t recognizing in yourself. Try to remember “believe half of what you see and NOTHING that you hear.” Relaying facts just doesn’t sit well with some people. And some people lie so much that they either believe it themselves, or they find that’s the only way to achieve and maintain power.

      • Jason Hartwick

        The problem is, “ancient conservatism” would include things like ancient Celts, who honoured women, respected them, and held them as equals. “Ancient conservatism” would have to include The Roman Empire, where homosexuality was accepted, anyone of any race was given Roman Citizenship as a matter of course, provided they were born within the confines of the Empire, but not limited by colour, religion, creed, whatever. The idea that “old” is “worse” is not necessarily so. “Progress” is moving up the acceptance of ALL points of view, not automatically assuming that “liberal” ideas are good and “conservative” ideas are bad.

    • hermanprovi

      The words, “under God”, should NEVER appear in any Political speech or references!!!!!!!!

      • Jason Hartwick

        I see. So we need to stop talking about the holocaust in schools, not to deny it happened, but because it happened to (what is technically) a religious group? We need to stop teaching about the horrors of slavery and how wrong it is because it was started by religious morons? This is the sort of fanaticism (yes, I DO mean your anti-christian fanaticism) that led to things like the Spanish inquisition and the holocaust and wiping out the Knights Templar and the Salem Witch Hunt and Iraq. Just because your fanaticism SEEMS like a good thing, it is still anti-something fanaticism and will lead to no good.

      • regressive rightwing trash

        holocaust: historical……slavery: historical,,,,,religion? superstition with no proof backing up any/all mantras and dogmas.

      • hermanprovi

        Every politician that runs for office in the SECULAR Nation should be forbidden to mention any deity they have a belief in!

      • hermanprovi

        Every politician that runs for office in the SECULAR Nation should be forbidden to mention any deity they have a belief in!

    • Rael Imperial Aerosol Kid

      No.

  • lemmecomplain

    So is the president not going because no other president in 100 years has gone or is there another reason? It seems that that is a poor reason. It is the 150th anniversary. It would have been respectful for him to go at the very least. I am a great supporter of Obama. Just seems that he could have gone regardless of what other presidents have done. It’s not like it’s a regular daily speech.

    • Tu_puta_madre

      Actually, it is a regular daily speech now. It was extra credit to memorize it in high school and we got to hear it more than 30 times in one single day.

      • AZComicGeek

        We had to memorize it in jr high. No extra credit, just regular history class.

      • lemmecomplain

        hearing it thirty times doesn’t make it “regular.” So a Ferrari drives by 100 times. That makes it a regular car even though there is only one? Doesn’t make sense.

  • LSC

    Oh the horror!

  • Dan A Currie

    According to documents supplied by the Adams County Historical Society,
    16 presidents have visited Gettysburg while they were in office —
    Lincoln on Nov. 19, 1863; Rutherford B. Hayes on May 30, 1878; Grover
    Cleveland May 4, 1885; Theodore Roosevelt on May 30, 1904; William H. Taft on Nov. 19, 1909; Woodrow Wilson on July 3, 1913; Warren G. Harding on July 1, 1922; Calvin Coolidge on May 30, 1928; Herbert Hoover on May 30, 1930; Franklin D. Roosevelt on May 30, 1934, and July 3, 1938; Harry S. Truman on July 6, 1946; Dwight D. Eisenhower on Nov. 13, 1955; John F. Kennedy on March 31, 1963; Richard M. Nixon on April 3, 1972; Jimmy Carter on July 6 and Sept. 11, 1978, and George W. Bush on Sept. 6, 2008. … William H. Taft has been the ONLY other president to every visit on November 19th anniversary since Abraham Lincoln.

    • jibberjabber81

      The Gettysburg anniversary is July 1-3 not November 19.

      • Anon

        We are talking about the address not the battle.

    • jibberjabber81

      The Gettysburg anniversary is July 1-3 not November 19.

  • Robert Cook

    I’m still enjoying the ‘Muslim prayer curtain” image they keep passing around – found one with Big Ron in front of it, shared it back and asked if they felt he wasn’t Christian either…

    • http://www.vailcowboy.com/ vailcoloradocowboy

      Love it, thanks !

    • dillwill

      Did you catch that the flag in front of Bush is actually a UK flag?

    • dillwill

      Did you catch that the flag in front of Bush is actually a UK flag?

  • oztooz

    Oh the Gettysburg Address….isn’t that when Lincoln said “if you like your slaves, you can keep them…..PERIOD!”

    • regressive rightwing trash

      ozttttoz is crying mainly because FOX “news” mandates he do so,,,,,, look at his photo: archtypical white trash asexual ( see: Viagra) regressive CHRISTIAN scumbag who hates all who are NOT old white religious trash

      • Corey Darrough

        Spoken like a true child of the left-wing zealotry. I suppose the idea of respect is not included in the “progressive” mindset.

      • regressive rightwing trash

        hey trashboy– if OZTOOZ had respectfully commented I would have not admonished him with my “left wing zealotry” ,,,,ergo U also are a FOX “news” crybaby sans facts/eschewing facts

      • Corey Darrough

        Spoken like a true child of the left-wing zealotry. I suppose the idea of respect is not included in the “progressive” mindset.

  • Michelle Rhoades

    What kills me is if he did go, the “conspiracy” would have been how much was spent on security and putting his entourage up. .

    • erectile

      I want to see you twerk

    • erectile

      I want to see you twerk

  • http://www.vailcowboy.com/ vailcoloradocowboy

    If he had gone to Gettysburg. The haters would be asking why he wasn’t in the office, working.

    • regressive rightwing trash

      yep– they would say its a clear case of a BLACK man sublimely ridiculing American history because of his still seething hatred for whites ( SEE: glenn “needledick” beck)

    • An Angry Scotsman

      They’d have bitched about the cost and logistics of Obama’s trip.

      • regressive rightwing trash

        hey small dicked loser using my name,,,, I will never meet your coward face but I would LUV to

  • AZComicGeek

    I still say that President Obama needs to endorse breathing oxygen so we can get rid of the Tea Party.

    • regressive rightwing trash

      and endorse going to church so they are in a cunundrum when they have to ( sunday) go

    • regressive rightwing trash

      and endorse going to church so they are in a cunundrum when they have to ( sunday) go

    • AZComicGeek

      BWAHAHA Diaper Contents, is that the best you could come up with? I don’t eat pizza, cold or otherwise and am too busy to waste time on video games.

      • regressive rightwing trash

        hey— I don’t know how someone is using my name but I did NOT make that comment below about U as Im a regressive white trash religious republican HATER,,,,, and MY experience is that the beer drinkers and cold pizza eaters are the southern trash republicans who tithe at tax free churches…. so now I will also go after the diaper king

    • spewking

      Just based on your poor choice of login names, it’s easy enough to ignore your blathering. Seems like you pooped on yourself … again.

    • redhand32

      The TeaTHUGlican billionaires with their untouched offshore wealth, control you knuckle-draggers; and, you eat it right up nodding at FOX Noise and Rush Limbaugh as they laugh at you as their Useful Idiots. As Oprah suggested, we must toleraqte your arrogant ignorance until you die off like the dinosaurs you are.

    • hermanprovi

      Your remarks say more about your character, than your political acumen!

    • regressive rightwing trash

      hey shrivel dicked regressive white trash republican,,,,, Im 6’2 210 self employed chef living in my native south FLA and I am a basketball player who lifts weights and surfs— so im willing to bet a whoile DOLLAR that I am 100X in better shape than U …. no video games; just REAL games jostling with the jackrabbit “brothers” on any and all basketball courts

    • MerryEm

      Mr. Biden, Since empirical research indicates that Republicans in general and Tea Partiers in particular are underinformed, undereducated and mentally deficient, you may wish to keep your mouth shut if you don’t want to contribute to the supporting data.

  • hermanprovi

    Truth and accuracy, have never been their forte

  • Steven J

    Republicans don’t need another excuse to bash President Obama. He’s doing the damage to himself just fine without their help. If he didn’t do this to himself, I would almost feel sorry for him. Almost.

  • Jaydee

    It is partly ignorance on the part of Teapublican regressives, but it is also the fact that they WANT & WAIT for the opportunity to have something to get pissed about and hate Obama for. When that happens they have the chance to spread the hate and misinformation on all the net and share crude insults directed at the Prez. Although the quips are old and tired and have been proven false, no matter, facts mean nothing to these mindless minions!

  • AlengGiam

    eh! They’ve been in the outrage mode since Obama became the president.

  • Patrick

    I agree the reaction of the right is idiotic here.

    Of course I felt the same way when the left slammed Bush for pretty much everything he did regardless of the facts (though I suspect the view of some here will be that all attacks on are ok.

    • http://www.vailcowboy.com/ vailcoloradocowboy

      No matter correct or mistaken, Dubya was an easy target begging to be ridiculed.

    • http://www.vailcowboy.com/ vailcoloradocowboy

      No matter correct or mistaken, Dubya was an easy target begging to be ridiculed.

  • Patrick

    I agree the reaction of the right is idiotic here.

    Of course I felt the same way when the left slammed Bush for pretty much everything he did regardless of the facts (though I suspect the view of some here will be that all attacks on are ok.

  • Patricia Leary

    One of my very right wing Aunts posted an article on FB today that states President Obama wants to change the national anthem to, “I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing”….she was LIVID! LMAO

    • ldore

      Thank you for my favorite laugh of the day! I can just picture it! – In perfect harmony…

    • ldore

      Thank you for my favorite laugh of the day! I can just picture it! – In perfect harmony…

  • Patricia Leary

    One of my very right wing Aunts posted an article on FB today that states President Obama wants to change the national anthem to, “I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing”….she was LIVID! LMAO

  • Patricia Leary

    BTW… Dubya actually called them fools in one of his infamous quotes:

    “You can fool some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on.”-George W. Bush.

    It seems the entire right wing caught on to this one and pretty much live by it.

  • Patricia Leary

    BTW… Dubya actually called them fools in one of his infamous quotes:

    “You can fool some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on.”-George W. Bush.

    It seems the entire right wing caught on to this one and pretty much live by it.

  • Angel Rivera

    So there are at least two versions of the Gettysburg speeches available and the one Obama used did not have the word god… OK that proves that the world is going to end. Wake me up when Obama paints the White House black, green and red…

  • Angel Rivera

    So there are at least two versions of the Gettysburg speeches available and the one Obama used did not have the word god… OK that proves that the world is going to end. Wake me up when Obama paints the White House black, green and red…

    • An Angry Scotsman

      He’s gonna paint it red, white and green, cause he’s gonna take our guns and bibles and jobs and give them to illegal immigrants

      • Angel Rivera

        well, Obama can get the NRA to support him if he suggest a give guns to minorities. The right wingnuts will have a stroke and call for gun control, but the NRA supports the gun manufacturers.

      • Angel Rivera

        well, Obama can get the NRA to support him if he suggest a give guns to minorities. The right wingnuts will have a stroke and call for gun control, but the NRA supports the gun manufacturers.

    • An Angry Scotsman

      He’s gonna paint it red, white and green, cause he’s gonna take our guns and bibles and jobs and give them to illegal immigrants

    • Sandra Magness Moore

      actually there are five versions of the Address

      • Angel Rivera

        I didn’t know that. Thank you!

      • Angel Rivera

        I didn’t know that. Thank you!

    • Sandra Magness Moore

      actually there are five versions of the Address

  • tjgauthier

    Allen, my dear boy. In this short piece, you called the conservatives ignorant and dumb and gullible. Allen, my dear boy, as soon as you call names, you are admitting you have lost the argument. Calling names is something 10 year old boys do on the playground because they cannot articulate a rational argument.

    • Corey Darrough

      It doesn’t help he got his facts about the Gettysburg Address wrong.

    • Corey Darrough

      It doesn’t help he got his facts about the Gettysburg Address wrong.

  • tjgauthier

    Allen, my dear boy. In this short piece, you called the conservatives ignorant and dumb and gullible. Allen, my dear boy, as soon as you call names, you are admitting you have lost the argument. Calling names is something 10 year old boys do on the playground because they cannot articulate a rational argument.

  • Doc A

    Ignorant conservatives???…..well, that’s like the pot calling the kettle black! I like how you guys call yourself “progressives” now…..I guess that’s good if you think progress is bloated, inefficient government, overspending, overtaxing, lack of personal responsibility, etc, etc. As a smart, well educated (science degree not a worthless liberal arts degree) centrist independent (means I actually think instead of acting blindly with a partisan script), I’m always amused at how far right and far left blogs portray themselves as the real voice of America, when in reality, the majority of Americans think you’re all ignorant, arrogant assholes!

  • Doc A

    Ignorant conservatives???…..well, that’s like the pot calling the kettle black! I like how you guys call yourself “progressives” now…..I guess that’s good if you think progress is bloated, inefficient government, overspending, overtaxing, lack of personal responsibility, etc, etc. As a smart, well educated (science degree not a worthless liberal arts degree) centrist independent (means I actually think instead of acting blindly with a partisan script), I’m always amused at how far right and far left blogs portray themselves as the real voice of America, when in reality, the majority of Americans think you’re all ignorant, arrogant assholes!

  • Bill of Rights

    Drones….anti constitution God Haters

  • Bill of Rights

    Drones….anti constitution God Haters

  • sedona2

    I was going to join the discussion but since 90% of the commenters are brain dead I prefer to not. Read some history people. Ignoring reality is a death spiral. By the way Allen a degree in political science is a bowl of spaghetti. You need to glue some of those ends together.

  • John Brown

    No President since Taft has visited Gettysburg? How did Eisenhower not visit Gettysburg, when he lived there?

  • confused

    Why would Burns give “Nicolay Copy” to the president only and not the other 57 readers? Was he trying to set the president up?

  • Roland Babbitt

    What kills me is that Lincoln said “under God” and Barry left it out. Ignorant libs can suck it.

    • regressive rightwing trash

      we libs have no problem with GOD———————————————— we have a PROBLEM with a statue or a dogmatic GOD which religious scum mandates as the ONLY GOD ( see: dead jewish carpenter) and the crybaby white trash regressives who TRYtryTRY to include THEIR superstion in OUR Government and legislation,,,,, hows that taste roland crybaby??

  • Jane M.

    Fox “news” needs to keep their viewers in a perpetual state of outrage over Obama for ANY reason in order to keep those viewers.

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