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Phil Robertson, Duck Dynasty and Why His Suspension Isn’t an Attack on Free Speech

1491171_10152106480557489_1206416107_nOh man, the moment I saw this story I just knew people were going to flip out.  The extremely popular show Duck Dynasty had one of its popular cast members suspended for remarks he made during an interview with GQ magazine.  Many are calling Phil Robertson’s comments “homophobic,” but at the very least they were certainly anti-homosexual.

First let’s take a look at what Robertson said.

It started off with his thoughts about sex between two men:

“It seems like, to me, a vagina — as a man — would be more desirable than a man’s anus. That’s just me. I’m just thinking: There’s more there! She’s got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I’m saying? But hey, sin: It’s not logical, my man. It’s just not logical.”

It’s pretty much typical garbage from someone who’s been raised to think homosexuality is “gross.”  It’s clear his words come from how he was raised more than a learned behavior.  His ignorance about this issue is clear.  Some might call this homophobia, but I don’t.  I just call it ignorance.  There’s a difference between the general fear of homosexuality and simply being ignorant about it.

He then continued with the typical rhetoric you’ll get from somebody who’s anti-gay:

“Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men.”

I don’t even know where to go with that.  Somehow he took homosexuality, hit up bestiality, then went around to promiscuity.  As if homosexuals are the only ones who sleep around freely.  This is just more ignorance.  Again, I wouldn’t call it homophobia, just utter stupidity.

And of course he then has to quote the Bible:

“Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers — they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.”

Well, considering I’ve seen his show, his sons and what his products are made of – I hope he’s never read Leviticus.  Because I’m sure there are many rules listed in there that would condemn him and his family to hell.  I hope he’s never eaten shellfish or sold blended (or worn) clothes made from blended materials.  And I wonder if his family has any tattoos?  Those are also forbidden in the Bible.

Now, his suspension from A&E has “free speech” people up in arms – proving their ignorance.

Listen, when you work for someone, or some company, you’re held responsible for how you represent yourself.  Is Mr. Robertson being thrown in jail or prosecuted for his remarks?  Of course not.  They’re his own personal views — which he has every right to believe, no matter how ignorant they might be.

That being said, as a celebrity (and representative of A&E) he is held to a different standard of “free speech” than an ordinary citizen.  Would he have had the right to stand on a stage and say he hated black people?  Of course he would.  But that doesn’t mean as an employee of A&E he’s free to say something like that without repercussions.

As a private citizen we’re free to say basically anything we want.  But as employees of specific individuals or companies we are not, if we value our job security.

This is something these “protect free speech” buffoons flipping out over Robertson’s suspension just don’t seem to understand.

Phil Robertson faces no legal ramifications for his comments.  But as a representative of a company, he’s held to a different standard where his own personal views (once expressed publicly) do carry consequences.

And I feel sorry for the millions of people who are too ignorant to understand the difference.

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Allen Clifton is from the Dallas-Fort Worth area and has a degree in Political Science. He is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and author of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on both Twitter and Facebook. Have feedback, compliments, criticism or hate mail? You can email him as well.
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  • I stand with Phil

    The writer of this article is the ignorant one. To state that homosexuals are not the only ones being promiscuous is disengenous at best. I don’t know of any heterosexuals who have sex with unseen partners in dirty restrooms. This trend was started by the homosexual community because they are deviant and with out any morals.

    • msvonn

      Being promiscuous does not only mean having sex with strangers in bathrooms. If heterosexual promiscuity wasn’t so rampant Maury Povich would have no talk show since DNA tests wouldn’t be needed.

    • Weezy

      Promiscuity- banging strangers in dirty restrooms.
      I was doubtful at first, but the dictionary agreed.

    • Andrea Peitsch

      Just because you don’t know of any, doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

    • asiseethem

      you know this how?

    • er…

      Um…I don’t know any homosexuals that have done that either. And not to be a nit picker or anything but the back of car isn’t exactly the cleanest place on the planet either.

      • Guest

        I know a lot of homosexual men and am 100 percent in support of gay rights, but to pretend that cruising (soliciting sex with strangers) isn’t still a part of gay culture is deluding yourself.

      • $85804262

        It’s HOOKING UP, and straight people do it just as much. Seems you are deluding yourself too.

      • Er…

        Last I checked, Heterosexual people call it a one night stand.

      • Er…

        Also, one of the oldest professions known to the human race, that has been around since the time of Jesus is prostitution – by women (and some men do it too) – and I highly doubt that when it happens now that the solicitors of a prostitute are all buddy buddy with them when they hit Vegas.

      • http://www.redheadedfemme.com/ BB-Mystic

        Even if it is, as long as they use condoms to avoid spreading disease, so what?

        Who are you to tell another adult human being how many sex partners they should have?

        I wish we as a society could get rid of this “promiscuity” shit altogether. The number of lovers any person has DOES NOT MATTER.

    • Oded Haber

      ♦ I hear the troll’s digestive juices dripping from here,

    • I stand with Phil

      I think this writer should be suspended for calling people buffoons. Quite unprofessional!

      • raggedcompany

        This isn’t a professional news website… it’s just a guy giving his opinion. On HIS site.

      • Heh…

        Sure, we’ll get right on that…as soon as you take yourself out of the genepool.

    • Wesley34

      Do you have any clue what promiscuous means? In the eyes of your god, all sins are equal. A heterosexual person sleeping with multiple partners is the same deviant behavior as the glory hole you’re describing. What Phil said doesn’t offend me, and I think our nation has gone a little overboard with political correctness, but nobody violated this man’s rights. He said his piece, and his employer was well within their rights to reprimand him if his statements don’t jive with their stance.

    • http://joevillanova.blogspot.com/ Joe Villanova

      and how do you know that information? Were you one of those self-loathing closeted promiscuous whores engaging in that very act while projecting accusations against others? Bigots like you never cease to amaze me.

    • Jealith

      Actually I’m pretty sure it was done by prostitutes female and male and pedophiles groping little boys. Why use this as an example for gays?They aren’t any more likely to do this than you are. It’s the deviants who go for that sort of thing of whatever sexual orientation.

      • Gregory Petersen

        Gays ARE deviants

      • http://www.redheadedfemme.com/ BB-Mystic

        You can repeat that ignorant statement a million times, and that still won’t make it true. It just makes you a bigot.

      • Gregory Petersen

        no not a bigot and yes gays are deviant

        deviant |ˈdēvēənt| adjectivedeparting from usual or accepted standards, esp. in social or sexual behavior:noun

    • David_in_Houston

      There are over 2 million unplanned pregnancies every year. I’m pretty sure there’s a lot of sleeping around in the straight community. — As for deviant and immoral behavior, Newt Gingrich had two adulterous affairs and married the women he cheated with. So, yeah, I don’t think straight people get a free-pass on morality either.

      Signed,
      Deviant and immoral gay man in an 18-year long monogamous relationship, legally married for 5 years.

      PS: You are absolutely clueless when it comes to what you know about gay people.

      • Heh..

        And probably clueless about straight people too.

    • ohknowyoudidnt

      Restroom floor, hood of car, backseat of car, bed of a truck, you’re going to base deviant bahaviour on the location of a sexual act. Gawd save us! lol

    • $85804262

      Seriously? Generalizing, much? I guess we can turn that around and say all Christians are hate-filled, judgmental idiots, right? I can name quite a few heterosexuals who have random sex constantly- doesn’t matter WHERE it is. No, YOU are the ignorant one here.

    • Leslee Bean

      Have you heard of the brothels in Nevada? You know, where heterosexual men go to have sex with women they do not know?

    • Ryan l

      Lol, seriously? Straight people whore around just as much as gays. Yes, gays tend to feel like they have to be seedier about it and keep it hidden. I personally loathe that line of thinking and that act itself but it’s people like you that have forced them to do it. Because of ignorance and hatred, some gay people are so terrified of their true, unchosen (btw) desires that they feel they must stick to the back rooms. In a world where family would choose a church body over their own son, or string them on a fence, fire them from a job, etc etc, can you really not see why that culture was created? I thank God everyday I never gave bigots who misuse the bible to justify their hate the time of day but my heart hurts for those without that same strength.

      The “Christians” want to blame the gay community for promiscuity, AIDS and the general downfall of “Good ole Amurica” when they should be blaming themselves. Had they not forced gays into the closet to begin with, they would be just like every other human on earth; good, bad and in between just like heterosexuals. Oh but then, we’d all have to look at our own sins instead of persecuting a minority. That sucks, huh?

    • truffdeal

      Phil’s should consider who he calls a sinner as he was unfaithful and his infidelity that threatened to break up his marriage. Lucky for him his spouse was willing to take him – more forgiving than he is.

  • Not to point this out…but

    Yes, we have free speech and can say what we want to say… however that doesn’t protect us from the repercussions of what was said. Why does no one remember -that- part?

    • fuzzlebutt

      Congratulations! You just repeated what the article said. Good job!

    • Gregory Petersen

      Those Q-boy pandering folks at A&E need to grow some testicles. Why does the world have to walk on eggshells for the sake of not offending the hyper offended?

      • Chaduke

        The world doesn’t, people who have television shows who rely on viewers to watch and buy the products they advertise have that burden.

      • Gregory Petersen

        the guys will do just fine selling their duck calls as they did before the Q-boy pandering network picked them up.

      • Chaduke

        I’m talking about A&E, not the Duck dudes.

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        then why don’t they shower or get some teeth>?

      • Kevin Kuhn

        Do you honestly think the produces and editors of this show didn’t plan this staged controversy in order to generate ratings for their pathetic fake reality show? This family is not a bunch of southern redneck rich people, which is obvious to anyone who knows how to use google. Look up their family pre-Duck Dynasty, and you’ll find them to be a bunch of rich white preppy Yuppies who are playing a part in a scripted reality tv show.

      • Brittany Myers

        Are you starved for attention troll? Obviously you need to grow a brain go take your hate some place else

      • Gregory Petersen

        You should be more tolerant.

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        you should pray,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, pray,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,( SEE: beg) and then tithe at a local house of VOODOO ( IE; church)

      • Not to point this out…but

        So if someone started to talk about people like you, in a derrogatory, defaming and rather dehumanizing remarks, it’d be okay because at least they weren’t walking on eggshells?

        Then I say to you, Sir, that you have the patience of a saint.

      • Gregory Petersen

        thanks

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        and the insight of an ant,,,

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        and the insight of an ant

      • ConservMe

        “If” someone talked about us in a derogatory manner? Didn’t this article just refer to people “like us” as stupid and ignorant and Buffoons? What makes it ok for people “like you” to do exactly what your all upset about Phil Robertson doing? Should the author of this article be fired from his job for those comments? I don’t think so. But “you people” are supporting it. I guess it’s only alright when it fits your own opinions. And I don’t care what anyone says or thinks about me. I’m confident in my beliefs and don’t feel as though anyone should be fired or penalized in any way for disagreeing with me.

      • Erica Brittany Cunico

        Because they are a business trying to make money. It’s really that simple. A&E isn’t his friend or family member, they have no obligation to look out for him or be fair to him. They are running a business and they are going to fire anyone who makes them look bad. There really is no deeper level to any of this. If they were trying to take away his freedom of speech they’d sue, arrest, have the article pulled, etc… No. The simplicity of the situation is that they don’t want someone working for them that goes against their beliefs and pissed off a bunch of people. It’s bad for business.

      • Chris Cronice

        Do you know how much money DD has made the network being the number 1 watched show on A&E. You are right the network has pissed off about 80 million fans who watched their show.

      • It’s A Secret

        DD never drew more than 12 million viewers at one time. The average is closer to 9 million. It’s 21st in the ratings, tied with 60 Minutes. Dancing with the fricking Stars, lame as it is, still beats out this turkey for viewers.

      • http://www.bergmannity.com/ William Bergmann

        You’re also comparing it to OTA networks. Try putting it up against shows on cable channels.

      • It’s A Secret

        Which is a specious metric that just allows you to feel better about the show. The only valid metric is “given every potential choice available to them, what did people choose to watch?”

        When more people are watching Dancing with the Stars than they are your show, and you are tied with something as lifesuckingly boring as 60 Minutes, then what you have is a relatively mediocre property.

      • http://www.bergmannity.com/ William Bergmann

        I don’t make money off the show, so I don’t care one way or the other. I was simply asking someone to compare apples to apples. By your logic, Mad Men, The Walking Dead, and Breaking Bad are all mediocre properties, and I just don’t agree with that.

      • Leyton Rocks

        No one is walking on eggshells. Try pointing your ire at the advertisers who pay A & E. They don’t want their products associated with a homophobe. The show may edit out these rawer sides of the Duck Dynasty personalities but GQ magazine has no such incentive. In fact I imagine their sales this month probably peaked at a level much higher than last month as a result of this ‘news’ story

    • http://www.bergmannity.com/ William Bergmann

      Because most of us went to public schools?

  • Aaron Childers

    Meh, the guy has a right to his opinion although I do not agree with it. I have friends that are gay both women and men and while I don’t really support gay marriage it was wrong to make it illegal. Gay marriage is a social issue when it shouldn’t be an issue at all. What really irked me was the comparison to bestiality as if being gay makes you an animal. Gay people are still people and shouldn’t be condemned because of sexual preference.

    • AndrewC73

      For some odd reason, the anti-gay always go straight to bestiality when arguing against gay people. It is a weird fixation they have.

      • Aaron Childers

        Yeah I’ve noticed. Not exactly logical is it? I like to mess with people and ask them where in the Bible it talks about homosexuality as a sin because in the very next paragraph it talks about stoning your wife to death if you have any reason to believe she was not a virgin when you got married. So why is marriage so sacred to these people? I don’t see them bashing their wives’heads in with rocks. So who determines what parts of the Bible to believe in and what parts are outdated and barbaric?

      • Reynard Vulpes

        EXCUSE MEEEE! Slapping the wife around and the occasional punch to the gut or face, or kick in the legs is sport to these folks.

        That they don’t use a rock to the head is proof they are just over the line from savagery … some of the time.

      • cjmarley

        Yep…next thing you know they’ll be marrying their pot belly pigs. :-)

      • VESENG

        Don’t know about pigs but a judge in Utah IIRC seems to think some sort of polygamy is OK because two men could be married in a different state and because Utah doesn’t recognize same sex marriages a man could then marry a woman in Utah and therefore have two marriages at the same time.

        Fun times.

    • VESENG

      Robertson did not compare homosexuality to bestiality though he found both, along with other things, to be sinful.

      • ziggywiggy

        then what does this mean?- “Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men.”

      • VESENG

        It means he finds homosexual acts are sinful along with a list that includes bestiality, adultery, etc. he finds sinful and which acts are found labeled as such in the Bible (New Testament).

  • http://joevillanova.blogspot.com/ Joe Villanova

    Phil Robertson shouldn’t be on television. But here’s why everyone
    should be pissed: he very likely never should’ve been on television, and
    for A&E to pretend that it had no idea the nitro glycerine it was
    carrying in its schedule is an unbelievable pile of horseshit. The
    network and the production company behind Duck Dynasty sought out this
    family from backwater Louisiana specifically because its members
    represented exactly the kind of subculture A&E knew
    it could cynically target a show toward. They played up the rich
    redneck point-of-view, making the Robertsons look like a bunch of
    good-natured, fun-loving, faith-abiding country folk who happen to have
    made a lot of money doing something unusual to many but certainly not
    unusual to much of the target audience. (That audience would love it on
    principle; the rest would eat up the freakshow kitsch as they always
    do.)

    The problem is that Phil Robertson isn’t playing up a damn
    thing. He really is a 67-year-old conservative Christian redneck who
    was almost certain, at some point, to make a comment like the one he did
    to GQ. The fact that a bunch of assholes at a production company and
    television network in Los Angeles believed that they could somehow put a
    muzzle on this guy and keep the unappetizing reality of his belief
    system in check is the height of arrogance and stupidity. The production
    company in particular has worked closely with Robertson for four
    seasons; it always knew what he was truly all about and because of this
    there’s little doubt the network knew as well. It just chose to overlook
    a little provincial ugliness because the money was rolling in.”

    • Chris Tharp

      GREAT comment. I was saying the same thing today. Can anyone really be surprised by his comments? Of course that’s what this guy thinks. The whole family is a load of uber-conservative southern fundamentalists. OF COURSE they don’t have positive views when it comes to Christianity. It could be worse. He could be asked his views on race relations.

      • Madison Blane

        Read the article, he had quite a few awful things to say about black and Japanese people, too!

    • Valerie Crowell

      Joe nailed it. End of story.

    • Marcus Johnson

      This incident reveals the inherent problem with scripted reality TV shows in general: they are not documentaries, nor are they “reality” TV shows. They are programs designed to entertain the masses by featuring people who are too stupid to realize they are being exploited and stereotyped for their exaggerated personalities. These people are then forced into situations that distort who they really are. I find Phil’s statement to be completely odious, but I feel so sorry that he doesn’t see that the real injustice was when a studio exec first asked him to be on the show.

    • Casey

      Exactly. Did they really think their brand would be appealing to gay men in Seattle?

    • Gregory Petersen

      The comment was that a vagina is more appealing in his opinion. You limp wrist, light in the loafers,Q-boys need to grow some skin or go back in the closet.

      • 65snake

        Do you have an actual point to make, or were you just compelled to post some random, ignorant, completely unrelated to the actual article BS because you feel left out?

      • Gregory Petersen

        My point was clear

      • Duckman33

        Clearly ignorant.

      • Gregory Petersen

        If a person needs special protection from opinions then the closet seems like a perfectly logical place for protecting their feelings

      • GR

        What special protections are you talking about? You mean to say that you don’t like that there are consequences for intolerance. Maybe that’s a product of social change. In other words, its more than just the gays that feel gays should have to deal with hate speech. That is not valued and it won’t be accepted. Either it will be forced back into its closet or it the speakers will come out themselves changed.

      • Gregory Petersen

        Special protection such as sheltering their little ears from hearing other opinions about their deviant behavior.

      • GR

        Are they doing that? No they aren’t. They stand ready to confront you, and again it’s not just gays that are doing it either. It seems more and more than its those who believe this is a deviant behavior that try to cover their years–and then yell unfair when the noise is so loud it can’t be ignored.

      • GR

        Are they doing that? No they aren’t. They stand ready to confront you, and again it’s not just gays that are doing it either. It seems more and more then its those who believe this is a deviant behavior that try to cover their ears–and then yell unfair when the noise is so loud it can’t be ignored.

      • Shon Burch

        i hope you don’t mind if i actively hate you after saying this.

      • Chaduke

        He’s clearly illustrating his desire to troll.

      • Andrew Dallons

        So how’s the closet?

      • Gregory Petersen

        I don’t know but I assume it smells like sweaty balls and ass

      • Duckman33

        Only you would know.

      • Gregory Petersen

        What part of “I don’t know but I ASSUME it smells like sweaty balls and ass” don’t you understand?

      • Duckman33

        Never ASSUME my friend.

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        gregorys closet is bereft of any companionship: male or female

      • Gregory Petersen

        And that thought intrigues you, why?

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        intrigues? Nah,,,,,,,,,,,,,, it does add to your persona though. we here in reality land applaud your oligophreniality

      • Sarah Gonzales

        Phil should go back to the swamp where he belongs.

      • Capone De Leon

        Phil was in the swamp, is in the swamp and more than happy to stay there, Hollywood sought him out and the public made it the highest rated show on that network. I would say for GOOD REASON. There are a lot of people that believe the same way he does. A LOT!

      • GR

        By A LOT do you mean concentrated in the over 50 crowd? How about find out where the trend in opinion is moving. What do the millennials think?

      • Capone De Leon

        I mean the RIGHT NOW viewers who make the ratings that took a rarely watched NPR type network and made it a household name. I will be hitting 40 next year and my opinions have VASTLY changed since I was 20. If you are still in that demographic you will have that same change too when you have kids that you are thinking about. The younger generation will always go AGAINST the establishment, if you don’t know that now you will. It is a rite of passage. If the older generation was PRO DRUGS the younger generation would be ANTI DRUG that is the trend and it ALWAYS goes in circles.

      • GR

        So when should I expect the younger generation to change their mind on interracial relationships and black rights? Really, you fail to understand that the millennials see gay rights as equal to civil rights. If my understanding of human rights regresses as I grow older, something fundamental has changed in our society–and not for the positive!

      • Capone De Leon

        Sexual Preference is not a HUMAN RIGHTS issue

      • AniZaeger

        So why should sexual preference not be a human right, but religious choice is? It takes a special individual to be able to see that a biological trait should be discouraged, while at the same time supporting only certain religious choices.

      • Capone De Leon

        Again you are mixing the two. Religion is a CHOICE just like you said. No special rights should be given to choices other than the right to be able to make that choice. That is now what the Gay & Lesbian community is trying to do to us. In San Antonio they have even gone as far as making it where all bathrooms are UNISEX so as to not alienate the Trans Gendered. My wife does not feel comfortable using public facilities with a man in the same room, what happened to HER RIGHT to be comfortable? Why should she be forced to be in that situation? And even worse for those Christian businesses who don’t believe this way they have no right to offer MEN ONLY WOMEN ONLY restrooms. That is not right!

      • GR

        It doesn’t really matter what you think does it? The way we understand human rights will be shaped by the millennial generation and they are not of your opinion. Do I need to start pulling out studies to show you this?

      • GR

        But we millennials do think it is. This is a clash of cultures that I can’t see as reconcilable.

      • Duckman33

        WRONG! I’m pushing 50 and if anything my views became more on the liberal side the older I got. So your theory is incorrect, pal.

      • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

        They have all stuck so many things up their RECTUM the “butthurt” pain has finally hit them and that is why more and more are coming out of the closet nowadays demanding their views and sinful way of life be accepted. They are so built up with butthurt anger that they feel the urge to take a “Liberal,” I mean a shit! Oh silly me, those are one in the same!

      • Chaduke

        I love the way you capitalize RECTUM, very exciting!!!

      • Gregory Petersen

        I would guess that a plugged urethra is covered by Obamacare so plug away Q-boys

      • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

        I wonder if he was successfully able to sign up for RectumCare…I mean ObamaCare yet! Funny…more people support Phil Robertson than have signed up for Obamacare…but shhh I better not say that, Liberals don’t tend to enjoy FACTS too much!

      • Chaduke

        Says the guy who spends his afternoon anonymously seeking the attention of gay men.

      • Gregory Petersen

        Ohhh, I got yours WINK WINK.

      • Gregory Petersen

        Hmm! a Q-boy whose attention is focused on a straight man, could that be a sign of edging towards normal?

      • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

        BREAKING: We are into the late afternoon hours and just as it was last night and this morning, more people still support Phil Robertson than have signed up for Obamacare!

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        we are focusing on you as U are the atavistic “human” we are hoping doesn’t procreate any more as we don’t want shitbag idiots —you–ruining our genetic pool

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        we are still trying to get republican scum policies such as the bush duo and saint Reagan from our system…….. that was really taking it up the ass

      • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

        Apparently Rectums excite you! Why don’t you stick your finger up yours and see if you can hit an E Flat chord!

      • Chaduke

        Now you’re giving instructions! Things are really heating up here.

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        Brandon tithes at the local house of superstition ( SEE: church) and then spanks his monkey to new internet porn,,,,,,

      • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

        Like I said, I hear Obamacare covers Butthurt, have you been able to sign up yet? How does it make you feel more people stand with Phil Robertson than they do Obamacare?

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        more “people” eat at mcdonalds than at HOUSTONS,,,,,,, so would U care to try a better approach?

      • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

        Yet the difference is people can actually eat at McDonald’s and Houston’s and not lose their choice to eat at either one…do you know anyone that has lost their coverage, and even more important, have you been able to sign up for your higher premiums and deductibles called Obamacare yet?

      • kellyandtheboys

        Apparently you don’t know how to read or have severe problems with comprehension. Sorry, Greggy, but before you write perhaps you should read? The comment was much more than that.

      • Gregory Petersen

        You must be stuck on the comparison thing. Both homosexuality and beastiality are sexual deviant behavior. his opinion was honest and truthful.

      • Brittany Myers

        What you did not think we heard your homophobic comment that you had to write it twice?

      • Gregory Petersen

        it didn’t appear the first time but it was worth repeating anyway.

      • David Scott Grouix

        So Gregory what day in your life did you decide to like women over men, since, according to you, no one is born that way and apparently attraction isn’t biological in your eyes, please describe the day you sat down and pondered which gender you prefer? Oh and is it similar to the apparent “chosen” homosexuality displayed throughout all of nature, does a bear, or a dog, or a cat, or any of the other multitude of animals who display homosexuality, sit there and go hmmm, now which gender? Is it the same way you choose to be an ignorant internet troll or perhaps that is something your born into.

      • Gregory Petersen

        The question should be at what point did I decide SEXUALLY to like women as opposed to men and the answer is simple it was at a time when I was going trough puberty and as you know a young man going through puberty is just interested in gratification. I chose women as the subject of my desire for obvious reasons. I was not going to deviate sexually from what my organs were intended for.

      • Capone De Leon

        That is a Good Comparison David. Homosexuality IS pure animal desire that has been accepted. No homosexuality won’t lead to bestiality, but both are the same by way of something that is not a norm that will have a door open to them for becoming that if we become more accepting of it. The pedophiles absolutely use it to say “THEY WERE BORN THAT WAY” if a man can love a man they should be able to love a child, do you find that acceptable? I hope you say no, but if you do where do you draw the line. At homosexuality right?

      • Chaduke

        A clear line is drawn in pedophilia based on age.

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        there was NO SUCH thing as pedophilia until MAN MADE laws said so

      • Capone De Leon

        Are you saying it’s natural like homosexuality? You can’t help who you are attracted to? You were BORN that way?

      • Chaduke

        Anyone who says its a choice is likely bisexual, since that’s the only group who could logically make the choice. He’s also spending his day calling out to gay men, I think its his way of getting through his “curiosity” stage.

      • Gregory Petersen

        If I let you blow me, that would be a choice and I choose not because I am not a sexual deviant.

      • Chaduke

        I’m not the least bit interested in blowing you or anyone else, but thanks for bringing it up. You’re clearly born bisexual and have strong conviction not to deviate to the other side, and that’s fine, live your life however you choose. You’re just making the ignorant assumption that everyone is the same as you.

      • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

        LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        Gregory has a small brain and doesn’t do well with REAL women,so PLEASE stop taunting him and his CHOICE to be ignorant

      • Gregory Petersen

        Debi, is that you?

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        sorry schmuckface,,,,,,, this is my girlfriends chest. Debi seems smart enough to eschew you

      • Gregory Petersen

        It was a joke. If you know so much about me I would have to assume you were someone I know

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        Im willing to wager a big USA dollar that your lady “friends” are not anatomically compelling,,,ergo your crybaby status. Perhaps Y ur “testarudo” thinking is so anti everything which isn’t what U decree as proper. Must suck being you

      • Todd

        Dude, You need to get your facts right about the book of “Leviticus” It was a guidebook for holy living for the Hebrews in old testament times. Most of those laws were done away with when Christ came. Refer to the New Testament.

      • Gregory Petersen

        Homophobic, LOL is that supposed to be an insult? I no no one who actually fears homosexuals except maybe someone who is straight and in prison. Oh, that reminds me, most of the prisoners who are having gay sex in prison made that a choice.

      • Brittany Myers

        People who are born gay are NOT sexually deviant so crawl back under your rock. You are what’s wrong with this country. STFU

      • Gregory Petersen

        People are NOT born gay and yes it is a deviance. when you find a gay gene, let me know, would you? BTW, by trying to convince the world that people are born that way, you are implying they have a birth defect.

      • hugs516

        So now gay people have a birth defect? What utter nonsense.

      • Gregory Petersen

        Read my comment. I said that those who are implying that people are born gay are implying,too, that they have a birth defect.

      • Chaduke

        There’s probably no gene that makes you an asshole either but you’re still tolerated and have the same rights as anyone else.

      • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

        What was that? You said you were looking for a man named Gene so you could penetrate his asshole? What a sick individual you are!

      • Gregory Petersen

        and as far as I know, I have a right to be an asshole, thank you.

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        im agreeing with greggie-poo here: we all have that right

      • Dave

        So, you’re not born gay…. it’s a choice according to you.. ..So when did you decide to be straight? (I’m assuming that you are).

      • Gregory Petersen

        I all ready answered that question.

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        hey FUCKFACE————— do YOU have PROOF to what U are spewing???? WHy would ANYONE “choose” a lifestyle which incurs the ‘wrath’ of small brained ( and smaller dicked) scumbags such as you and the religious “right” when a simple sociological choice of heterosexuality would remove the personal attacks upon the ones who “choose” ( in your crybaby world) to be homosexual? I guess your extrapolation is we also CHOOSE to be black or blonde or green eyed or ( in YOUR ostensible case) Low IQ’ed?????

      • Gregory Petersen

        First off, there is a dominant gene that determines physical characteristics. (hair color, skin color and such) How ever you can choose to change those traits artificially just as you can choose to sexually desire the same sex. Secondly, How do you explain the “choice’ that a person makes later in life to change from one preference to another? I suppose it could be a latent gene IF there was such thing as a gay gene. Thirdly, The F—face comment more accurately describes homosexuals.

      • heather

        Okay then, if you can choose, why don’t you choose to change your orientation? Be gay for a day, since its a choice and all. Ignorant. I can’t imagine what its like to be so close minded and prejudice. Being open minded, and non judgemental is a much happier way to live. And to quote the bible as an argument. The bible also says guys with long hair are going to hell. And anyone who works on Sunday. Also those with glasses and anyone who doesn’t donate 10 percent of every dime they make to the c hurch. People are ignorant.Ignorant

      • Nick

        Greg, my beliefs are not far from yours at all. What people are not understanding is that they are our beliefs. I believe based off of your comments that you are not judging people for being gay……but just stating your opinion and beliefs right? I guess the thing that i find the most interesting is that if Phil was asked the same question and he answered with the complete opposite answer then none of this would even be an issue. Which i think that makes this argument and reaction complete bull shit! They country has become so 1 sided with everything when it comes to all this gay not-gay thing. The gay community can stand up and make a big uproar and do this and do that, but the moment that a christian or a non gay supporter says something it is a complete shit show, which i feel i very unfair and this is the ignorance in its true form. In the interview with Phil in no way was he judging anybody, and he did not say that if you are gay then you have intercourse with animals, and then promiscuity. He was simple stating things that he feels is sexual deviance’s. Whether the person is gay or not, he feels that bestiality or promiscuity is another form of sexual deviance’s, based off of his beliefs and that is all it is. Im just so tired of hearing about GAY RIGHTS/EQUALITY but then christian beliefs are just shot down regardless of what its about, like i said completely one sided. But we all saw what happened the last time something like this happened…..Chik-fil-a……Well i guess we just see what happen.

      • GR

        Gay rights movement is our modern day civil rights movement. I wonder if the racists in the South said you are trampling on my opinions too back then…oh wait they did!

      • Gregory Petersen

        You can have your movement (if it is not packed too tightly) but I will always have my opinion and as long as I have the freedom to voice it, I will. when that freedom is stripped by the progressives, I will still keep my opinion.

      • GR

        I’m sorry. I call bullshit on this whole stripping you of your opinion. No one will strip you of it. You just wont be part of the mainstream conversation. Your talk of deviance will end up in the backwaters of the Internet. Just like fascism, eugenics, and outright racism.

      • Gregory Petersen

        You call bullshit on something I did not say. If you read properly and try for a change to keep your opinion from interfering with what I actually said, you will note that I said I will VOICE my opinion and when my freedom to VOICE my opinion is stripped away, I will still keep that opinion.

      • GR

        Apologies. I did not realize that you recognize your opinion will soon enough become something that is only worth bouncing around in your head.

      • Gregory Petersen

        I chose not to be gay even for one day but if I had a desire for another mans penis that was stronger than my moral convictions, perhaps I might fall into that sin. (not likely) as far as your biblical knowledge, At first glance it seems to be non existent but then I have to remember that “all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God’ but by Christ our salvation is secured

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        hey kreskin: recessive genes appear ; which means DOMINANT genes are NOT all-powerful. as for a person making choice changes later in life I know that when 98% of women choose to be GAY later they are just pissed off at men who are assholes. NOTE: these same women are stupid enough to f*ck men way2 early in dating; then blame the guy for dumping them when they do. if women are smart they see if the guy is truly interested; not bedding him too early because of her low self esteem. I work in an industry surrounded my THOUSANDS of women; seen what I just described here a ton of times. when the woman gets tired of the same “games” other women play they come back to males with enough wisdom to TRY to do things better. I suspect strongly a certain PCT of men and women are BORN with homosexual tendencies. ALSO- I asked if U have PROOF: you did the adroit FOX “news” side-step quite well in evading my inquiry. Care to TRY again? PROOF please

      • Gregory Petersen

        The burden of proof is on those who claim that Homosexuality is not a choice or lifestyle. It is impossible to give evidence non existence but it is possible to show evidences of existence so isolate a gay gene and I will concede.

      • Brian Frang

        For the record, women who “choose” to be gay were bisexual from the start, and still are. They are making a choice to deny a part of their sexuality, but they’re still bi. Those women are not lesbians. You can’t CHOOSE to be a lesbian.

      • Gregory Petersen

        BS

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        ok,,,,,,,,,,,,,,heres my proof: since 1989 here in south florida I have been employed ( self employed) in the adult strip club industry. I have seen hundreds of women CLAIM to be GAY yet when the RIGHT guy came along they were INSTANTLY all over him: many many times marrying him. I personally have dated strippers who CLAIMED to be “gay” and then VOILA!!!! they enjoyed a stallion better than a valley. 99% of “bi” women prefer men but still have not acquired the (thru experience) wisdom as to HOW2 properly win a REAL man,,,, not just some idiot who wants only sex. Ask any BI chic who she would choose: her PERFECT man or her PERFECT woman,,,,, they choose guys every time

      • http://www.redheadedfemme.com/ BB-Mystic

        People most certainly are born gay. When did you decide you were attracted to women? If you’re like almost all heterosexuals, you didn’t have to decide; you just like girls and always have. Gay people feel the same way.

        Science hasn’t yet discovered a single gay “gene” because genes don’t work like that. It’s something a lot more subtle, probably a combination of several genes.

        The last sentence of your comment is absolute nonsense. Brittany didn’t imply any such thing: YOU did. Sexual orientation, of whatever kind, isn’t a “defect”; all it means, basically, is that my genes dictate that I have red hair and heterosexual orientation, and your genes dictate that you have black hair and homosexual orientation. There’s no more importance to it than that.

        When you say “deviance,” I must ask: Deviant from what? That’s a moral judgment, and has nothing to do with science.

      • Duckman33

        But inaccurate, one does not simply start having sex with animals because they are gay. And as far as his comment on leading to being promiscuous, All we have to do is look at Jerry Farewell and Jim Bakker to see that being religious does not exclude you from deviant behavior.

      • Gregory Petersen

        Your comment is a gross exaggeration of what he actually did say

      • Duckman33

        No, my comment is right on point with what he said.

        And I quote, “Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men.”

        It doesn’t get more clear than that, Gregory.

      • amethyst777

        Exactly!

      • facepalmagain

        Sadly, in 17 states bestiality/zoophilia
        is still legal. This includes Guam and American Samoa. The other
        states where it’s legal are Alabama, Connecticut, Hawaii, Kentucky,
        Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio,
        Texas, Vermont, West Virginia, Wyoming and the District of Columbia.

      • Gregory Petersen

        Just like homosexuals, they are sexual deviants.

      • Gregory Petersen

        the comparison is accurate, both homosexuality and beastiality are sexually deviant behavior.

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        homosexuality is deviant according to WHOM? Im straight: the photo is MY womans chest– that being said: “homosexuality” does exist within OTHER creatures on this planet. I don’t understand it but I don’t care either. Your myopic crybaby “view” is akin to stating that vanilla is GODS choice only; or that MOZART is GODS choice ONLY,,,,,,,,,,,, ergo U are an imbecile

      • Gregory Petersen

        So was her chest her choice (surgical) or was it genetically engineered?

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        Mmmmmmmmmm,,,,,,now we are talking as men!! ————-all natural baybeeeeeeeee!!! I have fucked 16 women with boobjobs( im in a business surrounded by that since 1989) and I will NEVER do “number 17″ UGGGH!

      • Gregory Petersen

        deviant |ˈdēvēənt| adjectivedeparting from usual or accepted standards, esp. in social or sexual behavior:nouna deviant person or thing.

      • Gregory Petersen

        What is normal and natural is the compatibility of a vagina and a penis. Penis to penis = deviant. Vagina to vagina = deviant. Penis to rectum = deviant. Animal love = deviant. Its really not that hard to understand.

      • Gregory Petersen

        According to nature.

      • GR

        I guess unsettled science creates a divide. Though I do want to point out that there is a growing body of literature that both observes homosexuality in other animals, and which has suggested both hormonal and genetic causes to homosexuality. I don’t see however a Christian abandoning their beliefs out of principle even if the science was settled. I think you guys would stand like the Alamo, defending your turf until you get overrun by the opposing side. I’m glad that you guys are losing the opinion battle even before the science gets to a conclusion though.

      • Gregory Petersen

        The animal argument is lame. animals do make choices too.

      • GR

        Make choices? About who they like sexually? You came to this conclusion based on what? Please give me some peer reviewed literature on the subject, and not your personal opinion.

      • Gregory Petersen

        I would have used the example of predator vs prey but you are talking sexually so here goes. Male animals (especially juveniles) are looking to get their nut. if there is a female animal in heat and no dominant male preventing them from copulation they will chose the female otherwise they may practice homosexuality
        by choice

      • GR

        “Choice” as in hormones are making them act and they choose whats near them. Great defining of choice! If that’s your argument, then your logic is pushing you toward the pro-gay side. Come on over!

      • Gregory Petersen

        Choice in that the male with his raging hormones will preferable copulate with the female if given the chance

      • GR

        Unfortunately not borne out by evidence. Please show me a scientifically relevant sample size that demonstrates what you’ve just described. I smell bullshit! People really need to stop using their personal experience and their limited observations as quick method of coming to truths. It is only the start of the conversation, not the end of it. You can build your hypotheses but its unadvisable to advocate for large scale policy based on them.

      • Gregory Petersen

        show me the contrary.

      • GR

        It does not seem that the website is friendly to posting studies. I tried to do that but either it was rejected or still is under review.

        Look up: Homosexuality as a consequence of epigenetically canalized sexual development. (2012 study–WR Rice)

        A genomewide scan of male sexual orientation (2004 study by Mustanski et al)–specifically for the introduction which covers many of the major studies in homosexuality up to that point

        And a recent study: Study Finds epigenetics, not genetics, underlies homosexuality (Dec 2012 William Rice)

        More studies are needed and the whole discussion probably won’t be settled for another couple of decades.

      • Gregory Petersen

        If you put a fertile female animal in a pen with male animals that have never experienced sex with a female, the odds are overwhelmingly positive that the female will end up pregnant and chances are (depending on the species) that the males will fight for the honors of impregnating her.

      • Gregory Petersen

        Wouldn’t that just thrill you to death?

      • Gregory Petersen

        ou can do your own research but animals do make choices even sexually.

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        based upon your photo and crybaby response im willing 2 wager that u are not fluent in vagina: maybe just your own quotidian onanistic behaviors

      • Gregory Petersen

        Based on your photo, you are a boob.

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        im two boobs,,,,,,, time for your return to ( a) mathematics (b) female anatomy

      • Gregory Petersen

        Might be offensive to the Q-boys.

      • TheEnd

        Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but your post is not about opinions, it’s about name-calling. Troll away, friend, troll away.

      • Ann

        Too bad it’s the gay guys that are the neat, well-groomed, and well-dressed ones! As a woman, I’d rather be celibate than lend my vagina to these hairy, fat, sloppy Duck men. Shudder.

    • Chaduke

      Pretty much par for the course. A&E is just playing their next hand. Marketing, and all business decisions that go with it can really show us the ugly side of capitalism.

    • TwoSides

      “… conservative, Christian redneck …” ” … keep the unappetizing reality of his belief system …” Really?! I guess I will be the one that steps in and says he is not the only conservative, Christian redneck with unappetizing beliefs or at least I guess our beliefs are as unappetizing to you as what you apparently believe is to us. But here is the point you and people who share your beliefs seem to miss. We are as entitled to our opinions and beliefs as you are. It is all in the handling. If you are going to be allowed to state your views then we should be allowed to state ours and we need to politely agree to disagree and skip the name calling. I would never mistreat someone because of their sexual orientation but it doesn’t mean I will support it. It simply means it is not up to me to judge them for it but I can certainly have my own views as to whether those choices are right, wrong, or for me, for my children … You know the old saying that there are two sides to every story and that isn’t going to change no matter how hard you try to ignore and that does work both ways.

      • [email protected]

        Well, at least youre civil about it, but you cant make that choice for your children.,..that wholly up to them. All gay children came from heterosexual parents….

      • Gregory Petersen

        Not necessarily. (ALL gay children)

      • Jennifer

        Thank you, well said.

      • Duckman33

        My question is: What business is it of yours what someone’s sexual orientation is? Does it really affect you in any way what someone else does in their bedroom at night? Not really. So why are you so concerned about it? And why would you need to support it? All you need to do is live your life and let them live theirs. It’s really that simple.

      • matt

        it was a free country last time I checked.

      • Capone De Leon

        Clearly you did not check on this situation because it is NOT a free country if a man with his own PERSONAL views can’t express them

      • Gregory Petersen

        Especially when he is ASKED his opinion

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        and ,,,,,,,,his OPINION is fine to speak!!! remember: if U work for an employer who has contractually stated –and U signed– a document allowing employer to vanquish you upon EMPLOYERS view of YOUR poor choices/behavior,,,,that is NOT a FIRST amendment right violation

      • Morgan Sheridan

        Oh, he can express them. But he has to accept the consequences for what he says in the public marketplace. The government isn’t going after him. They’re not going to prosecute him and jail him… and that is what the 1st Amendment protects him from.

      • Capone De Leon

        Why should there be ANY consequences for a Conservative Opinion and no consequences for a Liberal one?

      • reddog

        The Dixie Chicks didnt have consequences?

      • Duckman33

        The Dixie chicks were employed by themselves. Not A&E or any other company.

      • Oldmomma55

        The Dixie Chicks performing career went down the toilet after their comments about the war in Iraq….but not due to their employer, rather their fan base.

      • I am T

        Exactly.

      • Morgan Sheridan

        Yeah.. they faced a social consequence that cost them economically for what they said. It hit them in the wallet. They took the hit, because free speech often does have it’s costs.

      • Majorbuttercup

        Lipton Tea, which had decided to do an advertisement/endorsement/sponsorship
        campaign with the Chicks, put many of the ads they had shot on hold. I think the parallel from Reddog is accurate.

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        hey sh*tbag———– you said ” consequences”…..and NOW U are dealing in degrees??? typical of a crybaby who doesn’t want dialogue with those of us armed with FACTS

      • John Baker

        Which they really should have expected. Most country fans are decidedly on the conservative side.

      • I am T

        Problem is, as someone who worked in radio at the time, the American public answered that question 9 to 1 to drop the Dixie chicks. The American public seems to be supporting Phil Robertson/Duck Dynasty clan on this one.

      • Chaduke

        I don’t agree with Phil’s religious ideology but I think A&E made the wrong decision on a moral level. Financially we’ll see if it was the right choice, and who knows if this is all a publicity stunt. As a producer of a “reality” TV show, I think censoring people who have unpopular views, especially when they voice them outside of your show, is taking the low ground. It hurts the integrity of the network who’s trying to present something as real. So I think you will see a lot of support coming in the form of people not liking A&Es decision rather than them backing up Phil’s beliefs.

      • Cat Toon

        Did A&E ever give reason for their decision? I have a hard time believing they would fire him because he hurt their feelings. It’s such a big show that it seems it would have been pressure from sponsors or as you mention a big PR stunt to get more people to watch and comment on the show.

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        the white trash Christian scum in the tea party; yes– that segment of the American public. ask blacks and gays and anyone NOT white trash Christian how they view his comments

      • Brian Maultsby

        This fellow is ignorant get over it. He Is now a fox product. Enjoy his stupidity at will.

      • bill

        why is he ignorant, because he doesn’t think like you. he was asked a question, gave an answer based on how he felt….why is that ignorant.

      • Chaduke

        The part where he talks about the desirability of a vagina vs a mans anus shows a degree of ignorance. He’s obviously never sat down with a gay person and had them honestly explain what its like and how they’ve felt that way their entire lives. Either that or he’s willfully choosing to ignore it and pass it off as demonic possession or some other nonsense, its ignorance just the same.

      • http://www.bergmannity.com/ William Bergmann

        He states specifically that HE doesn’t understand it- in other words, he is professing his ignorance. Which is fine :p

      • Chaduke

        Yes but Bill was asking “why” he was ignorant.

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        what self respecting gay person would wanna sit with that smelly unkempt creep?

      • bill

        that is the stupidest comment on here, so your saying he has to hear how a gay guy like the stink starr of another guy to be informend. I don’t need someone to tell me how much the love sushi to know I don’t want it. again Phil is talking about how he feels about a woman and finds that more desirable than a man.

      • Chaduke

        Were you drunk when you posted this? Phil does not have to BE gay to have a better understanding of gay people.

      • mikestowe

        And it’s comments like yours that remind me how far we have moved from civility. Rather than addressing the context of a post we must attack an individual we do not even know and then stereotype all of those who may agree with him. However, because we target it politically it’s ok… imagine if the same comment was made regarding race – we as Americans really need to consider our own ethic code and evaluate our actions on these forums. More often then not they end up being nothing more than a bunch of hot air spouted by those who haven’t taken the time to research the story, the law, or perhaps even have had a civil discussion with someone they disagree with about the issue.

        The highest form of debate comes from logic, not emotion.

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        stupidity and sociological less-than-stellar looks and probably smell

      • KM

        If bigoted views are expressed from someone employed by A&E there will be consequences…just as, if liberal and anti conservative views are expressed by someone employed by fox news, there will be consequences. There are consequences for both liberal and conservative view points….it just so happens that most companies involved in media realize the best stance is the most inclusive one. Morals aside, the most inclusive position is just a smart business decision.

      • Capone De Leon

        That may be true in MOST cases, but in this case the morals stance is the smart business decision, if you don’t believe me CHECK THE RATINGS! This is not just a highly rated show for A&E it is THE SHOW. They have higher ratings then ALL the other shows on the network combined. It doesn’t make good business sense to bite the hand that feeds you and right now, this show is feeding A&E not the other way around.

      • Morgan Sheridan

        Really? People of all political persuasions face social and employment consequences all the time when what they say goes against the standards of the community and/or the employer! Martin Bashir sure faced major consequences having to resign from his job after his last thing over Palin.

      • James

        Um look up the beating the Dixie Chicks received…

      • L

        I absolutely completely agree with this statement. I’m tired of “conservative” view points when publicly expressed having consequences and “liberal” view points not. Liberals want equality well that means conservatives should be able to express their personal opinions without any ramifications to! That’s what liberals want and expect well conservatives should be allotted the same rights!!!!

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        hey gerbil droppings; olberman…..bashir,,,,Dixie chicks,,, plenty of consequences there————– wouldnt ya say?

      • John Baker

        You never heard of Martin Bashir, I take it…..

      • Duckman33

        Ah yes the big fact that everyone seems to forget. His first amendment rights haven’t been violated. But that doesn’t stop the uneducated folks from screaming they have at the top of their lungs.

      • Gregory Petersen

        Its not about the first amendment. Its about the Q-boys (actually I think they are less offended by words than the”tolerance” and “political correctness” crowd) having hissy fits very time a person voices an opinion that does not fit the progressive movements values because they want the whole world to think just like them.

      • GR

        Enough hissy fits and the value systems can change. That’s their right; just like yours is to hold out the tide until you can’t. And yes I am assuming that the trajectory is simply not in your favor–and yes it is borne out by polling data.

      • Katherine Walton

        No, Gregory. They don’t give a damn if the whole world thinks like them. They simply want an end to the rampant discrimination that exists against them.

      • mikestowe

        Discrimination exists on all sides… I have been the target of it multiple times myself (as a white male)… The problem is not those that fight against discrimination, but those that fight against discriminators by demonizing an entire group, in essence discriminating against them. Tolerance is a too way street, but the truth is most people do not want tolerance, they want acceptance. When they say “don’t judge” or you should be more tolerant what they are really saying is “you should support me.”

        I promise you, had this been the opposite case of an individual stating he believed homosexuality was right, and then fired – this blog would be singing a VERY different tune. Once again, tolerance and discrimination is a one-way street.

      • Chaduke

        Every time you say “Q-boys” you ruin any sort of chance of someone taking you seriously.

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        hey scumbag,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, why not take that rhetroric ” ver batum” to a gym with many large steroid using gay men and see how they respond.

      • William Klabunde

        Any one can express any view they want and the people they work for has freedom also to call them on the carpet, look at the KKK the AMERICAN NAZI PARTY, we even allow American Communist Party to speak freely. I see on the internet people calling for the arrest and execution of the POTUS do you really think that’s not freedom. Just because one wealthy guy gets called on the carpet you can say this is not a free country. Maybe you should redefine you definition of Freedom.

      • Capone De Leon

        I live in San Antonio where they have just changed the law to make it where all businesses have to make all restrooms unisex. So if a Christian business owner does not want to do that, they will be fined. No that is NOT freedom.

      • Glenna Jones-Kachtik

        The non discrimination ordinance has nothing to do with bathroom being unisex. You are reaching. It simply states that a business owner can not refuse to serve someone because they are gay. Period. End of Story. Maybe business owners should worry more about being a business owner than being a Christian Business Owner.

      • Capone De Leon

        My wife spent a year at a cosmetology school where she had to deal with the VERY REAL issue of men in the women’s restrooms, not even surgically altered men, actual full men simply cross dressers. She hated every minute being there and in the end had to opt to either wait to go home or visit other facilities in another building. That is not right for any woman who does not believe this way to have to go through. But hey as long and homosexuals have their rights preserved right?

      • Duckman33

        Blame the cosmetology school that allowed this, not the gays. Moron.

      • mikestowe

        Because a Christian should not have the right to act on their beliefs? They should not have the ability to let their faith guide them? Just curious, is that just for Christians, or all religions in general? Puh-lease.

      • KM

        So I guess you also think business owners should be able to have white bathrooms and “colored” bathrooms….because deciding who has the right to what bathroom is what freedom is all about….is that right?

      • Capone De Leon

        I think, JUST like with this stupid Obamacare, that we should not be FORCED to do anything we don’t want to do. My wife does not feel comfortable any more having to use the facilities with men in them that are just dressed like women. And if a business want to make their women feel comfortable by providing a women only environment yes I think they should be able to do so. That is not something that they are changing, that is how it has been.

      • Chaduke

        If a man is dressing like a woman every day to go to work, there’s a lot more to the story than that. A whole different discussion but if this is something your wife feels uncomfortable about she could maybe do some research, watch some documentaries, etc on trans-gender people. Just a suggestion it might help her feel better about the situation.

      • Capone De Leon

        Are you SERIOUS? She does not have the right to HER privacy? She needs to change correct? She needs to learn about those people and become accepting of it, is that what you are saying?

      • Chaduke

        No, I’m not taking sides on the issue I’m merely making a suggestion for an alternative in case she doesn’t have any other choice. If her discomfort is being caused by the notion that men are dressing up as women to go to work because they want to get a peek at women in the women’s toilet, then that’s absurd. Its understandable and ok, but its a kneejerk emotional response and not logical. Sometimes understanding the motivation these people have to live their lives in the opposite gender as reflected by their physical makeup can help you feel more comfortable with it. I’m only trying to be helpful here, not passing judgement on anyone.

      • Capone De Leon

        She shouldn’t have to deal with that in anyway. Much less be forced to understand anyone’s situation. This is real life it’s sad but it’s true for the most part with the exception of a few shy bladder a man couldn’t care less if women where using the men’s room, but women feel differently and where is the sensitivity for them if we trample all over that. They are outraged at the idea of creating a third transgendered room, but the FACT is they themselves have created a whole 3rd option. They are no longer a man, but they are not truly women either. If they want to create a whole separate gender then they should get their own facilities all to themselves, it’s only fair.

      • Chaduke

        They wouldn’t agree with you on the idea that they “created” it, just as a gay person would tell you they never chose to be gay, or a straight person would tell you they never chose to be hetero. That aside, they belong to a small minority group, and at some point it needs to be looked at in terms of common sense, or what is economically feasible. Somebody is going to end up dealing with what they feel is unfair, and that’s just reality. Sometimes acceptance is how people deal with it. Its not their preferred option but its easier than being pissed all the time.

      • Chipmunk

        I also live in San Antonio. Capone is an idiot and doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Please don’t judge our city!

      • Capone De Leon

        Really Chipmunk, My wife attended Milan School of Cosmetology where as you can image is ground zero for testing this new law. This is what she was dealing with. Cross Dressers wanting and getting access to the women’s restroom. Have you had to deal with this, My Family has. You shouldn’t speak out when you are not aware of the REAL situation.

      • Glenna Jones-Kachtik

        See, this is the thing. NO ONE SAID HE COULDN’T EXPRESS HIS VIEWS. It is a free country. You can say what you want to – when asked or even when not asked. But you are not immune to consequences for expressing them. A & E is his employer. They are free to fire him or suspend him as they see fit. Just as he is free to suspend or fire someone who stated something he disagreed vehemently with or whom he felt blasphemed God.

        It is a free country. He was not locked up. He wasn’t arrested. He owns his own business – what he makes from this TV show isn’t his source of livelihood.
        He really doesn’t need all these people defending him. You defend him because he is Christian but I bet you wouldn’t rush to defend a non-Christian nor even someone who was gay, right?

      • Capone De Leon

        No mam he is not free to fire someone who he believes blasphemed God, he would immediately be sued. That is against the law so why is it not the same in reverse?

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        unless under a contract which stipulated that

      • mikestowe

        Wrong.

      • Katherine Walton

        What part of “he can express them” are you failing to understand? He can stand on a soapbox anywhere in this country and opine to his heart’s content. He is not, however, free of the consequences of his expression. And that has f-all to do with the First Amendment.

      • Adrian

        There are very often consequences for expressing your views, even in a free country. Try calling your boss an asshole to his face and see what consequences you find. If you get fired for insulting your boss, is it no longer a free country? “Free speech” doesn’t mean freedom from all possible consequences; it means freedom from government censorship, and from government penalties (criminal and civil).

        A&E has an image and reputation they have spent a lot of money creating and protecting. What he said quite possibly damaged that reputation, and cost them money. They may have lost viewers, lost advertisers, etc. In a “free country,” should a corporation have to suffer the consequences of what those in its employ say and do, without any means to either force them to behave in a reasonable manner, or punish them for misbehaving?

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        well; how about he SHOULDNT express them UNTIL he understands what MIGHT happen to him by HIS EMPLOYER when his views break the lines drawn by the company who pays him. once he knows; he is back in control and might even say ” this might get me fired but I want to say this anyway”

      • Cat Toon

        He did express them. They were published via freedom of the press.

      • Duckman33

        Um, that was my whole point. What is yours?

      • Madison Blane

        Which means A&E are free to quit providing Phil with a platform! Freedom of speech isn’t freedom from public disapproval or consequences in life; freedom of speech and freedom of religion is freedom from prosecution, jail, and GOVERNMENT harassment! It isn’t NOT freedom from being suspended or fired, or a promise of a reality TV show. If gay people can be fired simply for being gay and straight people can be fired simply because an employer suspects them of being gay, Phil can most certainly be put on hiatus for ignorant, bigoted views that don’t represent his employer!

      • Cat Toon

        But running a media network isn’t free. It costs money. Corporate sponsors provide money. If you alienate your company’s sponsors, the company is free to fire you. If a corporation owned by a Jewish person was a major sponsor, and this guy went on an anti-Semitic rant, he would be fired. Not for his beliefs, but because he made a royally stupid business decision.

      • Gregory Petersen

        Great advice. What business is it of yours what someones opinion is or condemning a person for giving their opinion when it is ASKED of them?

      • Duckman33

        Please show me Gregory, where exactly I said he didn’t have a right to his opinion. Or where I condemned him for it. I don’t seem to recall doing that anywhere on this page.

      • Gregory Petersen

        Better question, Where did I say I was concerned with what happens in the Q-boys bedroom? I can’t care less but what I do care about is the left dictating thought, speech and opinion.

      • Duckman33

        And here’s your answer, moron. I wasn’t replying to you, ignoramus. I was replying to TwoSides when I wrote that. I didn’t accuse you of saying anything. I don’t have to, it’s all here for everyone to see.

        But since you ask. If you aren’t concerned by what they do in the bedroom, why are you so upset? What is it about them that bothers you if it’s not what they do in the sack?

        No-ones dictating thought or speech. He can say whatever he wants. But we don’t all have to agree with it. And A&E as HIS EMPLOYER doesn’t have to agree with it either. Hence he got suspended. Deal with it.

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        hey kreskin,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, where were u when martin bashir was castrated for his comments? the crybabies on FOX ”news” went ballistic

      • John Baker

        So you think Robertson should have the right to state his opinion, but the people who don’t agree with him – or you – shouldn’t. Is that about right?

      • GR

        Who says that the person does not have a right to say their opinion? The media has not said he does not have a right. It does not mean they have to agree with him or to support it by continuing to keep him on the program. Private individuals and private companies can use their words, their wealth, and their power to influence our opinions and values. Sometimes they influence through emotional appeals to one’s morals; sometimes they persuade through logical appeals to one’s pocketbook. It’s all fair and it can get a bit dirty. It is certainly constitutional, just as long as the government is not joining the fray to silence people.

      • Gregory Petersen

        The point is he was asked his opinion and he gave an honest answer. Phil did not get on a soap box to tell anyone how to live or think, he just supplied an answer to a question asked of him

      • GR

        He should take a page out of the actions of modern racists. They realize that they probably will not be accepted by what they say about race–so they talk about the subject more diplomatically recognizing that their morals are not in that respect compatible with the wider ethical system. GQ does not exactly represent Phil’s local community. Regardless of whether he should have known that the people that read the magazine are not of like mind, it is not surprising that he has been punished. People have a right just like him to articulate their opinion and to use their power to influence what opinions we accept in the larger discourse and which should remain the backwaters, and in the comments sections.

      • Brian Frang

        Did you miss the part where he compared homosexuality to beastiality? Yeah, way to not get on his soapbox or insult people, right?

        Your argument is so fragile I’m surprise you could type it without realizing how stupid you sound.

      • Spike Lee

        Did you miss the part where you misread his quote? Good job buddy.

      • Brian Frang

        Except I didn’t. “Phil did not get on a soap box to tell anyone how to live or think”.-Gregory Petersen

        “Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men.” -Phil Robertson

        I call that getting on a soapbox and telling people how to live or think.

      • Spike Lee

        “Did you miss the part where he compared homosexuality to bestiality?” – Brian Frang

        The article conveniently left out the question he was asked, which was, “What do you think is sinful?”

        He answered by listing off things he felt were sinful, which included homosexuality, bestiality, and promiscuity. I’m sure he could have gone on and on, added murder, theft, etc. but he left it at that. That’s not comparing the two, that’s just thinking of them both as sinful.

        It’s his opinion. He was asked it, and he gave it. But of course since he thinks differently than the Liberal agenda wants people to believe, there’s a big storm about it.

      • Chaduke

        I think the storm is mostly coming from conservatives who are upset over A&Es actions. If anything, the liberal agenda won here.

      • 3985

        It would be like a liberal to find fascism perfectly acceptable.

        fas·cism noun ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm also ˈfa-ˌsi-

        : a way of organizing a society in which a government ruled by a dictator controls
        the lives of the people and in which people are not allowed to disagree
        with the government

        : very harsh control or authority
        Full Definition of FASCISM
        1 often capitalized :
        a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti)
        that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands
        for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

      • Chaduke

        I think Phil’s belief system represents fascism far better than even the most extreme liberal agenda.

      • http://www.bergmannity.com/ William Bergmann

        That depends quite a lot on what you define as ‘extreme liberal agenda’, though, doesn’t it?

      • Chaduke

        Yeah I probably shouldn’t have used the word extreme.

      • Chaduke

        To clarify, if we continue down the liberal path I think we’ll end up with something at lot closer to socialism than fascism, but these are political ideologies and are more used as tools to get a grip on a vastly complex system for the sake of discussion and generalization.

      • John Baker

        Thing is, conservatives think socialism *is* fascism. Glen Beck and his magic blackboard said so, and that’s all they need to know.

      • 3985

        Phil merely expressed his personal beliefs. He wasn’t forcing it on anyone.
        But the gay community has now forced the teaching of homosexuality to our children in The California School system. This same community also tried to destroy Chik-a-fila too remember?

      • Chaduke

        No, Phil wasn’t forcing it on anyone in a GQ magazine interview, but I do find it odd that you make that point, considering the fact that Christianity is forced on children all over the world. The “gay community” as you call it does not consist of one big group of homosexuals banding together reveling in their sodomy. Its the majority of civilized society, consisting of all sexual orientations, pointing out that its finally time to end this persecution, largely based on 2000 year old writings by people who were 2000 years dumber than they are today.

      • Jill Grayson

        A&E is not the government so your definition of Fascism does not apply. If he had been arrested or charged with a crime for what he said, you would be right, it would be fascism. He absolutely has a leagl right to say whatever he wants, but so does A&E, and they said “you’re suspended”.

        The government did nothing to him, so it is not fascism you moron!

      • John Baker

        Did your mother raise an idiot, or are you a self-made man? If and when Robertson is arrested and jailed for stating his opinion, then you can talk about fascism. Until then, you’re only showing your ignorance.

      • 3985

        But isn’t is interesting that the homosexual community will try to destroy a person who expresses an opposition to their lifestyle but they don’t say one damn word about what Muslims who murder, hang, behead, or burn alive any homosexuals they find.

      • Spike Lee

        Yes, the Liberal agenda won out with A&E’s actions and the reasonable people of the world are speaking out against their actions.

      • Chaduke

        I think its heavily debatable on whether people are getting behind Phil Robertson on the basis of reason.

      • Spike Lee

        They are backing him because a person expressing their religious beliefs in an interview should not be a fireable offense.

      • AJane

        Unless it’s not apart of your job or it’s contractually forbidden. It’s a JOB he has the right to be suspended for any reason. In Nevada an employer could decide after 20 years of faithful employment that you “smell funny”, or some other absurdity and you can be fired immediately.

      • Spike Lee

        No they can’t. That’s a terrible example and the employer would be sued.

      • Cat Toon

        As long as the employer can prove the termination was not discriminatory, they can fire you for any reason or no reason under the Employment At-Will doctrine that all states except Montana adhere to. He could try to sue based on religious discrimination, but A&E didn’t fired him because he hurt their collective feelings. They knew what he was about. Chances are major sponsors threatened to take their money elsewhere because they didn’t want to be associated with this guy. They can fire you for being a liability. I think the top comment hit the nail on the head in the sense that what were his handlers and PR folk thinking letting him answer those malicious questions in the way he did? Just sad from that perspective.

      • True Believer

        but it was discrimination and we all know it.

      • Tobias B. Santa

        Oh please, his being suspended was not discrimination.

      • William Dean Luke

        WHy? Because he’s straight and shared his opinion/belief that being LGBT is sinful?

        Let’s flip the situation..If he were gay, and had been asked what his thoughts are on the Straight, Conservative theists, and he said “I think it’s wrong, and sinful to be judgmental of someone based on their sexual preference or gender identity”, he wouldn’t have been fired. He’d have been praised by the LGBT community because he shares their ~opinion~, but because he’s a Conservative Christian, his opinion is somehow grounds for termination?

        We’re talking about a serious double-standard here.

        “It’s okay to be a Straight, Conservative Christian, but don’t talk about it or you’ll get fired from your job. But, if you’re a member of the LGBT community, go ahead and flaunt it, share your opinion, and be proud of it, there’s nothing anyone can do about it!”

      • Brian Frang

        If the person who made that comment worked for a company with extremely right-wing viewpoints, they WOULD be fired. And it would STILL be totally legal for them to do. Firing them for being GAY or their religion is wrong, firing someone for being openly against your political views and a possible liability to your company is NOT wrong. They KNEW what Robertson was all about when they hired him, they had a prayer closing every show, this was NOT about his religion, it was about him expressing POLITICAL views, AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF A&E, that COST THE COMPANY AD REVENUE. PERIOD.

      • William Dean Luke

        Name one of those things that was a political view, and not a personal, religious view. Dare ya.

      • Spike Lee

        EAW is something that must be agreed to before an employee takes a job and doesn’t apply to every position out there. In most cases, a “just cause” is needed to fire an employee. My point is the example given by AJane is silly.

      • TxSonofLiberty

        Actually, the show’s major Sponsor, Under Armor, is siding with Phil, and continue to sponsor the Family and support the family’s boycott.

      • curtis olson

        unfortunately there are certain states referred to as “right to work” states of which florida is one i know… i have lived here over 20 years and in florida an employer can fire you at anytime for any reason or no reason at all and you have absolutely no recourse by the same token in florida you can still be fired for “talking union” with another employee

      • Spike Lee

        Oh good. Another reason to stay far away from Florida.

      • William Dean Luke

        It wasn’t contractually forbidden for him to discuss his personal beliefs, Especially when he was asked questions about his beliefs and what he thinks is sinful by GQ magazine. He was asked an honest question, he gave an honest answer, so he should lose his job for being honest? Am I missing something here, or has the whole world gone completely bananas? I mean..if someone who is liberal decided to answer a similar question with “I believe that being straight is wrong..”, they’d not be lambasted, in fact, they’d probably be praised for it.

        It’s like saying “It’s okay to be straight, but don’t talk about it, or share your opinion on being LGBT, but if you’re LGBT, go ahead and flaunt it and share your opinion with everyone without fear of repercussions”

        It’s a shitty double-standard, and it needs to be handled.

      • Kevin Allen

        it will hurt where it hurts A@E most. In her Friggin Wallet $$$$$$$$

      • mb

        The liberal agenda must be a bunch of faggs. Just remember that the function of the human anus is to let out the feces from the body during an act of defecation. Any other use of it is just wrong, and you all know it!

      • John Baker

        Well, that’s certainly a compelling, well thought out argument……

      • Chaduke

        Yeah well take it up with God, he’s the one who built the playground in the middle of the sewer.

      • TxSonofLiberty

        He was asked, he answered.

        We each are on a soapbox, we weren’t asked our opinions on this matter, we came here and submitted our opinions unsolicited.

        Phil was solicited his opinion by GQ.

        In addition, while his opinion is not one that is universally agreed upon, many people think one sin is no different in level then any other.

        I’m going to clear up something, and state facts:

        By the Judeo-Christian Bible, Homosexuality, is NOT as sin. The act of feeling love is not a sin, and gender is not an issue when it comes to the love.

        Sex, of any sort,IS actually a Sin.
        Yes, Homosexual Sex, Heterosexual Sex, Sex with Corpses, Sex with yourself, Sex with an inanimate object, Sex outside your species, Sex in odd positions, Sex on the Beach, Sex with Drugs and Rock and Roll, all are sins… UNLESS the sex is for the intent of procreation. This is where the issue comes, since Homosexual Sex, as far as we know, can never produce an offspring, and therefore the sexual acts are Sins.

        Now, many members of the cloth (Priests, Ministers, Rabbis, Nuns, Abbots, etc) like to invoke something that are called religious fences… these are advice to not do something that is okay, because it will either lead to something sinful or be mistaken for sinful, and it is in these Fences that Homosexuality gets declared a sin, similar to how Rabbis tell Jews to not eat Chicken and Cheese Sandwiches (I am not comparing the two as levels, but in the fact they are both common and easy to example cases of fences) because 1) Someone seeing you eating the Chicken and Cheese might think you’re eating Beef and Cheese and 2) If you taste Chicken and Cheese, you might think that Beef and Cheese can’t be much worse and end up slipping and eating Beef and Cheese. In the case of Homosexuality, dating and marrying someone of the same gender is not a sin, but 1) someone seeing you hugging and kissing your same-gender significant other (this covers, boyfriend, girlfriend, either version of spouse, and fiance) might think you’re having sex and therefore sinning,, and 2) You might get excited and one thing might lead to another and you might have sex and therefore sin.

      • Tobias B. Santa

        He was asked what he thought was wrong with America. He could have just said, “Well, I think people need to be more Godly” or something like that. He did not need to go into such detail regarding anuses or equate promiscuity with bestiality. Loving someone of the same sex does not make you sexually attracted to an animal, either.

      • TxSonofLiberty

        He was asked his opinion, and actually, he listed what he religious beliefs are. See, in some people’s eyes, all sins have the same weight, especially when all three are actually the same sin. Promiscuity, Bestiality, and Homosexual Relations (not the love, but the sex) are all Having Sex without the intent of creating an offspring. End of story. There is no equating anything, they ARE the same. They’re the act of ‘Killing a nation’, as is masturbation. The original concept is, that while the odds aren’t likely that you will have a million children from one spilling of seed, you still guarantee that all million won’t be born, while one ejaculation in the intent to create a child, could create twins, triplets, or possibly more, and the intention is to create at least one new life.

        Sure, he could have beat around the bush, but as a duck hunter, he knows beating around the bush doesn’t work very well, so he shot straight and true and called a duck a duck.

      • alwol

        It is all just very sad for both sides. A&E doesn’t have to lift the suspension, but I hope they do anyway. I understand what Phil Robertson said sounded awful, but it has also been twisted so many ways. He believes that homosexuality is a sin, like some Christians do, but he isn’t leading some campaign against it. He believes that everyone is a sinner, and all sins are judged by God. He did not say that homosexuals are the worst sinners or anything like that. If he calls us all sinners should we all be angry? I’m sure that Phil Robertson must be struggling emotionally right now, but my guess is that whether you are homosexual, straight, black, white, young, old, fat, thin, promiscuous, smart, dumb, male, female, supporting him, speaking out against him, or even if you feel funny whenever you see a sheep with that come-hither look in it’s eyes, he loves you. This is another lesson from the Bible. We can label his beliefs “hate”, but that is not what they are. Christians are taught not to judge. They do not hate sinners; they just believe in sin. Phil Robertson believes he will be judged right along with the homosexuals and you and I. I have not said whether I am homosexual or straight. I have also not said whether or not I share his religious views. Neither is relevant. I just wanted to point out that this man who is being hated by so many people right now, probably loves them all still. I am not angry or looking for an argument about my post. There is no need for one. I am just one person, and you shouldn’t let what I think affect you or bring you down. We can disagree and still respect each other’s opinion.

      • Kevin Allen

        he did not compare homo-sexuallity to Beastiallity, he stated both were sins ahole, learn how to read

      • Damien Roberts

        That is a fucking comparison dumb ass.

      • Kevin Allen

        fuck you fat ass

      • Damien Roberts

        The fact that you just called someone who falls exactly where they should be on the weight/height index proves what a fucking idiot you are. Congrats.

      • Kevin Allen

        thanks you piece of shit!!1 you made my day!! Dickhead!

      • Damien Roberts

        Merry Christmas. God bless!

      • Brian Frang

        “Start from homosexuality and just morph out from there.” Regardless of the question he was asked, he is CLEARLY implying that homosexuality LEADS to these other sins. Why don’t YOU learn to read, asshole.

      • Kevin Allen

        fuck you brian, eat shit you left wing dick

      • Todd Nettles

        You are EXACTLY RIGHT. What you seem to be missing though, is the fact that he did it as “Phil Robertoson, Star of A&E’s hit “Reality” series, Duck Dynasty” without any clauses at all stating that although he is in essence an extension of the network (like it or not), his views and/or opinions are not necessarily shared by A&E. Mr. Robertson was not prevented from exercising his right to free speech. It does seem as though many are in favor of allowing his employer to do the same. Why should it be one sided. Suppose the things were switched… Say, Mr. Robertson said God is non-existant and anyone who preaches otherwise is a complete idiot and illogical. Then, just suppose A&E suspended him for that. Would you still feel like his rights had been ripped from him? I highly doubt it.

      • tb

        I’d love to see Phil Robertson’s employment contract with A&E.

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        or his new unemployment forms he has to fill out

      • TxSonofLiberty

        Yes. A&E isn’t saying “We disagree with the views of Phil Robertson, and his views do not represent this network”… that would be them speaking freely. They are suspending him based on his religious beliefs, which is illegal. I support his right to speak his mind. He is not saying “Go castrate homosexuals” nor is he saying, “Put Blacks in chains and make them sing in the fields”, he said he never saw Blacks being oppressed and he did see them being happy, and he said that while he knows homosexuality is a sin, it isn’t his place to judge, that is G-D’s place, and he like G-D loves everyone no matter if they are a sinner by one sin or another.

      • Tobias B. Santa

        He was not suspended for his religious beliefs. Did you miss the part where he said blacks were happier under Jim Crow? He was suspended for his comments, not his religion.

      • TxSonofLiberty

        He didn’t say they were happier, he said he never saw any abused, never heard any complain, and that they were G-Dly and never were singing the blues.

        He was either suspended for his happy memories or his religious views. Either way, he was just speaking honestly, and he was ASKED.

        I’ve got real bad news for most people, people over a certain age aren’t going to remember the events of history the same way they’re depicted by the media or even recounted by the person that was standing next to them.

        My grandmother had a mammy, she’d have been 93 (a whole 2.5 decades older then Phil), and she too had positive memories of Negros (the polite term of that time) or Schratz (The Yiddish term for Black) growing up, being happy. See, people miss the point that not everyone was unhappy, that some were quite elated to not be slaves.

        Did you feel deprived growing up? How did you ever get by without a cellphone? You had to read books? You couldn’t just have information download into your cortex receiver?

        Even now, each generation thinks the older generations were deprived or oppressed in some ways. It is funny that Irish Slaves were treated far worse then Black Slaves ever were, that Jews have been bigoted for thousands of years and have been fighting persecution and slander the entire time, and yet all the uproar is about a few centuries of slavery, and a few decades of oppression. Not everyone was as miserable, partly because some were happy, ignorant that there was an option for better, maybe Phil was lucky enough to only know folks that were happy.

      • Kevin Allen

        you left wing god hating liberals would love it, if he said that and you have him on front for your organizations as head of the anti-christian-anti-Christmas campaigns. you make me sick!

      • Adrian

        As far as we all know, @Duckman33:disqus wasn’t involved in the decision to suspend Robertson. But you (meaning anyone, not you in particular) are free to be offended by whatever you find offensive, and to voice your complaints to the offenders, in this case, perhaps A&E. Maybe A&E just didn’t want to face a huge blacklash and public relations nightmare by letting a de facto spokesperson say something many would find highly offensive, and which might influence them to stop watching A&E, leading to lower ratings, lower ad revenues, etc.

        Have you ever heard the expression, “Some things are better left unsaid”? Or maybe, “If you can’t say anything nice, don’t say anything at all”? Perhaps Robertson wouldn’t be in this position if he had heeded that advice. Nobody held a gun to his head and forced him to answer.

      • btqm

        @Adrian: Robertson didn’t say nothing bad or offensive. A&E must be full of queers and got offended, Queers, Queers, Queers everywhere!! And now, we all have to agree with them, if not we are being called homophobes.:-/

      • Adrian

        You’re wrong. When you lump homosexuality in with bestiality, you’re equating them, saying that one’s as bad as the other. And, to many, that’s offensive. Homosexual conduct between two consenting adults is different than sexual contact with an animal incapable of giving consent.

        Nor do you “have to agree with them.” You don’t have to practice homosexuality anymore than you have to practice interracial marriage. But if you say people shouldn’t do it, shouldn’t have the right to do it, and it’s wrong, then you’re a racist. If you just think it, then you’re still a racist, but at least not everyone knows you are one. Some things are better left unsaid. The same goes with any bigoted thoughts – you’re free to think them, and even to express them, but don’t expect everyone to like what you have to say, and to reward you for saying it.

        Also, A&E is a business, and has to make money. If they had not done anything to Robertson, that would have likely been seen as a tacit endorsement of his views, which could financially hurt them. A&E is jointly owned by Hearst, a privately-owned media company, and Disney, which is publicly traded. So anyone who owns Disney stock might not be happy to have their stock go down because of what some ignorant person from a tv show said, which may have caused sponsors and advertisers to pull their support because they don’t want to be associated with those types of comments. And, you’re also overlooking that he said blacks were happy and better off under Jim Crow, which many people also find offensive.

      • curtis olson

        no your not just a homophobe… you my friend ars a bad joke and one of the best reasons i can think of for sterilizing idiots as soon as there discovered in order to repress the idiot gene and keep it from replicating…unfortunately you probly come from a long line of idiots

      • Randall LeBoy

        right on people are to hung up what someone said. instead how about worrying about what our country is doing in Washington

      • Stevie Thaxton

        But they want to force their lifestyle upon us. We must agree with it, and say nothing against it. I say let them have civil unions, and it is between them, & God Almighty! I would not want to be Gay. I’m married to a black woman, & I’m a white man. I love woman in general. Another thing, they try to make their lifestyle into a race card, and that is not right neither.

      • Sarah

        “They want to force their lifestyle upon us.” Oh, is that so? Listen, I know a ton of gay people and never once has a single one of them ever tried to force me to take part in homosexual activities. They’re not trying to turn everyone gay, or corrupt the youth, or what have you. They’re just trying to get the same rights that heterosexuals have always enjoyed.

      • Duckman33

        Last time I checked, no one’s forcing you to marry a man or date a man or even have sex with a man. How exactly are they FORCING you to be gay?

      • Gregory Petersen

        He did not say that but you liberal anus brains have a way of distorting a conservatives word. They are forcing their lifestyle of acceptance for something that many feel is not acceptable behavior. Forcing a lifestyle not speaking ones beliefs if it is contrary to the the leftist anus brain liberals ideals.

      • Shon Burch

        and apparently you would force your lifestyle on them? you demand to have your ways respected, but you will not respect the ways of another. funny.

      • Guest

        Apparently, it’s OK to force everyone to he straight, though…

      • Brian Frang

        Pretty sure that’s the same point he was making. No one has a right to force their lifestyle on another person. Robertson is totally within his rights to believe homosexuality is immoral, and free to express those opinions. HOWEVER, he, nor ANY citizen has the right to tell another citizen that they don’t deserve equal rights, and EVERY citizen has the same rights to their opinions and the same right to express them, so it’s perfectly within MY first amendment rights to say Phil Robertson is a homophobic piece of shit that deserves to die in a car fire. The ONLY thing that the first amendment protects him from is being sent to jail for having those opinions.

      • Gregory Petersen

        Who is doing that?

      • Gregory Petersen

        I don’t demand or force anything from most people and those that I do demand from, I only demand what is rightfully mine. I don’t care what the Q-boys do but I will not let the progressives bully me into changing my opinion and like I have mentioned, It is not so much the Q-boys who are making the stink, it is the progressive liberals and their phony “tolerance campaign”. Oh, and all the sheeple who lack the intelligence to think for themselves.

      • Duckman33

        ” Oh, and all the sheeple who lack the intelligence to think for themselves.”

        Says the guy who watches FAUX NEWZ and most likely listens to Glenn Beck, and Rush “the drug addict” Limbaugh!!

      • Adam

        I fail to see how coming up with a lame insult helps your argument.

      • Duckman33

        Dude you’re just a damn fool. Shut up, seriously. I didn’t twist anything I took his words as he spoke them. I’m no magical word smith that can make someone sound like they are saying something else.

      • Katherine Walton

        Wow, you sure are obsessed with anuses. Projection much?

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        well; greggie poo cannot get laid so he is expanding his fanatsies

      • Glenna Jones-Kachtik

        But it is CIVIL RIGHTS, Gregory. Civil rights are supposed to apply to each & every American Citizen no matter what religion they are or aren’t.

        Many who feel it is not acceptable behavior believe so from a religious standpoint. We are NOT supposed to be ruled by a religion.
        If you deny people civil rights because it isn’t “felt to be acceptable by some people because of religion” then you defeat the purpose to the constitution of the USA.

        It has little or nothing to do with conservative or liberal…I will leave out the rest of your nasty rant because they have little or nothing to do with the REAL issue. It is CIVIL RIGHTS – nothing else.

      • Andrew Victor Noce

        You are quite the name-caller on here. U MAD BRO?

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        greggie needs his pampers changed! he seems very chafed

      • Stevie Thaxton

        It’s about them doing it, and those who do not agree with them cannot say a darn thing to them. Good example, Phil Robertson. He was not being derogatory just stating, his morals, & beliefs.

      • GR

        So why aren’t more Republicans pushing for civil union legislation that would provide totally equal rights for gays who enter civil unions as for straight people getting married. It never was an assault on your religion; it was always an assault against the unequal treatment of gays under the law.

      • AniZaeger

        And yet, it’s perfectly fine for heterosexuals to force their lifestyle onto homosexuals. It’s funny how many times I’ve heard bigots say that if gays want to get married, they can marry someone of the opposite sex like “everyone else”. So please tell me again, who exactly is forcing whose lifestyle onto others? I can tell you with absolute certainty that if you think its “the gays”, you are either too blind or too stupid to see the truth.

      • Stevie Thaxton

        How does heterosexuals force their lifestyle upon homosexuals? We do not go tell them not to be together. Also, two men together can not reproduce a baby without outside service nor two woman together. I understand heterosexuals couple one made not be able to have a baby. Finally, you do not make your point by using derogatory statements. Gays do force their views upon us. You speak out against them they get upset at us.

      • http://www.redheadedfemme.com/ BB-Mystic

        How does heterosexuals force their lifestyle upon homosexuals? We do not go tell them not to be together.

        I can’t believe such ignorance. How about little things like, only in FIFTEEN STATES can gay people legally get married? How about the fact that Texas’ sodomy statute was only overturned by the Supreme Court in 2003? (Lawrence vs. Texas) Until then, same-sex sexual activity was ILLEGAL in Texas and other states.

        Gay people are only asking for the same rights heterosexual people have.

      • Glenna Jones-Kachtik

        Yeah & how about some of the people running for office who wanted to bring back the sodomy laws – up to & including for heterosexuals…it also included oral sex, I believe?
        I was really glad he lost his bid for governor.

      • Glenna Jones-Kachtik

        Well, when they speak out against them, they get upset – do you ever thing that when YOU speak out against them, they might get upset too?
        As for 2 men together not being able to produce a baby nor 2 women together….There are, believe it or not also heterosexual couples who cannot produce nor even WANT to produce a baby. I know 2 men in my church – both white – who adopted a black child. They love her. They provide her with the same values, love & family that the men/women marriages in our congregation do. She is growing up into a lovely young woman. We also have 2 women who are raising their children with the same results. There is also a widow who is bringing up 4 lovely girls. & there is a grandmother raising 3 of her sons children. FAMILY is a place where people love each other, no matter what. Where they stand up for each other – it is so much more than just 1 man + 1 woman & kids.

      • Morgan Sheridan

        Seriously. My husband and I never wanted children when we got married 28 years ago. That’s not why we got married to each other. But we’re a family of two, nevertheless.

      • Morgan Sheridan

        I’m voting for “too stupid,” myself.

      • Adam

        Asking for the same rights that heterosexuals enjoy in this country isn’t “forcing their lifestyle” upon anyone. This isn’t a “lifestyle” issue; it’s a civil rights issue. The denial of rights to any particular social group troubles me, and I’m surprised it doesn’t bother more people.

      • Glenna Jones-Kachtik

        “They want to force their lifestyle upon us?” I have never had a gay friend tell me I had to be gay. I have never had a gay person tell me that I had to believe just like they did. I have had so called Christians tell me I am going to hell & that I needed to believe just like they do.

        What does it matter to you if they are married or have a civil union? Their union – whichever it is – is still between them & GOD. The fact that you are a white man, married to a white woman means nothing. The fact that you love women, means nothing. It is enough for me to believe that you have a good marriage, that you love your wife & that you are faithful to her. I wish the same thing for all my gay friends. If you think they try to make their lifestyle into a race card – it might just be what you think & not a true statement.

      • Morgan Sheridan

        No they don’t want to force their lifestyle on you. They know you’re straight and because you’re straight, they’re not wired for you or anyone like you! They don’t want you sexually. They don’t want you as a lover. They don’t want you to kiss. They don’t want you as a love interest. They don’t want you to be gay for them. They simply don’t care. But the reality is that they are being discriminated against, beaten and killed because of the one immutable thing about them that’s different and that, Stevie, IS a civil rights issue. It is a human rights issue. And that’s great for you that you married a lovely black woman. But your marriage isn’t going to be materially affected by gay marriage. You’re not bloodied and wounded and broken on the streets because gay men or women want to marry each other. If it was gonna happen, it already would have after the first state legalized marriage equality. And it didn’t.

      • God loves EVERYONE

        Because in the Bible it tells us to go and preach the gospel. Tell everyone what the gospel is. So that they can have eternal life through Jesus Christ our lord. Christians do not hate gay people like everyone is leading people to believe. But we do not like the sin. We are taught to show love to everyone. To show God’s love through us. Phil said what he did because he cares for them.

      • GR

        The Bible makes me want to have a time machine, so I can go back to the moment when the Bible was about to be mass produced, and to alter the pieces about spreading the gospel. Why can’t you guys be more like the Jews? They keep to themselves. It’s not like people would be absent of morality without the gospel.

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        im screwing mary magdalen before I return: and im coming back with a moa and a dinosaur to make me wealthy

      • Duckman33

        The Bible is a book of fairy tales used to control and manipulate the public.

      • Stevie Thaxton

        What about all other religion beliefs then? Are they fairy tales also? Be careful how you call out certain religions some have fund mental believers.

      • Duckman33

        All religion is hogwash. It’s all about control and fear.

        “Fear the lord or you will BURN IN HELL!!”

        No thanks pal, that’s not any type of god I want to follow. Sounds more like a angry stalker to me.

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        just remember: GOD is waaaaay too big to be defined by any man made religion!! RELIGION is simply a profit and control mechanism

      • Glenna Jones-Kachtik

        Out of all the religions only the Abrahamic ones are adamant about their holy book being TRUE.

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        yes,all religions are garbage,,,,,,,,,now: there are great things within some teachings of all religions!!! BUT——–religion is used by shrwed people to make money off of lemmings

      • woodka

        The Bible also says to pray in private. And to judge not lest ye be judged. So, he got judged by his employer for judging, ok?

      • Katherine Walton

        Horsesh*t.

      • Morgan Sheridan

        You may go out an preach, but we also have the right to walk away from you when what you preach offends our sensibilities. I don’t embrace your fairy tale.

      • Heather

        Because the gay community believes we ought to agree with their lifestyles even though they openly do not agree with ours.

      • Duckman33

        This is probably the single most idiotic statement I have read on here today. What on earth made you think that gays openly do not agree with heterosexual lifestyle? Or are you saying they don’t like Christians. I’ll have you know I have a few gay friends who are also Christians and go to church and worship. So you can just throw that theory right out of the window.

      • Glenna Jones-Kachtik

        But then again, I guess there is something about having their rights trampled on openly for more years than you know. Forced into the closet. Forced to live a lie. Forced to not be whom they really are in order to keep jobs. Look at Rock Hudson. Gay for all his life. Unable to be who he was because it would have meant the end of his career. So you think they should go back to that – because them being open makes YOU uncomfortable. They don’t expect you to agree with their lifestyle but what they would like is for you to BUTT OUT of their choices. Just let them live their lives – equal to you, They want the same rights as you have & believe it or not, they ARE just like you. They aren’t an alien species, you know.

      • JWH

        It isn’t that gay people do not agree with your lifestyle. They just do not like being put down for what they are. What if the table was turned? What if it was bad to be straight, not gay? What would it be like for you then? It would suck. Would you be able to just choose to like the same sex if you were told to? Life is hard for everyone usually, and there is no need to make it any harder for other people. Some people were raised to believe it is a sin. So what? Then believe what you believe, you still don’t have to put someone else down about what they are.

      • Andrew Victor Noce

        The difference is that your lifestyle is about judgement and intolerance.They just want to live their life without being persecuted and being treated like less than human.

      • Duck man jr

        GQ asked the question..maybe you should write them a letter. GQ was poking a horses ass…of course it is going to buck.

      • Brian Frang

        I used to work for Wal-Mart. I knew from day one that if I expressed any liberal opinions, EVEN IF ASKED DIRECTLY, I could lose my job over it, so I declined to comment. Phil Robertson should have done the same, or simply said “I don’t agree with it.”, and left it at that. He CHOSE to compare homosexuality to beastiality, and he CHOSE to be nasty towards homosexuals, so we have every right to CHOOSE to insult and belittle him in return.

      • Duckman33

        Way to avoid providing an answer.

      • Joe Zambrano

        Duckie, fair point, but they asked him a question – if you don’t want the answer – don’t ask the question. By coming to this website I knew I was entering the “I’m smarter than you” club. Even the title “forward thinking” – are you saying that someone who disagrees is not forward thinking or their backwards? I have no issue with gays or gay marriage – but I have an issue with people attacking someone for their beliefs – and he did not attack! They asked his thoughts and he shared – he is entitled to that just as you are, this site and every left wing or right wing friend that I have.

      • Adrian

        Well, as someone else on here said, he was apparently asked what he thought was sinful, and he could have answered murder, adultery, theft, etc. Or he could have declined to answer. He chose, instead, to focus on homosexuality, and then to lump it together with bestiality and promiscuity. Just because he was asked a question doesn’t mean he should think he’s been given carte blanche to say whatever he wants with no repercussions.

      • matt

        It affects me when my city has had a pride week and pride parade for 30 years to celebrate the city and a group of fags say they can only have pride week. Now our parade is called a celebration of something or rather. They got what they wanted and its crap. Fags and other minorities get their way with everything. But if we say something we are a bigot or a racist. We have a double standards in this country and it only gets worse every day POS Obama is in office.

      • Duckman33

        LAME! Remember that when there’s a veteran’s day parade. Only veterans can be involved in that!! Those damn filthy veterans wanting special treatment! How DARE they!!!

      • matt

        You didn’t read my post very well. I said that we can’t call it pride week anymore because that’s all for the gays now. And you are an utter waste of human life bashing vets like that. We had to let the gays have pride week. Why can’t we still use pride week? And FYI our vets get shit on by the government while the flamboyant gays get their way. If you are a gay atheist you have the most power.

      • Duckman33

        You need to work on your sarcasm meter a little bit if you think I was serious about what I said about the vets. dumbass. I dont know why you can’t call it pride week, why don’t you ask your mayor instead of bitching to a total stranger on the internet about it?

      • matt

        I understand sarcasm but I come from a military family and that is very dear to me. As far as talking to a Mayor its useless. They are all politicians. They only want what’s good for them. As far as arguing with a stranger goes I just like debating stuff. Free speech and all. Even if I’m not right I still respect what others say even if I don’t agree. I’m just a very outspoken and stuck in my ways

      • Jim Bean

        Why do you care if someone expresses a distasted for homosexuality? What are the damages that you’ve suffered as a result?

      • Duckman33

        I don’t, but claiming that being homosexual leads to bestiality is the most ignorant thing to say that I can think of.

      • karenbrown65

        You have the right to believe what you want, but nobody has the ‘right’ to a tv show.

      • GR

        Here is the thing, it’s not you making an opinion about behavior in this country. It is you stating that you hate people for what they were born as. We punish the opinion of such people when they say things like that about blacks, or any other race. We even punish people when they say things like that about people who have disabilities. Our value system does not tolerate such opinions. You can have whatever opinion you want, but that doesnt mean that people won’t punish you for things that we have fundamentally rejected as a people. No religious cloak will protect someone when they say blacks are descendants of Cain; and similarly, no religion can protect the belittling of a people merely because they were born into a certain category the bible disproves of.

      • EnlightenedEgo2

        I feel so bad for your children–forced to inherit your points of view and opinions. What makes you think you have the right to choose your children’s beliefs? Are we not ALL free men? With less parents like you around perhaps these nonsensical “traditions” will finally go away. One day your children will look up from their books and realize they’ve been lied to. I wish I could see the looks on their faces when that day comes.

      • Jay Cutter

        “You know the old saying that there are two sides to every story”

        No. There isn’t.

      • Ursula Crawford

        The thing is, you can’t respect someone’s choices when they’re not choices. It’s who you are. Not who you chose to be. And who you are isn’t something that’s right or wrong. It just is. Some people have blue eyes. That’s not a choice. Blue eyes aren’t something that’s right or wrong for you or for your children. They just are. I understand where you’re coming from and I do agree, the name calling must stop, on both sides. However, being gay isn’t a choice. Some people have blue eyes. Some people have red hair. Some people are gay. It’s something you’re born with, not something you chose.

      • Glenna Jones-Kachtik

        Well, he IS a Pentecostal preacher, right? I didn’t see that Joe said anything about you or your kids. Doesn’t Phil bill himself as a conservative Christian redneck? It is strange to me that people feel the need to put themselves out there on reality TV or that anyone wants to sit & watch people be REAL…You apparently have kids – so be with them.

        You wouldn’t mistreat someone because of their sexual orientation but you wouldn’t support it….just what the hell does that mean. You don’t approve of them marrying? As a heterosexual, you have 1,000+ more civil rights than any homosexual does – do you think you don’t mistreat them? I would hate to see your idea of mistreatment…. What would you do if one of YOUR kids told you they were homosexual?

      • Johnny Leverett

        I agree

      • robin

        The whole “conservative Christian redneck” phrase is bothersome. According to Webster a redneck is “a white person who lives in a small town or in the country especially in the southern U.S., who typically has a working-class job, and who is seen by others as being uneducated and having opinions and attitudes that are offensive”. Phil Robertson is not and has not been for several years had a working class job and is certainly not uneducated.

        Perhaps his opinion of what sin is as Spike Lee said in a later post does not represent that of many but does represent, yes, most conservative Christians. If they are not your view then feel free to disagree. If they match up with your beliefs then agree. Either way we, Christian or not, if looking at the Bible for answers, New Testament, ” Mat 7:1-5 “Judge not, that ye be not judged [do not judge others if you do not want to be judged by others; everyone will be judged by God]. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again [if you judge others, they will judge you by the same measures]. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye [how can you judge someone when you are guilty of the sin yourself]? Thou hypocrite [this is the audience in the context; a hypocrite is one who is not living what he is preaching], first cast out the beam out of thine own eye [FIRST judge yourself and get your own life cleaned up]; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye [THEN after you get your life straight, you will be able to discern clearly and you are commanded to help clean your brother’s eye!].

        I don’t know of anyone who has ever spoke that has not offended someone with their opinions, including Jesus who was not only persecuted but killed for his beliefs and speaking up.

        If A&E does not agree with Phil Robertson’s opinion that he was asked for and no longer wants to have him associated with there station then so be it. If this is the case then A&E should publicly make that statement (which they may have done and I am not aware of it) and be done with it. For the private interest parties to use his comments as fuel for the fire to condemn conservative Christian views or vice versa then it is up to America to make, hopefully, educated and informed decisions as to whether they agree or disagree.

        The Issue I see with many of the comments made here is they are strictly one sided. We all have our own opinion but we refuse to look at other peoples opinion and take time to consider they may have a valid point in their opinion as well. You may not agree with it but it could be just as valid as yours. His opinion does not make like or dislike him more or less. It is not going to influence whether I watch the show or not. When asked what in his opinion sin is, he gave his opinion: homosexuality, bestiality, promiscuity, etc. I personally do not see where he says homosexuality morphs into bestiality but rather “Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there.” He does not say homosexuality leads to promiscuity, I have several friends who are gay and none of them are going to be sleeping with any woman and especially not many women.

        Mr. Robertson answered the question he was asked. Period.If you don’t like, as obviously many don’t, don’t watch him. If you don’t like the liberal media, don’t watch it. You are the only one can control your what you watch or don’t watch (unless the local game is blacked in your area).
        I had a choice of reading these post and replying or not, MY CHOICE. No one made me. I did not do it because of anger, just curiosity. I enjoy educated dialogue but unfortunately find it hard to come by. Will I return see the replies to my post, probably not because I have spent too much time already that I can not recover. Time from family and friends that has been lost simply because I chose to respond to what I felt was a statement that has infuriated both sides of argument that may never be resolved due to emotions instead of logical calm discussions.

    • Justin Marcantel

      Even as a Christian, I actually agree with this. A&E knew his belief system all along. He wasn’t even just venting his beliefs with no provocation. He was asked his views and if he had supported the LGBT lifestyle, it would have been hypocritical to his faith. The Bible is either truth or it is a lie. I get that the secular world does not understand some of our beliefs. What I don’t get is that they are still surprised every time they ask us what our views are. It will be the same as it always has been.

      • AGNOSTIC

        The bible has proven to contain many falsehoods and lies as it was written and re-written and edited and -reedited so many times. They don’t call it the King James bible cause its a catchy title. if you would like an example of just one proven lie, the earth is older than 6-7k years old. dinosaurs did not hang with Jesus. In all reality, anyone and i mean anyone that claims that they know for a fact what happens when we die, is a LIAR. The most honest, humble answer anyone could have is, ” I don’t know” claiming certainty is fooling yourself and is destructive to our entire race. You are Christian becuase of the geographical location in which you were born and raised. had you been born in turkey, youd be muslim, china Buddhist, ect. people need to grow up, and accept the fact that 1, we all die, and 2, no one knows for sure what that means after it happens. Claiming that you do, makes you a LIAR believing it, makes you mentally ill.

      • An opinion

        Your funny my friend, you clearly don’t know what faith is. I don’t need proof. I don’t need numbers a scientists comes up with. I have all the information I need and it’s in the bible. I’m not sure why you thought Christians would think dinos would walk with Jesus or where we are born has anything to do with what religion. Almost every continent has Christianity on it as well as Buddhism and Many other religions. I’m probably pissing you off with all this. I honestly don’t mean to make you mad. I just had to say something

      • GR

        This is the most exhausting time of conversation. Don’t bother. You can’t convince people when you don’t share the same starting point for discussion. If rational thought and science can’t be brought into the playing field, what are you going to do? All you can do is build a wide enough coalition that represents your views to make sure policy decisions are not driven by people who’s framework is that incompatible to yours.

      • Ann

        Honestly, the Bible can’t be “either a truth or a lie” because there are a lot of things in there that contradict each other. I’m a Christian and I can see this!

      • Chaduke

        The Bible is a collection of many different books by many different authors in different languages selected, translated and compiled into a single book by a group of men over the course of many centuries. Approaching it as a “truth or lie” is a gross oversimplification.

      • Brian Frang

        Here’s the thing, A&E didn’t fire him for his beliefs, they fired him because he voiced an opinion that cost them advertiser dollars and was directly in opposition to the company’s stance on the matter. When I worked for Sam’s Club (which is a subsidiary of Wal-Mart, in case you don’t know), my bosses knew I was a registered democrat and that I had very liberal political views (I was far more to the left than I am, nowadays), and that was fine, but if I had started openly discussing those viewpoints at work, EVEN IF ASKED, I would have been fired, because as an employee, I represent the company, and if my viewpoints don’t jive with their viewpoints, then as a representative of the company, I should keep my mouth shut. Wal-Mart doesn’t want one of their non-union employees talking crap about their low wages and hours, or trying to push for a higher minimum wage or higher corporate taxes, because it makes them look bad, and can cost them money, since most of their customer base are staunch conservatives. They (GQ) asked his opinion, he gave it, nothing wrong with that. If he’d worked for Fox, he woulda kept his job. And that would have been fine, too. But there’s nothing wrong with A&E firing an employee for making a political statement that is directly in conflict with their viewpoints and will cost them advertising revenue.

      • Shannon

        That’s the thing.. He wasn’t AT work, he was not filming or at an A&E sponsored event. Because he works for A&E he should bite his tongue and give a sugar-coated, fake answer to please gay right activists and A&E’s public beliefs? No, that’s crap and you know it. If you work somewhere and you are in fear of losing your job over telling people political beliefs, religious beliefs, etc. OFF THE CLOCK that go against your company’s principles, then you clearly have an ethical issue. Just because you work for a corporation does not mean you have to instill their values or promote their views. And it also does not mean that you should not express your own, simply because they are not parallel with your employer’s. And maybe his first amendment right was not violated because he did not face percussions from the government… but what about a violation of Civil Rights Act of 1964. Regardless, it is discrimination. I am intrigued what the EEOC would have to say about A&E’s decision.

        People are pissed off that he is counterculture, and holds an “old-fashioned” stance on the hot button issue. This does not mean that his opinion is wrong, or “stupid”. We all hold opinions on religion, abortion, homosexuality, politics (and whatever else comes to mind) but we are forgetting that they are exactly what I just said, opinions- not FACTS.

        I’m so sick of seeing the “advertisement revenue” argument. Where is your evidence? And who says that Christian-based companies would not support Phil and his family, and decide to advertise during ‘Duck Dynasty”? You don’t. Besides, when there is a large controversy, people are more inclined to tune in and see what’s going on- and thus making the company more profitable.

    • SheepEffect

      I don’t see anything wrong with A&E’s actions. To me it sounds like you just hate this subculture and want to marginalize them from our society. I dislike them too, but I realize that I wouldn’t if I knew and understood some of them.

      What’s wrong with A&E giving the rest of us a closer—albeit probably filtered—look at an unfavored part of our culture?

      Also, what great evil has A&E released upon the world by giving Robertson some fame? What injustice was done to our society when his beliefs were publicized? I’ll agree that A&E was somewhat irresponsible, but I don’t think they were being unethical.

    • cj

      I guess my thought on this is… why ask about something that everyone has different veiws on then chastise him for sharing how he was raised and believes? Of course everyone is gonna have an issue with this answer coming from anyone let alone a celebrity. I guess all I can say is grow up.. get passed and forget about a question that shouldn’t have been asked anyway.

    • Sharon Mcmillion

      people always want to poke fun of the BIBLE, or the HOLY BIBLE I should say, and believe it or not, we shall ALL be judged by it some day…not just homosexuals but liars, thieves and murderers and more…the Bible also says that the world will hate you (believers) for my name sake

  • Allen Barefield

    Allen … I love your work and read you regularly. It’s rare that I would critique anyone’s words, but I found the following statement odd:

    “It’s clear his words come from how he was raised more than a learned behavior.”

    How one is raised IS learned behavior, pure and simple!

    Thanks and keep up the good work … you speak for millions!

  • NightHellcat

    So, it’s okay for our employer to choose our birth control methods, but NOT okay if they fire us for being giant assholes in the public domain? Got it.

    • Aaron Childers

      Well the asshole part is just a matter of opinion. The guy wasn’t considerate or politically correct by any means but we don’t look to celebrities for their wisdom. I assume people watch duck dynasty because hillbillies/rednecks are entertaining somehow. Idk how this relates to birth control but good luck with that

      • Michelle

        Aaron she’s talking about how the religious right constantly contradict themselves because of how they view things. It’s all about their religious freedom and their insane belief that we all have to live like them and politely tolerate their ignorant beliefs. We’d be taking away a CEO’s “religious freedom” if we forced him to give us the option of birth control….as if a corporation/business has the same rights as an individual right? And frankly, someone who genuinely believes that there is a resemblance between bestiality and homosexuality is an ignorant @$$, it’s not about political correctness.

      • Aaron Childers

        Thanks for clearing that up for me. Just seemed off topic but then again I haven’t slept so I’m not the sharpest knife in the kitchen right now. Btw I’m not defending his opinion by any means. It doesn’t say so here but he goes on to say something to the effect that he doesn’t judge because we are all gods creation which is funny since it changes the context a bit. In other articles he seems less bigoted and more misled than anything. That’s kind of what you get though when you mix politics and religion: a bunch of people choosing up sides when in reality liberals are much more compassionate toward our fellow human beings than right wing media chooses to show. To them social issues are means to an end and they want us to fight amongst eachother to distract from the goals of the elite.

      • Michelle

        Yeah I read the story on Yahoo and saw the rest of the quote. I usually don’t like Yahoo because the writers and commenters tend to be heavy right most of the time. He took the stance of hate the sinner, not the sin and let god judge. That does make him seem less like an ignorant @$$, so that’s somewhat comforting. If you look at the comments on Yahoo, most of them are about how A&E just lost a viewer and I think it’s kind of funny. For every extreme right they lost, they probably gained a leftist for coming out in strong support of anti-hate.

      • MichaelPHoltz

        His comments on not judging were part of a quickly crafted apology released by A&E that was purported to be from Robertson. It was not part of the original GQ interview.

      • Kathy McKinny

        IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE!! The fact that GQ CUT THAT PART OUT doesn’t seem to matter to YOU does it??

      • MichaelPHoltz

        You’ll have to source that. In every article I’ve read, the statement was only put together as a response to the GLAAD and NAACP complaint. Not to mention that if you look at his comments, there’s not a whole lot of love there to begin with.

      • Rob Martinez

        Number 1 show on cable. yawl don’t seem to realize you’ve most likely added another million to their numbers. By the way, not many hills in LA. Talk about ignorant.

      • Sarah Gonzales

        There are a lot of swamps though, where the Robertsons belong :)

      • shade421

        Only in America are they popular. Plus an argument from population is a poor way to go getting your point accross.
        Allow me to help you – the current world population is 7,131,731, 450 and counting that is way less than the viewship of this show. Plus, if it does add to the incredulous people who watch it, I am still comforted by the fact that a larger group of people really do not give a crap. The other thing I want to point out is yawl is usually spelled y’all. Apparently you have never been to L.A. it is quite hilly on the west coast.

      • Rob Martinez

        You obviously are unaware, not surprising, that Duck Dynasty is big in Europe and parts of Asia. Try encouraging the gay lifestyle in other parts of the world, See how that works out for you. I could care less what anyone chooses to do in their own lives. That includes Phil Robertson….Blame Auto correct for yawl.

      • Brian Frang

        Wrong LA, he meant Louisiana, not Los Angeles.

      • Rob Martinez

        Yeah, that’s it, compassionate, that’s the word I was think about when I think about liberals. Yeah right

      • Gregory Petersen

        He was asking no one to live like him. He was just giving his own personal opinion. The Q-boys (and girls) are the ones who show intolerance and believe that we we all have to like them and politely tolerate their ignorant beliefs. As far as the similarities, both are sexually deviant

      • [email protected]

        Because you use a term like Q boys does not make you right or acceptable. Youre as big a bigot as Phil with an ax to grind, it seems.

      • Gregory Petersen

        So what? Like Phil, I can speak my mind and as far as the “Q-boy” its no different than you calling people with different beliefs “bigot”

      • Brittany Myers

        You have some major issues go see a shrink so you can find out what your REAL problem is. I am guessing I know exactly what it is.

      • Gregory Petersen

        I think the shrink should be reserved for those who have been encouraged to think a certain way because of “political correctness”.

      • Brittany Myers

        You just cannot get off that sexually deviant word are you still in the closet?

      • Gregory Petersen

        Is that the best you can do? The deviants belong in the closet. before they came out, the country was a much better place.

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        according ONLY to aging white trash Christian male scum,,,,,,,,,,,,

      • Gregory Petersen

        Did I hurt your vagina?

      • Brittany Myers

        Right on these statements are based on pure IGNORANCE. It runs rampant in the SOUTH, and it is the theme of the GOP. As they hold up their bibles and spew their hate.

      • Susan Acciaiuoli

        Actually, corporations were granted the privilege of “corporate personhood” already…….

      • Linda J McLennan

        well it could, if some employers watched this show maybe some would have an epiphany about how important birth control really is

    • Marymennenga

      Now that is an issue of controlling what some call the weaker sex. As many already know women live longer than men, the ability to create life. Many are pro-life but feel it’s okay for a child of poor parents to starve and go without health care. Until women have the same rights as men about our bodies we will remain unequal to men, in their eye’s anyway. However we know who the weaker sex is. Now if all women would just say NO say for a month or so, men would have little choice but to give in, many act like babies anyway. Just saying

      • TokenMixedGirl

        Lysistrata at its best. I’ve been saying this for years. :-)

    • http://www.bergmannity.com/ William Bergmann

      Nope, employers are not allowed to have religious convictions, but are allowed to censor/discriminate against employees based on religious convictions.

      • Chaduke

        One can look at stupidity and ignorance and call it “religious conviction”, but its still stupid and ignorant.

      • http://www.bergmannity.com/ William Bergmann

        You’re sounding somewhat religious in your belief that you are the arbiter of truth and intelligence.

      • Chaduke

        You’re definitely making an incorrect assumption of what I believe.

      • http://www.bergmannity.com/ William Bergmann

        I have no idea what you believe- I can only base my comment on yours.

      • Chaduke

        Quote – “in your belief that you are the arbiter of truth and intelligence” … but you have no idea what I believe. If you have a point about how his religious conviction is not ignorant and stupid then make it. I personally think it is, but I’m willing to hear other points of view and even change my mind.

    • Brittany Myers

      Anyone supporting racism sexism or homophobic statements, the reich wingers love them. That has always been the right’s stance, therefore the reason our President is hated. There is a special place in hell for them.

  • Walt

    I do not believe what he said is true. He does however have the right to his opinion. At what point did this nation get so full of cry babies. If you don’t like the show don’t watch it. If you don’t what he said don’t listen. Who has seen this show and didn’t know they where religious. Those are his beliefs you don’t have to like them. He will be back on that show real quick A&E took him off because of PR. You think they will be able to handle the PR nightmare this will be when the religious right get ahold of this.

    • 65snake

      Yes, he does have the right to his own opinion. And so do the people that think he’s an ass.

  • Lodi D Helsel

    Not everyone thinks the way you think,knows the things you know,believes the things you believe nor acts the way you would act. Remember this and you will go along way in getting along with people.Its what you grow up around, its what we are taught. What you were taught is not how I was taught. This man has a bunch of good things to say and is rather funny. I enjoy his so called reteric. I do think thatthere is a time and a place for everything.Maybe his beliefs should have been airred differently. I agree . If we are going to be condemned for everything we say then this world is gonna get a whole lot quieter. I am sure that any of us on any given occassion has said something that will offend someone else. We just need to be careful of where we air our differences. I love the show. I hope Phil makes it back to the show at some point.

  • Michael Siever

    The First Amendment does *not* protect you from facing punitive measures in your private life, outside of getting arrested by the police/feds and being thrown in jail. You can still lose your job if you say something your boss doesn’t like or agree with. Remember how some CEOs threatened to fire any employees whom they knew voted for Obama? Yeah, they’re actually allowed to do that. Phil made his choice to say homophobic things in his GQ interview, A&E made their choice to respond to that by suspending him from Duck Dynasty indefinitely, and you the viewers can choose to boycott A&E in response to their choice. Choices have consequences, end of story.

  • Dave

    That’s crazy. Mr Robertson is put on a suspension for sharing his views and truth about Gods word and yet the writer of this artical calls him ignorant how many times and stupid. If that’s not slander then u all need to wake up. First homosexuality is a choice. God never intended for man to be with man or woman with woman. You all think when you stand before God that it’s all gonna be good. Nope sorry to bring you back to reality but you is going to hell, you will not spend eturnity in the presence of a loving father but in hell being tormented not remembering those you love now and the pain is like putting you hand on a stove when it’s on. It alright for everyone to suppress the Christian view on things. If anything we are the ones being discriminated. Doesn’t matter what it’s about every time a Christian share Gods truth about any issue, we are attacked and made out to be uniformed, unitellegent, or as it’s put here stupid. You are all Hippocrates. Wanting freedom to love whoever you want and say whatever but when it comes to Gods truth about your behaviour it homophobic, ignorant and stupid. When are you going to see that you are all wrong and Mr Robertson is correct.

    • Aaron Childers

      Well, the fear mongering doesn’t help. Believe in me or burn in an eternal lake of fire doesn’t seem like a loving god to me. Also, it warns about judging and condemning others and never says that homosexuality is an unforgivable sin. Show me the verse where it says that homosexuality is worse than stealing, or lying, or committing adultery, yet thieves, liars and adulterers aren’t being threatened with eternal damnation. It’s the self righteousness and judgment that push people away from god because there’s so many old testament loonies passing judgment and condemning others that they must certainly not believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ. Some other things you claim seem kind of off too, like homosexuality being a choice. Do you choose to be attracted to the opposite sex? That seems to be an opinion more than anything and I’d listen to an actual gay person since they would seem to understand it more than I could. If we are all forgiven anyway what would be their motivation to lie?

    • MikeLT

      Homosexuality is not a choice.

      However, religion is.

      • Pat

        Homosexuality just like religion is a choice I have two gay friends immediately that come to mind one male and one female both have had heterosexual and homosexual relationships, and CHOSE to stay with their homosexual lifestyle I’m a Christian and I don’t judge them at all who am I to judge, as a matter of fact my female gay friend is one of my best friends. There is no homosexual genome I believe it is a cultural thing but again I don’t judge them at all we all have our views I feel everyone in our country especially, judge others entirely too much because we are all so educated from the internet and extremely bias “news” on both sides (like this article). But whatever with all the Major problems in our modern society idk like our government divided and falling apart with more and more citizens literally relying and living off of their choices, job security and our monetary funds in the shitter, but ya let’s continue to argue over bs “news” that will not do anything to progress our society as a whole.

      • Malfouka Malfouka

        Homosexuality is not a choice. That said, you are making a mistake equating sex with sexual orientation. A straight man can have sex with a man and it doesn’t mean he’s gay, it just means he had sex with a man. Your anecdotal evidence is invalid.

      • http://www.redheadedfemme.com/ BB-Mystic

        Actually, no.
        What you’re talking about is BIsexuality, people who are attracted to BOTH men and women. (Or maybe “pansexuality” is the proper term these days–not sure.) People who are strictly attracted to the opposite sex are HETEROsexuals; people who are strictly attracted to the same sex are HOMOsexuals. In every case, who you are attracted to is NOT a choice. This has been established scientifically, so please don’t spread that hurtful “choice” canard.

      • Pat

        You both just proved my point of how everyone thinks they are so smart thanks to Internet, bs “research” and news I’m not about to argue that it’s not a choice we all make lifestyle choices that we feel are not choices at all often, almost divine intervention more often than not(whoever or whatever you believe in). I would love to see the “scientific” evidence from a reliable source proving that there is a homosexual gene. Thanks for educating me on the different types of sexual orientations , but my anecdotal evidence (nice use of a big boy term) may be invalid to your personal case, but once again America is too focused on what everyone says and are often more reactive than proactive. You all are way to sensitive to what others say, sticks and stones people, to hell with what others say go live the American dream and try to be as successful as you can…but good luck getting married in only 17 states ha

    • Leslee Bean

      He was put on suspension for financial reasons. Advertisers will pull their products from A&E. And, no, Mr. Robertson is not correct. Do not be so prideful and arrogant to believe that everyone in America is an intolerant Christian.

    • Kinneroth

      If you’re going to call people names like stupid and ignorant, don’t do it in a horribly constructed sentence with more spelling and grammar mistakes than a first grade classroom. Let see if I can hep correct this. *God’s, *you, *First, (forgot the apostrophe), *you are, *eternity, *tormented, (another apostrophe missing), *your, *It’s, *it’s, and you forgot a question mark at the end. It was obviously a question format. Also, calling people Hippocrates isn’t really an insult. He was a great man, and his oath is what all doctors follow. Unless you meant hypocrite. Then just imagine the asterisk is there. If you are going to argue about how Christians are being made out to seem unintelligent and stupid, then don’t type like it.

    • Sean Guerin

      God didn’t write the bible man did!!!

    • Marymennenga

      Thank you so much for standing judgement. There is also that little statement about judge not lest you be judged. We are all flawed and lack the qualifications to stand in judgement of peoples faith. Just saying that whole hell thing ain’t something I want to mess with just in case. But that’s just me.

    • stimlin

      So Dave… I’m wondering when you made the choice to be heterosexual? Or were you just born that way?

    • truffdeal

      Phil’s should consider who he calls a sinner as he was unfaithful and
      his infidelity that threatened to break up his marriage. Lucky for him
      his spouse was willing to take him – more forgiving than he is. Guess Phil wanted the freedom to love whoever he wanted… are you OK with that because he slept around with a female?

    • Jenny

      Slander has an actual legal definition, dude. And calling someone ignorant doesn’t fit the bill. The rest of your comment is too ignorant to touch, though. Although the use of “Hippocrates” kind of makes me suspect you’re trolling, because I sincerely hope you cannot be that stupid.

  • rebmoma

    Its the same (il)logic that complains that insurance policies covering contraception violates freedom of religion. Talibanish, no?

    • Chris Tharp

      The beard definitely conjures images.

  • Joan Brown

    I wonder if the people on Duck Dynasty are really Christians or acting. I always wonder about the people that go around preaching their Christianity, pick out the parts that they believe in and don’t bother with the rest. I have a couple sisters and their families that are like that. I wonder if my sisters know about the clothing made out of blended fabrics that Allen mentioned. I might have to make waves some day with that, because they are like me, that means we like blended fabrics that don’t require any ironing.

    • Everett Robert

      While most people don’t know about these regulations, I should point out that these regulations come from the Old Testament, which many Christians believe that these laws were made moot by the coming of Christ and that’s why the particular passage Phil Robertson paraphrased (from the New Testament book of Corinthians) is so popular among Christians condemning homosexual behavior, as a New Testament law “supersedes” an Old Testament law.

    • Ken Roberts

      You wont make any waves with that comment because the Bible clearly states that we are no longer under the Old Law. All these laws and regulations that Allen talks about are done away with, he is just “ignorant” (his own word) of the Bible and what it says. If you would like to discuss the Bible more feel free to email me.

  • Kat

    Well said. He should have just kept his mouth shut.

  • jWd

    Who cares what that redneck has to say? Typical Red State homophobe racist. I wouldn’t expect any less from the hillrod.I love how he hides behind his bible.. Bet yall fellow hillbillies be proud

  • William Dean Luke

    Ya know..calling people “Stupid” and “Ignorant” on a blog (IE: Readers who don’t share YOUR opinion”, is pretty low. I’m bisexual, and I don’t go around calling people stupid or ignorant because their OPINION differs from mine. If you can come into a blog (Where you work for someone else) and talk down to people who don’t share your opinion, THen Phil Robertson should be afforded the same common courtesy. It’s his opinion, and regardless of who he works for, that shouldn’t bar him from being able to do what he loves, etc. THe show wasn’t even his idea, it was his son’s.

    Look, He’s a conservative man. He doesn’t know much about LGBT community, as his upringing taught him it was wrong to be gay. Yes, he’s ignorant of the facts, and yes, he’s lumping them all in together, but lambasting him for his opinion sounds like you’re trying to be the morality police. It just doesn’t work that way.

    If you feel entitled to call people ignorant, stupid bufoons, without repercussions, then, by God, So should Phil be allowed his opinion without repercussions. He didn’t say that being gay automatically makes people evil, he just believes, as do a lot of people, that it’s a sin.

    Phil isn’t doing anything he thinks is wrong, is the bottom line here. He should sue A&E for violation of his First Amendment Rights. He didn’t go on TV and say “A&E thinks this”, he said “~I~ think it’s wrong. So how anybody with a BRAIN IN THEIR HEAD (IE, unbiased common sense) could come to the conclusion that he solely represents A&E or that he’s stupid and or ignorant, when he does so much for his community, and family, is fucking ridiculous.

    And you should be ashamed of yourself, for using your blog to spew hate, not only about this man, but to insinuate that everyone who doesn’t agree with with you is an idiot.

    How’s that for poltical Correctness, asshole?

    PS- Have fun living in that glass house.

    • raggedcompany

      A privately run blog is not held to the same standards as a man publicly representing a company. Just as Mr. Robertson has the right to spout off his opinon, A&E has the right to reprimand him for not falling within their standards. The only protection the first amendment provides is that he cannot be jailed for what he is saying. Freedom of speech does not mean you get to say whatever you want without any consequences.

      • Devin Martin

        This privately ran blog is a company. They make advertising revenues. He makes a good point about not being judgemental. This article is going viral and the rhetoric this author is chanting is corporate censorship is ok. Which it is not.

      • William Dean Luke

        That’s just it. He wasn’t “representing” A&E. He was being interviewed by GQ Magazine. What? He’s supposed to lie to their faces and go against what he believes in for the sake of PR and PC? I call bullshit. At least he was honest with his opinion, and explained himself as concisely as possible. I don’t watch the show, but all the rhetoric being thrown around is apalling.

        In this country, we’re passing laws that say “You can’t fire/not hire someone for being LGBT”, but then the LGBT community thinks it can turn around and persecute/belittle and get someone fired for their personal beliefs? They believe someone should lose their job because they’re straight and don’t share the LGBT community’s opinion?

        It’s okay to be straight, as long as you don’t talk about it, but it’s just fine and dandy to tell the whole damn world you’re gay? This double-standard bullshit has to go.

      • Reynard Vulpes

        If the company’s customers don’t know who you are and who you work for, go for it. If you are publicly linked, and or say so yourself, the company has every right to gauge the possible outcomes of your commentary. And fire you if they think you will cause them and their shareholders or owners harm to suffer losses.

        In fact the man is now a candidate for suit for defamation, given that public, had the company not canned him, would easily assume the company held the same views.

        Use some logic please.

      • Jin

        This is not right. Imagine CNN were to gauge possible outcome of Anderson Cooper being publicly gay and fire him and you *really* think there would be no repercussion or law suits against CNN? And CNN would not violate anti harassment laws?

        And I know you or someone would argue CNN wouldn’t never do that. But that’s not the point I’m making if your logic and comprehension are up to minimum standards.

      • Brian Frang

        But that’s not the same thing, at all. Being gay is not a choice, being a bigot is. If CNN fired him (Cooper) for being gay, THAT is discrimination, if they fired him for his liberal viewpoints (obviously they wouldn’t, but if they were Fox, News, instead, let’s say), THAT would be perfectly legal. See the difference? Political beliefs are protected from GOVERNMENTAL interference, not from private companies who think your opinions could hurt their image. Fox News is NOT required to have liberals on their show, because that would be counterproductive to catering to their primary conservative audience, and A&E is NOT required to tolerate his (Robertson’s) homophobia. If he was gay, they WOULD have to tolerate that, because that’s not an opinion, it’s a part of who he is. That’s the difference.

      • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

        The differenec is, he didn’t say his comments while publicly representing a company!

      • Lisa Hepler Cook

        Does the show air on A&E? Does he play a character or does he play himself? He doesn’t have to sit in an interview with an A&E bandanna on to represent the company – HE’S A PUBLIC FIGURE!!! That’s what happens when you appear on reality TV.

      • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

        Then I guess you hold Al Sharpton and Alec Baldwin to the same accord for their homophobic rants where they are public figures who play themselves on MSNBC which you likely watch.

      • Kevin Kuhn

        I do. Al Sharpton is a race baiter who is a complete moron and works to keep racism alive and well in the US. Alec Baldwin is a moron and honestly, I cannot fathom why he has any popularity at all. I’ve never once enjoyed a film he was in nor think he has any real talent.

        The biggest problem with your argument though is, I’m not employing either of them so I have no ability to suspend them. If MSNBC found them to not be representing their views, they can remove them as well. Nothing was done to this fake scripted reality tv star (who before the show was a preppy Yuppie who altered his appearance and that of his family to meet the shows script requirements) other than A&E suspending him from the A&E funded, produced, and aired, show Duck Dynasty, for representing a view point they don’t believe in.

        This of course assumes this is the classic age old trick of making up a controversy in order to boast ratings and viewers, as this show likes to do repeatedly.

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        Sharpton and jesse Jackson are as shitbag crybaby as Hannity and Limbaugh and Huckabee,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, and Im a white liberal– scum is scum: the difference is regressive white trash bring JEEEESUS into the chat with the claim they know what JEEEESUS wants

      • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

        All while the Liberal White Trash scum press and push Abortion, Tax increases, Gay Rights, Government Intrustion, and Government healthcare UPON people thinking they know what the people want and what’s best for the people all while not following their own way of thinking…”Do as I say, not as I Do!” Yet when the people speak out against these forceful Liberal tactics, then they are labeled as racist or bigots! Go Figure! Typical Hypocritical Liberals!

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        hey crybaby Brandon: white trash? please see: tea party rallies,,,,,DUCK DYNASTY ,,,,,FOX “news” religious zealots,,, southern states inhabitants

      • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

        That’s all you got? A Liberal attack? What’s next gonna play the race card? Tea Party Rallies have been a lot more peaceful than Occupy Jobless Liberal Rallies!

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        tea party rallies have a 98% white trash turnout, YES: im hitting U with a liberal attack there———– care to (try 2) dispute>>>???

      • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

        And Racist Democrat rallies led by Al Sharpton and company which usually turn out FALSE (Traythug, Tawana Brawley, Duke Lacrosse) have a 99% colored turnout rate full of incompetent people who forget about MLK’s dream and focus only color of skin rather than content of character which the numbers also reflect how they voted for president for the same reasons! Care to dispute?

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        Sharpton and jesse Jackson are total scumbags who follow the “mantra” of ( usually ) tea party trash– capitalizing financially upon the stupidity of the people of the color they themselves are. MLK was killed by a white trash scumbag rightwinger who KNEW that KING– unlike ralph Abernathy and those idiots– was on the RIGHT PATH and the white elitist trash didn’t want the blacks being equal. do U really want to debate me?????

      • Lisa Hepler Cook

        Do they work for MSNBC? Are they actual employees or are they guest commentators? I don’t hold them to anything. I couldn’t care less what they say, the point is does MSNBC care what they say. You seem to be confused. Just because someone is a public figure does not mean they can get away with saying anything they want. Public figures answer to their private employers when their private employers are not happy with the way they represent themselves. It’s not an issue of free speech vs bigotry. If Phil would have got arrested for saying it, that would’ve violated his civil rights. All he did was lose his job by his private employer which did not want to be represented in the way in which Phil spoke.

      • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

        Employees they are! Yet they say some of the most vile and hateful things. So they should have to answer to their employers. What’s so funny is Phil is a wealthy man (you know those people you Liberals hate) and he earned it all by hard work, not a handout…he and his family doesn’t need A&E. A&E needs them to survive as a network. They are the top rated show in the country, no matter where they go the success will still keep coming!

      • Lisa Hepler Cook

        You seem to love to call me a liberal when the funny thing is since corporations (whom you conservatives love to get on your knees for more than the good lord) won a decisive Supreme Court victory in 2010 from the citizens united case where corporations are considered people, hence corporations have rights. Phil can be worth a billion dollars – that’s beside the point – he’s an employee for A&E. I don’t hate Phil, have never watched the show and couldn’t tell you more than I’ve learned about the show other than the various posts I have read. What I do know is that conservative blog that you work for – if you walked in and started sprouting pro-choice and pro-immigration stuff at work and it affected their bottom line – your comments would not sit well with the boss and they would have the right to fire you. Just like Phil.

      • Nita

        He doesn’t have to, everyone knows that he has a show on A&E and it could reflect badly on the show. A&E has a right to protect their assets. Free speech works both ways and there are consequences when you spout off. You have a right to say anything you wish, but you also have to suffer the consequences when you do.

      • raggedcompany

        When you are a public figure under contract with a company, and you’re saying things in public, then yes, you are publicly representing them. That’s why athletes get in trouble for misbehaving even when they’re in their offseason. Because even though they’re not on the clock, they’re still a representative of that company. If I were to get in legal trouble, or if I were to make homophobic or racist comments publicly and my employers found out about it, they would be fully within their rights to terminate my employment if my actions went against their image. It happens to regular people, too, not just celebrities.

      • Brian Frang

        Was he doing an interview about Duck Dynasties? Yes. Therefore he was representing A&E. Period.

      • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

        A&E does not own his business Duck Commander!

      • Brian Frang

        That doesn’t matter. The interview was about the show, not his private business. Plus, the whole “representative of the company, even in off time” thing was written into his contract, as is standard operating procedure for EVERYONE who works as a public figure in television. He was STILL a representative of A&E and they were STILL within their rights to fire him.

      • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

        Just like the Storage War guys who represent A&E and voiced their opinion to TMZ right? Where is their suspension…oh let me guess, they are Liberals…they get a pass because Liberals are only tolerant of those that think as they do! “Do as I say, not as I do!”

      • Reynard Vulpes

        Oooo… I should take writing lessons from you. Very concise, elegant fully and accurately stated.

        See, there I go, rambling on, all wordy and blathering.

    • David Brown

      this is the best response I’ve seen on this post.It seems too many people think tolerance of other peoples beliefs only counts if they feel the same way they do.

    • Reynard Vulpes

      S’use me sonnie, but I have been barred from liberal comments sections of web sites precisely because I expressed what they assumed came from a “conservative gun extremist,” when in fact I’m a Liberal with Gun. Or maybe they figured that out and that scared the piss out of them.

      I didn’t like that called the site owner a coward but I accept he had the right to bar me, unless he’s in the employ or contracted to the federal government. THEN I might have claimed rights violation. But I’d still have been wrong constitutionally.

    • RoughRugger

      Maybe you should try reading the Constitution. The First Amendment guarantees that the GOVERNMENT will not restrict or punish speech. Last time I checked, A&E is NOT the government, so Mr. Robertson’s rights have NOT been violated. Too, the First Amendment does NOT guarantee freedom from consequences or repercussions for speech. If an employee of a company says things that the company disagrees with, or that the company feels is a poor reflection upon it, the company has the right (within the bounds of labor laws) to punish the employee.

    • Chaduke

      I call people stupid and ignorant when their opinions represent ignorance and stupidity.

      • William Dean Luke

        YEah, but in person, I’m sure you practice a little more tact. I doubt you outright call someone stupid in fear of immediate repercussions of saying something so blatantly callous and mean-spirited to someone who might likely be able to pummel you into the ground for making them feel bad. Not everyone uses common sense, and a lot of people, when called stupid, will outright suckerpunch the offending party as a matter of honor.

        The point being..you don’t call someone stupid without expecting ~some~ kind of negative reaction.

      • Chaduke

        My point is this is not just about disagreeing with someone. That’s the defense bible followers use all the time, they call a double standard, point the finger back in the other direction and say the other side is intolerant of them. My point is if you use the bible as your excuse to say stupid and ignorant things, it doesn’t cancel out the fact that its ignorant and stupid. The bible/religion is one of the biggest culprits when comes to getting people to say stupid things. Freedom of religion is not some free pass to be a bigot or an asshole.

      • http://www.redheadedfemme.com/ BB-Mystic

        Yes. I’ve got an icon that says, “Bigotry wrapped in prayer is still bigotry.” It’s fine if you believe that for yourself, but you can’t project it at other people who may not believe as you do.

  • John Gagon

    This is about my reaction too. And what about this business’s right to employ the caliber of people they want to represent them? The more the first amendment gets abused like this, the less respect people will have for it when it really is needed.

    Isn’t that a double standard for the conservative (see defense by Fox News) to disregard the rights of a business here? Or is this a theocracy where businesses/public services are cool only when they support your personal interpretation of a holy text? My guess is that there is a growing monopoly in the gulf of Fox-Walmart-Whataburger-Osteen-Texarkianna-murica or something. And it seems intent on destroying anyone not like them while hiding behind faux tolerance and respect BS to slip by and gain support before they lower the curtain to reveal the w.a.s.p. trailer trash utopia they want to make.

    LGBT people can be fired in 33 states just for being who they are regardless of anything they say. You can be fired for so much as a lisp while saying you love Jesus in Louisianna. He’s being suspended and this warrants a federal level “discussion” & “debate”? I am guessing they think they can twist the arm of A&E now on the basis of “first amendment”?

  • Matthew Gill

    If you agree that he should be suspended from work because of what he said during his free time, as a free citizen, do you think your employer should be able to suspend you for your political beliefs and expressing them? Maybe your employer is pro-domestic surveillance or pro-war, and you’re not. Do you feel that your job is in danger for expressing what you believe, and do you think that’s right? Personally, I would prefer to live in a society in which anyone can say what they think, without fear, because that’s the one in which people will come to truth most easily and the powerful won’t be able to manipulate us by testing us to see if we conform to whatever ideology is the flavor of the day. Thirty years ago it could have been pro-homosexuality that would have been punished rather than anti-homosexuality. It might be the employer’s right (I’m not sure about the law), but even if it is, the employer should face the disgust of a free society committed to free speech, and the employer can face the consequences of its actions. Unfortunately so-called progressives seem to lack respect and tolerance for those with opinions that aren’t their own, and see fit to repress them rather than convince them or live and let live. That after their own beliefs would have gotten them derided or even killed not long ago.

  • Stacy

    I believe his reference to bestiality, was just his way of mentioning OTHER sins, the Bible doesn’t warrant a “sin scale”, one is not worse than the other, however, bestiality is mentioned in the Bible, as are all other sins. I believe he was trying to reiterate a point, that the world has gotten, and is getting, further away from God and God’s principles. So, if one has to suffer repercussions from stating an opinion, then so should all who do so, in the media!! But, we all know that is not the case. Uneducated, is uneducated! One should not start referencing the Bible, without studying it.

  • Brenda Lott

    Mr. Duck’s comments in re to homosexuality were reprehensible – but why are we overlooking his remarks stating that blacks were happier in the picking fields working for the white farmers than they are on government subsidies?

  • Jennifer

    My opinion is like assholes and everyone has one…but here it goes! Hey it’s the mans right to feel the way he does whether it be politically correct or not. The interviewer asked his opinion and he gave it. Maybe society should stop asking people questions if they don’t want to hear truthful answers. Just because he’s a reality tv star doesn’t mean he isn’t entitled to his own feelings about the matter of which he was asked about!! America is too damn sensitive today!!Get over it people!! I’m straight doesn’t mean I’d take offense to a gay person sharing their feelings about that. Quit crying over all this crap and lets move on to real problems not some guy that’s made millions being his redneck self. Maybe if more people stopped trying to please everyone and sugarcoat everything in life we’d all be better off as a society! Real Problems people and this isn’t one! So over this gay/straight politically correct bs!

  • grow-up

    As I went through the comments below, I find it hilarious how we demonize someone with a different view on life in general than that of our own. We call them racist, bigot, homophobe, and a number of other hateful things that if said in a workplace someone would be fired in a heart beat. Way to go hypocrites. Way to make your point. Why don’t you just say that freedom of speech is only acceptable when it agrees with your point of view.

  • Turnofftv

    Wow that man was just answering a couple of well placed questions it sounds like. I have absolutely nothing against gay people, have many gay friends, but I agree with him that a woman’s vagina is much more desirable than a mans anus. So now we condemn people for being Christian? People have thought this way for thousands of years, he is a man of faith. If you watch the show, which I have maybe a couple of times, it is clear that none of these people are hateful and aren’t out to get anybody including gay people. Who cares

  • Kay Keeslar

    I find it interesting that people who are homophobic only refer to the sexual aspect of relationships. I never see this about heterosexual relationships. There is much more to relationships than what happens in the bedroom.

  • Ken Roberts

    I’m not too sure you should be making comments on the Bible if you haven’t actually read it. To say that Phil hasn’t read Leviticus and that you hope he doesn’t have a tattoo or eat certain foods or wear certain clothing is just becoming exactly what you are saying Phil is: ignorant. Everything you said that you hope Phil doesn’t do was a part of the old law, which we are no longer bound to. When Jesus Christ came and died on the cross for everyone’s sins he created a new covenant which we are now under and fulfilled and put away the old law (which includes the tattoos, eating of certain foods, wearing certain clothes). This article now makes you look ignorant just as you portray Phil as being ignorant because now you have proved your ignorance.

    • Malfouka Malfouka

      Right, and guess what Mr. Biblical scholar, Jesus said jack-shit about gay folks.

      • Ken Roberts

        Where in my comment did I say anything about “gay folks”? All I was saying is that Mr. Allen’s use of the Bible to prove his point was incorrect.

        If you want to discuss the Bible and what is says about “gay folks” we can but that is not the point of my comment.

  • Devin Martin

    I agree with some aspects to this article. People like Phil Roberston are just ignorant. BUT keep in mind that the notion to control one persons belief in the public eye is the same challenge that the oppressed lgbt community has been fighting for years. Liberty is the answer for everyone not just some people when it is popular or unpopular. This author needs to dial back on the emotions and be the accepting person the lgbt community would have appreciated when their way of life was a struggle and the unpopular thing. With that being said he is right about being an employee of an organization. A&E has the right as an organization to allow whoever they want or dont want on their network. The network is responding the way they think the people want. Just like how they didnt have gay couples kissing on tv for the longest. Its a complicated topic. Just be mindful of this before you start beating the censorship drum.

  • Peggy

    It sounds to me like everyone is judging and bashing a man for his beliefs. How are any one of you any better than what you are judging him for?????Robertson did not name anyone specifically. He simply stated his beliefs and what the bible tells us. Whether a christian or not, shouldn’t this all be about showing love, kindness and respect for others!? He was asked a question and he told what he believes and knows from the bible. Any one bashing him for it is just as ignorant as they think he is.

    • Malfouka Malfouka

      Bullshit. Unless you consider hatred, bigotry, and misogyny Christian values.

    • Excuse me, but

      Last I checked, Christianity was supposed to be a religion of tolerance and love. “Let ye who is without sin cast the first stone” type thing. Amazing how many people forget the teachings of Jesus when it’s convenient.

      (I’m not even Christian and I know this…. why do so many Christians fail to?)

  • Amy B

    I don’t think it is an attack on free speech. It’s more just an attack on an older christian man with old religious beliefs that put them out for the world to hear and now has to deal with the consequences of what he said. They didn’t refuse to post the article, now that would be an attack on free speech. They let him say what he wanted then he was reprimanded for it by being removed from the show. If you ask me I think it is stupid we are spending so much time talking about this because it is not going to change his opinion just because a bunch of people are coming after him.

  • Aaron J. Angel

    Thank you. Would that more would articulate this as clearly. The government isn’t cutting out Mr. Robertson’s tongue, as the free speech mongers would have you believe. A&E is a private television network that, despite the suggestions of overzealous free speech advocates, holds no legislative power.

    Constitutional freedoms are intended to protect us from an overreaching government. It does not, however, protect us from the consequences of our own actions. It neither prevents one from entering into an agreement with another to obtain benefits in exchange for performing or abstaining from a legal activity, nor one from exiting such an agreement when the other fails to meet a voluntary obligation.

    To suggest otherwise is to suggest that EWTN should host Dan Savage’s next talk show and refrain from cancelling it upon discovering the stark contrast in which it stands to their values.

    [Edited for grammar.]

  • Marcus Johnson

    Just wondering, if Duck Dynasty is really supposed to be a “scripted reality” series, why suspend Phil Robertson for something he said in reality? This is what he actually said; let’s get him back on camera and have a couple episodes in which he deals with the fallout and finds out something about his own personal beliefs.

    Or does the definition of “scripted reality” series exclude the possibility of dealing with reality?

  • Debbie Ann Neumann

    That whole show and mentality is just so gross. I can’t even talk about it.

  • DJ

    Just to clarify….the shellfish, blended materials, tattoos, etc. Thats all Old Testament, old covenant. Whe Jesus died on the cross, he brought forth a new covenant and a new command.

    Do try to twist it to your advantage.

    • Malfouka Malfouka

      Exactly, and what DID Jesus say about gay folks? Yup, that’s right, absolutely nothing.

  • Sally

    First off, this author did not impress me with calling Mr. Robertson “ignorant or stupid” just because he stated his opinion or belief. Agreed, he was wrong to state it in the workplace, but since all groups alike, whether they be sex-based, religion-based, or race-based, seems to be able to state their opinions and beliefs (not saying in the workplace) and it is “politically correct” just because someone thinks it is, so they get away with it… I say let’s STOP the name calling and double standards…. because YOU are the real ignorant and stupid one here…. with this obviously biased article. We all have a right to believe what we want, period. If we say it in the workplace, then we shall suffer whatever punishment they deem we deserve. Period. BTW, Kudos to Mr. Robertson… ! You can be my “wingman” anytime! Let’s all stop labeling people…. I didn’t see in this article that Mr. Robertson said homosexuals were stupid or ignorant…..Just sayin’!!

    • DoubleM

      “I say let’s STOP the name calling and double standards…. because YOU are the real ignorant and stupid one here…. ”
      Seriously?

    • Jenny

      “Obviously biased article”
      It’s not an article. It’s someone’s personal blog to state their own opinion. Of course it’s “biased.”

  • Wau La Walker

    I have No Problem with what he said..he says basically what a lot of us think, but don’t let roll off our tongue!…All sins are equal, so he ain’t said nothing wrong. How is he penalized for an answer he gave to a question that was asked…I’m confused…was that a set up to get a reaction out of people??

  • terryward

    And this yob is relevant why?

  • Jeremy

    Whoever wrote this pile of garbage of an article is a typical example of the hypocrisy of liberals. This is certainly a free speech issue and is just another case of a company fearing backlash from the uber PC lamestreet media. Phil has the 1st admendment right to express his beliefs, whatever they may be, without fear of retribution from his employer. What if someone on an A&E show had made a Pro-LGBT comment in an interview and then was suspended by the network? What would you be saying then? Point is grow up, not everyone is going to have the same beliefs in this world and this PC crap has gotten out of hand.

    • Brian Frang

      Um, show me where the law says the 1st amendment applies to private companies? I’ll give you a hint: The Supreme Court has CONSISTENTLY ruled that private corporations are not bound by the Bill of Rights, which ONLY applies to governmental entities. It was a business decision, pure and simple, and completely legal. A&E was losing ad revenue over his actions, so they fired him.

      • Brian Frang

        And for the record, if it WAS the other way around (A pro-gay TV personality fired by an anti-gay company), we’d be totally pissed, because we disagree with that viewpoint, and think it’s an immoral stance, but it would STILL be completely legal and not a violation of the first amendment.

  • Michael

    OMG thank you!!! I have uttered a similar response on multiple posts about this situation and have tried to explain that it isn’t a free speech issue it is the fact that he is part of a brand which includes the network. Thank you times a million for posting this!!!

  • Jose Rodriguez

    I have friends who are Gay and what happens in there private lives is there business but if they ask me for my opinion i agree with Phil, What Phil should have done is quote the Bible –

    Lev. 18:22, ”

    Lev. 20:13, ”

    1 Cor. 6:9-10, ”

    Romans 1:26–28

    Read them for yourself make your own decisions

  • Nathan Baker

    The way I see it the works is turning into a bunch of cry baby Bitches if you don’t like something don’t watch it…if you knew something wad gonna out of his mouth to offend you then why would you wait around for it that is the stupidity that needs to be addressed not that this man says what’s on mw the fuck up people change your tampon and carry on all of this politically correct ridiculous is getting of control

    • Malfouka Malfouka

      Nice, misogyny with a side of stupid.

  • Just a young conservative girl

    You say that the statements made by Mr. Robertson are ignorant, yet the points made in this article clearly display a great deal of ignorance in Mr. Roberton’s, and my own, beliefs. First off, I do not believe that Mr. Robertson was saying that homosexuality leads to bestality or promiscuity. If you look at the context of his statement, I believe he meant that the practices of all of these things are sinful and things he cannot understand wanting or practicing. Second, your knowledge of the Christian beliefs are astoundingly miniscule. In Leviticus, the Bible is speaking of the law that the Jewish people and followers of God were to follow. This law included hundreds of laws, and the Bible goes on to say that if you are an offender of even one point in the law, then you are guilty of all. The only way to get forgiveness from these sins was to give sacrifices of pure lambs, goats, and other specific and pure animals on alters anointed by God. Since then, God sent his son Jesus to die as the pure animals did, and he himself being pure, was the only one to be able to take away the sins forever, not temporarily like the animals. Since then, many of these laws such as the practices of food consumption and sacrifices are no longer necessary to follow because of the coming of our Lord. Though this is true, the state of sin that certain practices such as homosexuality and such have not stopped being an abomination to God. It isn’t pure or right, and not what God intended at all. I, again like Phil, do not judge those that are practicing these things, because it is simply not my place. Who am I, a sinful person, to judge another sinful person? Only God, who is perfect, can judge. Next, to address the statement about the family-friendliness of these graphic statements. The simple fact is, this was not said on the show or where children could hear or read without their parents allowing it to be heard. Please stop grasping at straws. I do not mean any of this in disrespect, but to bring you out of your unknowing state about these very important issues. Before you go on saying that someone else is ignorant and how they are ignorant, you may want to check and see what they believe and why they believe it next time. You may be surprised at the knowledge of conservative “rednecks” once you look into it a bit more.

    • Malfouka Malfouka

      Blah, blah, blah…

  • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

    What’s next? Is Your Progressive Messiah going to come out and say “If I had a son he would be gay like me, and Phil Robertson’s comments are the direct fault of Republicans?” You ignorant Liberal Sheeple are quite funny! Always speak of “tolerance” yet only “tolerant” of views that agree with your own! By the way…more people support Phil Robertson than do Obamacare! How’s that working out for you?

    • Malfouka Malfouka

      Hell no, we’re not tolerant of hate-filled bigots.

      • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

        You must mean people like Al Sharpton, Martin Bashir, and Alec Baldwin who you likely glean over as you stick your finger up your rectum and worship MSNBC?

        And thanks for proving my point about typical Liberals…only “tolerant” of views that they agree with!

      • Malfouka Malfouka

        You’re so clever!

      • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

        Exactly…once again thanks for proving my point!

      • Malfouka Malfouka

        Your insistence that you have somehow proven a point or came out on top is amusing. I directly said we (as in thinking, equality-loving folks) are NOT tolerant towards bigots. I am not tolerant, that is a fact. Why should I be tolerant towards folks espousing hatred? I’m not tolerant towards racists, I’m not tolerant toward misogynists, I’m not tolerant towards rapists, child molesters, murders, and I am certainly not tolerate towards gay-hating bigots who think we should all embrace their views because they have some misguided idea that a bronze-age book of middle eastern mythology has any relevance to anyone but themselves. You have every right to be an asshole. You have every right to be a hateful bigot [tho' for the life of me I can't understand why anyone would choose to live his life filled with such fear and animosity towards other humans. You folks must lead miserable lives.] That said, I do not have to be tolerate, I do not have to accept your pitiful hatred. And, although I am an atheist, I can guarantee that if there was a god, she’d be pretty pissed at the rampant assholism of her followers.

      • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

        Yet you expect everyone to be tolerant to your views! Typical “Do as I say, not as I Do” Liberal! Thanks again for proving my point once again!

      • Malfouka Malfouka

        What do you not understand about the irrationality of being tolerant towards bigots? When is it okay not to be tolerant?

      • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

        I don’t know…you tell me. Liberals claim to be the “tolerant” ones…well “tolerant” so long as someone else’s opinion agrees with their own. Yet again…thanks for proving my point!

      • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

        Are you tolerant to Christians? Are you tolerant to Pro Lifers? Since when is it ok not to be tolerant? Oh wait I forget you’re a liberal…it’s only “tolerance” so long as they agree with you! By the way Phil Robertson went on to say he appreciates and respects ALL PEOPLE but Liberals tend to ignore that part of it. Are you tolerant of Alec Baldwin and Al Sharpton’s homophobic rants too?

      • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

        Atheist? Well God loves you, and God Bless you!

      • Malfouka Malfouka

        Go ahead and say “god loves you” or whatever, it doesn’t offend or upset me in the least, I just find it silly. Nice try tho’.

      • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

        I think ObamaCare covers delusion along with liberal butthurt…have you been able to sign up yet?

      • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

        So you’re not tolerant of believers in God and find it silly! Once again…thanks for proving my point! This is too easy!

      • http://www.redheadedfemme.com/ BB-Mystic

        I don’t know what you’re referring to re: Al Sharpton, but Alec Baldwin got his ass fired from MSNBC (as he should have–I don’t know why in the hell Phil Griffin gave him a show to begin with; he’s been a nasty, anger-management-challenged prick for years) and Martin Bashir is no longer there either. So you need some more timely examples, methinks.

  • Rachel

    You can’t compare Leviticus of the Old Testament with Corinthians from the New Testament.

  • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

    What is it Libtards have against birds? First Chickens (Chick Fil A) and now Ducks I thought they loved animals? Typical Hypocrites! Yeah do that whole boycott thing…I’m sure it will work out about like the Chick Fil A thing did! An Epic FAIL!

  • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

    What did all of you ignorant sheeple think about Alec Baldwin, Martin Bashir, and Al Sharpton’s homophobic rants and degrading comments? Oh wait I’m sure they don’t count because as usual you can be “tolerant” of their views because so many are like your own!

  • Corrie

    i think this blog is absolutely DISGUSTING! Phil is a conservative & in todays society, you are made out to be a horrible person if you are one! The only way the media wants you think anymore is to NOT think, to NOT have an opinion on anything & youre just supposed to think that everything is ok! Do i agree with gays, no .. but im not going to hate them for being gay! why are we supposed to be tolerant to gay people & their feelings but noone is tolerant of our feelings?! I think its refreshing to see someone finally stand up to the media & NOT be politically correct! Someone is always offended about something & its about time people stop crying about everything & get over it! so people dont like you or your beliefs, OH WELL! the world doesnt revolve around you! Being Christian anymore is a bad thing in this world. Not believing what liberals want you to anymore is a crime in the media & about 99% of the country DOESNT agree with what the stupid media thinks! everyone needs to stop being so worried about who they are going to offend & just say what they want! so my point is .. GET THAT STICK OUTTA YOUR ASS PEOPLE, GROW UP & DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT OTHER PEOPLE MAY HATE YOU & DISAGREE WITH YOUR LIFE CHOICES! & stop shoving gay tolerance down my throat if youre not going to tolerate my feelings back!

    • Malfouka Malfouka

      Wah! Meanies aren’t tolerate of my hateful views! Wah! I’m a Christian so any bigoted piece of nonsense that spews from my troglodyte mouth should be embraced!

      • Richard Thomas

        Pretty much.

    • Damien Roberts

      Its amazing that you’re one minute complaining about how, as a Christian, you’re disrespected. Then the next you’re saying everyone else needs to stop being so sensitive. We live in a country where the majority of social legislation is actually founded on Christian beliefs…yet the gays are shoving their beliefs down peoples throats?

    • Brian Frang

      Here’s the thing: Conservatism, specifically neoconservatism, is primarily based around the idea of objectivism, The “take what you can, give nothing back, it’s every man for himself” mentality (The same mentality, by the way, that drives LaVeyan Satanism, to quote LaVey on the matter “Satanism is just Ayn Rand’s philosophy with ceremony and ritual attached”). The very core principles of objectivism, according to Christ, himself, make you a bad person, if you follow them. So, yeah, from a CHRISTIAN perspective, being a conservative DOES make you a bad person.

      And liberals don’t like you because of your antiquated social beliefs, and the fact that neoconservatives try to force through laws mandating that their beliefs be recognized as law (anti-abortion groups, anti-gay groups, MRAs, etc, etc, etc), AND the fact that your economic views are hypocritical, according to your religion, AND incredibly greedy, and not economically sound.

  • Justin

    No one even asked for his opinion on gay marriage. Just saying.

  • Bridgette

    You’re the ignorant dumbass for even writing this “garbage”. No one gives a damn about your opinion about gay people or their lifestyle. Why does anyone care what Phil said about the matter? So since you’re such an extreme supporter of gays, but seem to be strongly against those that are opposing gays (the learned or raised against gay lifestyle) then why are you being such an offended viewer that is being just discriminative toward straight people. … Hypocrite.

  • Ash

    If he came out saying in this interview that he was a neo nazi or a satan worshiper, or he was saying hateful things about Christianity I bet the same people that are saying his freedom of speech was infringed upon would be the first people to demand A&E fire him. He has a right to speak any belief he chooses, but A&E has the right to express their beliefs as well.

    • Ohhai

      Paula Deen admitted to saying derragatory racial slurs and is -still- suffering from it. No one was up in arms then… I wonder why.

      • Brian Frang

        Really? Cuz every single conservative I know was defending her and saying black people were overreacting.

  • Beright

    Can someone here explain to me how Phil’s remarks are out of “ignorance”. Ignorance is the lack of understanding. How is it that the Author of this piece can say that Phil ‘Doesn’t understand’ where he would like to place his gentiles when having sex? What is ignorant is for all of you to assume that the desire to have sex with the same gender should some how feel natural to every person. Well, guess what..it doesn’t. If this was true, our species would have never survived.

    • Damien Roberts

      I don’t find his heterosexuality to be ignorant and I don’t find him being religious ignorant. But he does very clearly link terrorism, promiscuity, and homosexuality…its his belief that someone can so quickly change their sexuality that is ignorant.

    • Richard Thomas

      “What is ignorant is for all of you to assume that the desire to have sex with the same gender should some how feel natural to every person.”

      Is this a class project for Strawman Arts and Crafts?

  • Rick Hitchings

    IGNORANCE is just bullshit here. Sure he is ignorant, but this is about as homophobic as it gets. Anyone that doesn’t not see that is a moron and ignorant as well.

  • Sean

    this
    idea of publicly expressing your opinions and ramifications in the
    professional world was previously a VERY (its still legal in 29 states to get fired for simply being homosexual!!!) big issue for the LGBT community in the
    workplace. Hence the movement. When you look at it that way, its obvious
    it goes both ways. Sure, the writer is correct, its not an attack on
    freedom of speech – but the inability of so many “activists” (including
    this writer) to agree to disagree is only going to separate you from the
    very support (and movement!!!) you’re needing. ::facepalm::
    I also genuinely believe these movements, just like the feminist movement, would benefit from a different categorization like a “sexual rights movement” as opposed to limiting yourself to the choir. What will give these movements steam is when the public realizes that through these movements its for the betterment of *everyone’s* rights.
    The irony is just spitting in my face. Reminds me of the self-proclaimed feminists I speak with who refuse to use the term “gender-rights activist.”

  • aed1226

    Leviticus is in the old testament. Christians live by the New testament when Jesus came and died for our sins on the cross. So all the things you listed about not wearing blended clothing and not eating shell fish and what not is a Jewish thing because Jews live by the old testament, not christians. Do your research before you write an article!

    • Richard Thomas

      All the things Phil was talking about are OT too. Make up your mind.

  • Expertintravel

    I am a little lost on the comments in this article. The author is judging if Phil Robertson is intelligent or not. I haven’t read the GQ article but I am sure that the media has blown this way out of proportion. As for his judging his intelligence, I don’t really know who’s qualified to do this. If Phil Robertson is making comments that you don’t agree with, then don’t agree – this is freedom of speech – not freedom of speech unless I don’t agree with it – then it’s ignorance. Now who is the ignorant one???

  • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

    So Statist Libs, let me get this straight…Barack Obama can lie about your healthcare, lie about Benghazi, lie about Fast & Furious, lie about the NSA, and lie about the IRS, say “if he had a son,” interject himself into matters that have no relevance to him all while continuing to destroy this country and keep his job and you sheeple still call him your Messiah, but Phil Robertson can’t speak out about his faith, speak of his God, give his opinion and beliefs and keep his? Typical Liberal “Tolerance” and hypocrisy! Hey “Tolerant” Libtards: Don’t ask for tolerance of your own lifestyle and then deny someone else the same!

    • Richard Thomas

      Wait… are you seriously blaming A&E’s decision on Obama? Are you really that paranoid? It’s a PRIVATE COMPANY of which he was an employee. Go to work tomorrow and tell a customer to go to hell and see what your boss says.

      • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

        I never said I blamed it on Obama. Maybe you should re-read it!

  • Shawn Call

    How was he being ignorant about what he thinks about homosexuality. He believes what he believes and let him be. Whoever wrote this article needs to really rethink himself before posting garbage.

    • Damien Roberts

      Well most ignorance comes from a belief set…

  • Patrick

    funny how someone that disagrees with the gay lifestyle is either homophobic or ignorant. You really want to chalk it up to saying “well he just doesn’t know any better.” Coming from the backwoods of Louisiana isn’t a belief system. It’s Christianity and God’s word that he lives by, not some code that backwoods people just aren’t smart enough to realize that homosexual behavior is supposed to be moral because the media says it is.

    • Richard Thomas

      Just because it’s in a religion doesn’t mean it isn’t ignorant.

      • Patrick

        That’s exactly what it means. He stands on a different side of what is apparently a 1 sided argument anymore. Homosexuals can stand on oneside of the line but for anyone that doesn’t agree with that side is ignorant or homophobic.

      • Richard Thomas

        The Quran is used by extremist Muslims to kill people who don’t agree with them. By your own argument, you support this because it’s in a religion. Congratulations, you’re a terrorist.

  • MyConservativeView

    I have to agree with Joe. BTW…My opinion is the LGBT group have come out of the closet taking names and sticking their agenda down the good Christians and Conservatives who are tolerant to their choices. I for one was issued a written warning of sexual harassment by my HR employer. The only comment I made to the offended male homosexual is “I like pretty LADIES” in in spanish. I am a heterosexual tolerant male who likes woman! From the mentioned experience and professional embarrassment, I have become a staunch conservative male intolerant to the screaming by the LGBT people. I do not even condone their movement anymore because now my freedom of speech has been compromised by these people.

  • Taylor Ray Kintigh

    Honestly people, just leave the man alone. He discussed his political views to a magazine that asked them of him. I do not condone what he said, nor do I believe that being gay is a sin, but what is wrong here is the fact that “he never should have been on television”, and A&E is to blame here. Of course they knew the potential backlash that taking a conservative christian family and throwing them in the spotlight for 14 million viewers to see. The risk was worth the reward. It is capitalism. Besides, this will all blow over in the next couple weeks, and the show probably won’t see much change in numbers of hits for the next season. So, really, this is an overreaction to a totally ignorant, but meaningless comment in the long run.

  • Scott Allen

    Why was everyone so surprised by his comments? He has always been vocal of his beliefs and his desire to follow the teachings if Christ as found in the Bible. It was only a matger of time before this topic came up. If A&E wants to put a limit on what its associates say, it should first do a better job of deciding who they put on air.

  • Defendor

    I thinks it funny that the writer called him ignorant because “he was raised to believe homosexuality was gross”. All the religious BS aside, I think man on man is gross and not because of how I was raised. Its gross to me in a basic natural way. If that makes me ignorant so be it. It sounds to me like writer of this column wants not only for us to tolerate homosexuality but to condone and enjoy it. Seriously I think everyone should live the way they want to live, But dont expect me to like it. I dont think its cute or romantic or correct, but its your right to do it. Im gonna stay “ignorant ” over here.

    • Richard Thomas

      Nobody cares if you think people are gross. The difference is you aren’t a mouthpiece for a multi-million dollar corporation that actually gives a fuck about its public image,

      • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

        And nobody cares if you think he is gross. The difference is you are just a loudmouth with no connection to a multi million dollar corporation and you use your mouthpiece for sickening and sinful purposes with other men. Nobody cares about you and the minority of gays in this country trying to push their agenda on everyone else yet being intolerant of other people’s views.

      • Richard Thomas

        Cool story? I’m not really sure if that was even an argument.

      • Malfouka Malfouka

        So basically you only hate gay men. Or are you unaware that women can be gay too?

      • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

        I am well aware, a male posted so I referenced it in a male form. Women can use their mouths for sinful purposes with other women as well!

  • krk_189

    By Mr. Clifton’s logic, shouldn’t we be asking the White House to fire/suspend John Podesta for his ignorant comments too! After all as an employee of the government, he should be held accountable for his ignorant statements.

    • Guest

      Hmm… So you DON’T support freedom of speech… that or the concept of private enterprise eludes you.

  • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

    BREAKING: We are now into the late afternoon hours and just as it was last night and this morning, more people still support Phil Robertson than have signed up for Obamacare!

  • tuttle

    The point is homosexuality is a sin..period.

    • Richard Thomas

      (citation needed)

  • Steve Tettleton

    I dont agree with Phil on some of his views, but make no mistake it is an attack on free speech. Even if it isnt he is being wronged and if you cant see that then you are not a person I would want to be friends with.
    So he doesnt have the same views as you, should we try to destroy him. Thats not right. We dont do that to you.
    Did A&E know he was controversial? Oh yeah and since they have made thier fortune off of him and….NOW… decide he is offensive…….I call bullshit.
    Most of america agrees with the robersons lifestyle
    what is so appealing to the viewers is we have a lot in common with him. and what executive was so stupid to think.. wow this show is number one,
    but couldnt figure out if we have prayer on the show and christian beliefs and this out-spoken man as the patriarch . lets pull him and not understand that WE will be the ones that are judged harshly.
    Genuis thats why the exects get the big bucks..
    Plus I want to apologize to Homosexuals out there just because we are christians doesnt mean we all have the same exact ideas.

    • Chaduke

      Its an attack on unpopular speech based on marketing strategy.

    • Richard Thomas

      The First Amendment doesn’t guarantee the right to a TV show.

  • scottsgirl

    Robertson’s comment show just how UN-Christian he really is. Here is one bible verse he obviously forgot “you are all one in Christ Jesus.”

  • Agnostic

    The bible has proven to contain many falsehoods and lies as it was
    written and re-written and edited and -reedited so many times. They
    don’t call it the King James bible cause its a catchy title. if you
    would like an example of just one proven lie, the earth is older than
    6-7k years old. dinosaurs did not hang with Jesus. In all reality,
    anyone and i mean anyone that claims that they know for a fact what
    happens when we die, is a LIAR. The most honest, humble answer anyone
    could have is, ” I don’t know” claiming certainty is fooling yourself
    and is destructive to our entire race. You are Christian because of the
    geographical location in which you were born and raised. had you been
    born in turkey, you’d be Muslim, china Buddhist, ect. people need to grow
    up, and accept the fact that 1, we all die, and 2, no one knows for
    sure what that means after it happens. Claiming that you do, makes you a
    LIAR, believing it, makes you mentally

  • knowyourfacts

    First of all the bible isn’t a book of rules. The Bible is a love story of Christ and a way of life for Christians. Secondly when the bible talks about eating shellfish that’s in the old testament. The new testament is how Christians should live their life as a guide. I guess we all know who is biblically ignorant from writing this story and then the person who published it…

    • Chaduke

      The gospels are only a small part of the larger Bible as a whole, that which a large amount of Christians consider to be all-inclusive and the infallible word of God. If all that mattered was the gospels then none of this would be an issue since homosexuality is not covered in the gospels.

  • karenbrown65

    Of
    course it isn’t. Unless they get arrested, fined ,the government tries
    to suppress them using the courts or military, their first amendment
    rights are just dandy. The Constitution gives you the rights to FREE
    speech, nobody has the ‘inalienable right’ to be paid for it. And AMC has the right to cut loose anyone threatening their bottom line. What are the Robertsons? Commies?

  • Pam

    I don’t agree with what he said, but I defend his right to say it.

  • Scott

    I’m glad you didn’t try to crucify this poor sap for his stupid opinions. All this will serve to do is make this show even more popular than before with their target audience. I agree that this was niether shocking nor specifically homophobic. I mean; what did you expect his views on homosexuality to be? That being said I disagree with the writers asertion that one has to be raised to believe homosexuality is “gross”. I’m sorry if it’s not my preferred sexual partner then it may just be a little “gross” to me. That doesn’t apply exclusively to members of the same sex as me either. The thought of sex with some women maybe “gross” to me as well. If it is unfair to judge ones sexual preference then it is also unfair to judge ones sexual turn offs. Being grossed out should by peoples sexual behavior should not put one in the same catagorie as a Phil Robertson. Nor should it qualify me as ignorant. I’m sure my parents have every right to enjoy a healthy attraction to one another. Sorry though the thought of it is a bit gross. This reaction seems perfectly natural to me.

  • Tiffany Walt O’Brien

    This is the most ridiculous article I’ve ever read. These are his views. He’s entitled to them. Who are you to call his views stupid and ignorant? He is a Christian, as am I. I agree with him – I do not believe being gay is “right” meaning it is not supported by Biblical text. With that said, two of my best friends are lesbian… one happens to be my aunt. I do not judge her, I am not mean to her, I love her all the same. The way she lives her life is her prerogative. Bottom line, everyone needs to get off this guy. He can believe what he wants and so can you. Don’t attack him for it. Don’t call him redneck, backwoods, ignorant blah blah blah. It makes you look like the ignorant one.

  • Non-ignorant Citizen

    It’s not ignorance to say he doesn’t believe in that lifestyle. It is ignorant however to say that no gay person has ever committed bestiality, or slept with other men and/or woman. Like you do in your article. Because he says those things doesn’t mean he was taught that. That is very ignorant to say. How do you know he hasn’t “learned” beings gay is gross? I have a homosexual father and I love him but being gay is extremely gross to me… Not how I was raised but what I learned. The author of this post is EXTREMELY IGNORANT!

    • Damien Roberts

      And your post just assured us all that you know exactly what ignorance means.

  • http://leonardbowcott.com/ Leonard Bowcott

    Seriously?!?! I don’t watch Duck Dynasty and the Robertson’s are all not my type of people.. That said, what is wrong with a man giving his opinion on anything? If you don’t agree with his opinion do what I do, don’t watch the show and don’t ever talk to him if you happen to find yourself in the same room. But if you want to be free, enjoy real freedom, you have to accept that people will say things you don’t like or agree with, and you have to defend their right to say it. Letting corporations and government decide what you can say and can hear is fascism, plain and simple. Once we allow ourselves to be lead down that road there’s no return, and you are nothing but a penned up sheep for the rest of your life.

    • Richard Thomas

      Corporations can decide what you can say when they pay you millions of dollars to be a mouthpiece.

      • http://leonardbowcott.com/ Leonard Bowcott

        Good point, but if someone watches TV shows, reads newspapers and magazines, or listens to radio that are censored they have already fallen into the trap. They are not getting balanced information, but rather one person’s or a board’s determination of what the public must be swayed to believe. Fox News and CNN are prime examples. I never watch ether because they are not news networks. Both are platforms for slanted, totally bias promotions or political or corporate positions. I watch the BBS and Al Jazeera English, weigh the reports of both and arrive at my own determination of what the facts are. Both report factually, but obviously from totally different perspectives, so thought is required to arrive at what I need to know based on the society and community I live in..

  • Mark Mahoney

    Excellent! He has a right to free speech; he doesn’t have a right to a lucrative job on a reality TV show. Palin and the other idiots who are trying to make an issue of this have no clue about the Constitution.

    • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

      Speaking of the Constitution, how well has Barack Obama followed that thing? I guess the Constitution’s interpretation is only right when Liberals say so!

      • Mark Mahoney

        This isn’t a liberal or conservative issue. The Duck Dynasty issue has nothing to do with free speech or the Constitution because he’s being persecuted by his employer, not the government. And for the record, I lean liberal philosophically, but I think Obama’s polices on government transparency and spying on American citizens through the NSA are a violation of our civil rights.

  • Carlton

    This article for the most part is garbage. You’re right his veiws where different than the commmpunies and for that they are able to discipline however they see fit. But to call him stupid and ignorant proves your ignorance and stupidity. He didn’t condemn anyone to hell as you suggested, and he’s right it’s not natural.

    By the way since you’re so well learned and not ignorant what so ever you’d know that tattoos are not expressly condemned in the bible.

    • Richard Thomas

      ‘Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD.
      Leviticus 19:28

  • Santo Lauro

    So he should have gone against what he believes and towed the PC line just to keep things in line???

    • Damien Roberts

      Nay, he should have been taught how to answer the question in a more polite manner. Believe it or not, most homosexuals can handle being told, “I don’t agree with that lifestyle.” Its heard often enough, THAT SAID, its entirely reasonable that they’d get upset when someone compares them to terrorists.

  • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

    Dear Libs: Intolerance is not speaking what you believe when asked like Phil Robertson did, intolerance is attacking someone for not believing like you do, just like all of you Liberals did!

    • Brian Frang

      Comparing homosexuality to beastiality IS definitely intolerant, because those arguments are the exact arguments used to keep homosexuals from getting equal rights. If you said “What do you think of black people” and I replied “I think they’re stupid, lazy, ignorant thieves, and letting them marry white people will lead to the breakdown of traditional marriage” (I don’t believe that, by the way, cuz that kind of belief is stupid), that would STILL be intolerant of me to say, WHETHER OR NOT I WAS ASKED MY OPINION.

      Calling him a bigoted redneck for holding those beliefs, however, is NOT intolerant, since he is, by definition, both a bigot and a redneck. A private company firing him for publicly announcing his bigoted beliefs is NOT intolerant, it’s just good business sense, he was going to cost them ad revenue. Now, if we threw him in jail for expressing his beliefs, THAT would be intolerant, as well as unconstitutional.

      • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

        So I guess you support MSNBC keeping Al Sharpton on the payroll and A&E not suspending the two guys from storage wars who said they prefer a “man’s A$$?”

      • Brian Frang

        What the hell does that have to do with anything? For the record, yes, I DO support private companies’ decisions to choose who they want to work for them. Al Sharpton and the dudes from storage wars do not have opposing political viewpoints to their employer that they publically expressed as an agent of said company. Robertson did. Interview was about his show, therefore he was representing A&E. It’s not that hard a concept, idiot.

      • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

        Typical expected Liberal response! What does it have to do with anything? Both Sharpton and the Storage War guys are representatives of their companies even when they speak privately about their beliefs, just as the Storage War guys did to TMZ and just as Al Sharpton does daily, yet in typical Liberal fashion they are only “tolerant” of those that agree with them! I guess it’s ok for Liberals to spew their opinions just not a Conservative! Typical Liberal Logic!

      • Guest

        Typical Liberal Logic and explanation…in other words its “OK” for Liberals to say what they want to, as they are only tolerant of those that agree with them! “Do as I say, not as I do!”

      • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

        Typical Liberal Logic! In other words its “OK” for Liberals do it and speak their opinion, because Liberals are only tolerant of those that think as they do!

      • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

        The Storage War Guys and Al Sharpton are both representatives of their companies and speak their opinions publically. As a representative of A&E The Storage War guys voiced their opinion to TMZ. What’s the difference? Oh I see, In other words what you are saying is, if Liberals say it, it’s ok…if not then DAMN THEM ALL! I’m sure you’re a proud supporter of Obamacare too!

  • Greg

    Load of CRAP!!!! Who ever wrote this article is talking out of is rear!!!!!

  • jj

    I look at it this way:

    The subject of homosexuality is a complicated one, and there are a variety of opinions all over the spectrum; many of which are sound and fair. Sure, if a person flat-out rejects another individual entirely on their sexual orientation, I’d get on-board that this is an act of bigotry. But no one should be held at gunpoint for disagreeing with a lifestyle or behavior. If we can question the existence of a higher being, then we can certainly also question a person’s sexual preference. There is absolutely nothing wrong with questioning or disagreeing with these things, so long as we can do so in a respectful manner and are tolerant of different people. Are we as a people incapable of accepting a person without having to agree or like *everything* about them?

    That all being said, unfortunately for Robertson, he completely came off sounding like a total jackass. Had he conveyed his opinions in a more respectful and dignified manner, I would be more inclined to defend him his freedom of speech being violated. But when he awkwardly tried to compare the “hole” versus the “pole”, he was pretty much toast. Not to mention his bizarre suggestion that African Americans were somehow “hunky dory” during the Jim Crow years. And Sarah Palin and Bobby Jindal’s comments aren’t exactly helping the situation.

    • Malfouka Malfouka

      What the f*ck is there to “agree” about? Some folks are gay and some folks aren’t. It’s a simple fact of biology like being left-handed or colour blind. Only an asshole hates someone for anything other than the quality of his character.

  • stillable2 bshocked

    Its not ignorance, or the way we are raised because when I was growing up we had no clue there was such a thing as “gay”. Very rarely the word “queer” was tossed out but people (my friends and myself) really had no clue what it was all about. I have many gay friends now and consider myself certainly more enlightened than my parents. That being said, I still have a hard time getting past the visuals of 2 men “going at it”. I am sorry but some of the visuals are gross.

  • Lee Oswald

    I hate fags to!!!…so what!!! It’s my fucking right! Don’t like it?? Then eat my shit!

    • Brian Frang

      It’s “too”, you ignorant fuckwad. It’s 3 fucking letters, how can you not get that right?

      And for the record, it’s your right to hate “fags”, as you call them. It is also within MY right to say you are a worthless, bigoted waste of human DNA.

  • attiegirl

    What this comes down to is that the interview would not have been available to him had he not been a reality television personality. His opinions are obviously his. But do not confuse this man with an uneducated rube. He has a college degree as do his sons as far as I can research. So he KNOWS how to behave in polite society. This is not just some uneducated redneck spouting about the bible and the condition of the black man before Civil Rights.

    There should have been people in place to put a muzzle on him when doing something that is going to be published. A&E has a legal department – you can bet your bottom dollar on it. And suspending him? Best advertising you can get to have people watch the show.

    Everyone has the right to express themselves. But when you are in the public eye, a paid performer and under contract with a media giant, there are things you do not say. He was obviously expressing his belief. He is welcome to them. But he is not welcome to express those things, in the manner that he did, while representing his stature according to his place in popular reality television. Wanna preach? Join his son at the pulpit.

    Do not dismiss this man as a backwoods, backwater, hillbilly jerk who just does not know better. He is not those things by anything but choice.

    At least all the attention on Phil gets the attention off Sarah Palin and her pretend war on Christmas.

  • rossbro

    Just another inbred idiot. How the HELL can people watch that garbage????

  • guest

    Well he has a right to believe in the Bible. That doesn’t make him homophobic or ignorant in any way he believes in something and therefore it makes him right it is you that is ignorant to a man and his beliefs. I say this and I say this once whatever you believe you are right. know matter what it is. That is freedom of speech. BELIEVE WHATEVER YOU WANT AND DONT WORRY ABOUT WHAT OTHERS BELIEVE!!!

    • Damien Roberts

      Its not the belief in itself, its the things he said to support his belief.

  • bitty1

    What I want to know is how any of you can be mad at him? I dont really care what people do or how they live but you sitting here calling him ignorant is ridiculous. You are being just as bad as you think he is. He doesn’t like gay peoples life style, so what???? You dont like what he said, so what?? Does that mean you’re ignorant to the way he lives??? Millions of people have the same views as him and his family and they might get mad at you for your views, would that be right?? Everyone needs to stop sticking up for certain groups. No matter how you live you have to expect that some people somewhere are not going to like how you live. People dont like Christians or Jehovah’s witnesses or black people or red necks or Muslims or whatever the hell it may be. Get over yourselves. You choose your lifestyle deal with what people say!! Its not anyone else’s problem how you live its your own. And its not like he or they just say stuff about gay people, they say stuff and the show all the time about “city folk” and people with a lot of piercing and whatever else they want. And do you see ANY of them making a big stink and suspending anyone?!? If you dont like what they say dont watch the show as simple as that. Everybody know what they’re like and how they are and they’re beliefs I REALLY dont understand what the huge deal is about. There is absolutely no reason he should be suspended from a show that millions of people have watched and loved thats all about him and his family. That is what’s really stupid here!!!

    • Malfouka Malfouka

      What exactly is “gay peoples life style [sic]“?

      • careless in md

        You have sex with your same gender. That is a gay lifestyle. You say don’t push your beliefs on me, well then you do the same, you inconsiderate hypocrite.

      • Malfouka Malfouka

        So, as a presumably heterosexual person, are you defined solely by your sexual activity?

        Furthermore, no one is pushing any “beliefs” on you; you’re free to be a bigoted asshole.

    • Damien Roberts

      He does have a right to his opinion and if it were as simple as, “i don’t agree with that lifestyle,” he might be not getting so much flack. That said, he also has a right to the consequences from making comments like that…people aren’t going to like it and it will bite you.

  • chucky2a

    Allen, come up into the New Testament where God Himself said that all things are available to mankind. He removed all of the restrictions except those He considered abominable. But then, Allen, we know which side of the belief you come up on.

  • Quincy

    If you are going to reference the Bible, please be accurate. Leviticus is in the Old Testament, therefore the rules stated in Leviticus are part of the Old Covenant – the set of rules to live by before Jesus came to Earth. When Jesus died there was a New Covenant formed. So the rules of blended clothing, tattoos, and shellfish no longer apply.

    • Malfouka Malfouka

      So, answer me this, if Christians no longer regard the commandments and edicts of the Old Testament to be relevant and Jesus said nada, zip, zilch about homosexuality, then why do you christofacists insist on condemning gay folks? Why do you, as a group, continue to drag out that tired old Leviticus quote (you know the one) as justification for your hatred and bigotry?

  • Gregory Petersen

    I find it funny that the Q-boys are making less of an issue of this whole thing than are the bleeding heart, anus brain liberals.

  • Brian Frang

    Ok, this is just one nitpick that really bugs me about leftist anti-Leviticus arguments: Most of them are valid, but NOT the shellfish argument, because the kashrut was SPECIFICALLY cancelled in the New Testament (Jew in the desert, hungry, God provides all kinds of “unclean” animals, man protests, angel of God says “do not call anything I have put on this earth unclean for consumption). There are many, MANY Leviticus laws that are violated regularly by so-called “Christians”, but the kashrut is not one of them, because it does not apply to Christianity.

    To be clear, I am very much left of center, and an atheist, and I REALLY hate assholes like Phil Robertson, but frankly, we sound stupid when we use dietary laws as an argument against fundamentalists, because those laws do not apply to Christians, only Jews.

    • Brian Frang

      And for the record, just in case anyone wants to dismiss my points as a conservative troll (since, apparently, some people would rather accuse, then take a look at my comment history and see just how radically anti-teathuglicant I actually am), I’d like to remind all the CONservatives in the audience that the First Amendment only protects Robertson, or any citizen, for that matter, from being ARRESTED for their opinions and expression. It DOES NOT protect bigots from public backlash against antiquated, prejudicial beliefs that are only held by the most despicable of people. A&E were perfectly within their rights, as a private corporation, to say “Your views conflict with ours, and it’s hurting our public image, sorry, but you’re fired.”. Robertson was not jailed, not imprisoned, he just had to deal with other people’s free speech.

  • marci2elliott

    There is no ignorance or stupidity involved with what Phil Robertson said.

    • Brian Frang

      Cant tell if being sarcastic…. or just an idiot….

      • Malfouka Malfouka

        My money is on “idiot.”

      • Jack Barnaby

        It is illogical, it is immoral, and it is a disorder. Coming from an actual mental health physician.

      • Brian Frang

        Then you need to lose your license, because the American Psychiatric Association, and the American Medical Association, and the DSM-IV all do NOT list homosexuality as a mental disorder, so you’re going AGAINST the grain of accepted medical psychiatry.

      • Jack Barnaby

        How exactly is it not then? It is an abnormality that occurs in smaller numbers an the general populous and also is completely against the theory of evolution.

      • Brian Frang

        The definition of a mental disorder, according to the APA and DSM-IV is “a mental or behavioral pattern or anomaly that causes distress or disability, AND which is not developmentally or socially normative”; the “and” is an important point, because simply not being “normal” is NOT enough to define a person as being mentally ill. The anomalous behavior HAS to cause considerable distress or disability to the person. Homosexuality does NOT cause distress or disability, however, homophobia, like what you have shown, DOES cause distress and disability. So, yeah, you suck as a mental health professional.

      • Malfouka Malfouka

        You know what actually is immoral, bigotry.

      • Jack Barnaby

        Have I used slurs against homosexuals? No, I believe they are people just like us with problems. I believe with research, it could be changed easily.

      • Brian Frang

        Even though literally EVERY STUDY EVER PERFORMED ON THE MATTER says that being gay isn’t a disorder and trying to “fix” it only causes depression, suicide, post-traumatic stress disorder and low self-esteem.

      • AniZaeger

        “It is illogical”: According to whom? How do you know that there isn’t some natural, biological reason why a certain percentage of individuals are homosexual? Why does it happen in animals? I guess it’s because animals are illogical.

        “it is immoral”: Who are you to decide what is and isn’t immoral in the lives of people who may not even share your religious beliefs? Last I checked, individuals had freedom of religion. At about this point, you can stop shoving your religion down my throat, and start shoving it up your ass.

        “and it is a disorder. Coming from an actual mental health physician”: As a mental health physician, aren’t you required to be up-to-date with modern research in order to keep your license?

      • Jack Barnaby

        What is your proof that it is not a disease? It is an abnormality as compared to the general populous, as an abnormality in the human body, it is a disorder.

      • Damien Roberts

        Where do you work? Because you basically go against everything the APA has declared…

      • AniZaeger

        Where is your proof that is is a disease? There is FAR more research that supports that homosexuality is natural than there is supporting your claim that it is a “disease”. Since you seem to claim that it is a sickness, does that mean that I should be able to call in gay when I don’t want to go to work, or that I should be legally entitled to claim disability benefits as a homosexual?

      • Jack Barnaby

        Well? No comment? My point is valid.

      • AniZaeger

        Apparently, you think that other people spend the entirety of their time following a thread just to reply to you. You might want to consider that other people have lives and jobs, and don’t spend every moment of every day trolling a site. Of course, I wouldn’t expect an uneducated bigot who choses a path of voluntary ignorance, aka stupidity, to understand that. And regarding your claim to be a “mental health professional”, I can accept that, but I can also accept that you probably aren’t very well respected in your field. In fact, I believe the proper term would be “quack”. BTW, I did reply to your comment, and you have yet to post a rebuttal. Since you are unwilling to engage in an actual debate, and are just completely disregarding your opposition’s points without any form of counterargument, you have proven, by default, that your point is invalid.

  • Jack Barnaby

    I honestly believe homosexuallity is a type of disorder. In which the textbook definition of “disorder” is something that is against the normality of human existence. This would also make sense for the inability for a homosexual person to reproduce with another of the same sex, which would mean, no matter what you believe, that homosexuality is a disorder. It does not comply with evolution either, for instance: evolution is supposed to make humans adapt and survive and create offspring, whereas a homosexual cannot. I believe in ways that they should be able to find a way to actually “cure” this disorder. Sincerely, Someone who believes in normality. Comment please:) I know everyone loves to hear that homosexuality is an abnormality!

    • Brian Frang

      If homosexuality is so “abnormal” why does it occur in so many other species OTHER than humans (over 450 documented species)? You want to know how it can be something perfectly natural? Population control. Like you said, gay people don’t procreate. So they don’t have babies, which keeps the population from exploding. Similar phenomena are found in many animals.

      • Jack Barnaby

        Heart disease and depression are also found in animals, my friend.

      • Brian Frang

        Did you seriously just compare being gay to heart disease and depression? Cuz, seriously, you’re proving more and more that you should NOT be practicing mental health. First off, being gay is not harmful to your health. Not mentally, not emotionally, not physically. YOu know what IS harmful to gay people’s health? And this is supported by real, hard science, unlike your pseudo-scientific bullshit that, in no way jives with modern accepted scientific theory. It’s a proven fact that living in a world where people tell them they’re wrong, or immoral, or sick IS harmful to their mental, emotional and physical health. You are a fucking moron, a quack, and you should stay FAR away from the mentally ill.

    • Malfouka Malfouka

      Homosexuality is not abnormal as it occurs at a stable, steady rate and has done so throughout human history. Also, homosexuality occurs in pretty much all species of animal. Like left handedness, it’s not common, but, also like being left-handed, it is in no way abnormal.

      • Jack Barnaby

        Left-handedness is also not a crushing blow to evolution.

      • Jack Barnaby

        Humanity can survive with a left hand, however two people of the same sex cannot reproduce, therefore the human race COULD NEVER SURVIVE.

      • Malfouka Malfouka

        My disingenuous friend, humans are in no way in danger of going extinct through lack of reproduction. Also, being gay does not preclude one from reproducing, trust me.

      • Jack Barnaby

        In a matter of speaking, according to evolution, it has no place in this world. And I am well aware that there are over 7 billion people living on planet earth, just speaking in terms of logic.

      • Jack Barnaby

        Well I believe my point is now valid.

      • Brian Frang

        Except no, no it isn’t. The human race is in NO way in danger of going extinct due to lack of reproduction. You obviously have literally no understanding of evolution if you believe homosexuality is against evolution. Repeat after me: Homosexuality is an evolved behavior found in MOST species of animal, especially in ecosystems with overpopulation problems. It is NO more dangerous to human evolution than being left-handed or black is. It’s just a very simple natural biological function to keep natural equilibrium. You remember learning about equilibrium in 7th grade life sciences, right?

    • http://www.redheadedfemme.com/ BB-Mystic

      Gay couples do procreate, though. Lesbians have babies via artificial
      insemination; gay couples have children via surrogate mothers. Or they
      adopt. Sexual orientation and reproduction are two different things.

      Also, who are you to decide what is “normal”? Homosexual orientation is perfectly normal to the gay person; in most cases, being attracted to a person of the same sex is all they’ve ever known. As far as science can determine, there have always been gay people throughout human history; they just didn’t come out in centuries past because they were, you know, IN FEAR FOR THEIR LIVES.

      Thank goodness the majority of humanity is growing up.

  • Zelda

    When people say they “hate the sin, love the sinner,” they are not making sense. Sexuality is not an act, it is part of who you are. It is a state of existence. Sex is an act. Sexuality is not. You cannot separate the so-called sin from the so-called sinner. Let’s say you are straight as an arrow, yet you never have sex from this day forward. You would still be straight, right? Or let’s say you are gay, but you never have sex again. You’d still be gay. Even if you do not perform the act of sex, your sexuality does not change. Get it?

  • matt

    ok but heres the thing they have a show about him and his family that is suppose to portray them for who they really are, how did you think a devout christian would feel about homosexuality? come on lets be serious would you have an atheist host a christian programmed channel? no because you know what his responses are going to be and A&E shouldnt act so surprised about Phil’s comments

    • GR

      Actually an atheist educated in the bible would do a great job hosting a show! Go to colleges and look at the theological/religion professors I bet you’d find some who are atheists. They don’t need to be confrontational. I personally appreciate the Bible for the foundation that it has provided to many authors. You don’t need to be religious to enjoy it as a text or to study it. You realize you’d probably want to stay away from saying its all bullshit while you are talking to a believer but you certainly could talk to them by selecting which opinions you’d like to share about the text and carefully framing them to that audience.

    • Malfouka Malfouka

      There ARE such persons who are devout Christians who have zero problem with homosexuality and, in fact, unlike hateful pseudo-Christians, these remarkable people actually live the philosophy.

      • careless in md

        If you accually opened youre mind and read what he said, he never ever said he hated the gays. He simply stated he felt it was wrong and didn’t understand it, but that, the lord also told him to love everyone and he loves all humanity equally, even the ones he disagrees with.

      • Malfouka Malfouka

        You are probably one of the last people who should be advising anyone to “open [her] mind.” Not only are you seriously challenged on the reading comprehension front, but your reply to me is little more than word salad. I would suggest opening your mind to the possibility of basic education.

  • [email protected]

    I didnt hear anyone from the GOP calling ‘Freedom of Speech’ when Martin Bashir gave his opinion of Sarah Palin and got fired. Nor when the Dixie Chicks CDs were bashed and burned…or when Jane Fonda made her opinion knows. Freedom of speech works both ways, GOP.

  • carless in md

    If people want to watch this its their option, if you think its stupid, don’t freaking watch it! Yes he is responsible for how he represents A&E, BUT he shouldn’t have to apologize to these assosiations because he offended them.
    The gays offend him, and that’s how he felt, he isn’t asking them to apologize for how they feel. And the whole African-American thing is just his perspective, how he saw it. All you calling names, and pointing fingers need to take a look at who’s being a bit of a hypocrite. And I’m just putting it out there, I am a Christian who is completely supportive of gayrights.

    • Damien Roberts

      I think you need to look at how and why they were offended. He gave a very public opinion on homosexuals, what did homosexuals DO to him?

  • Steve

    How convenient of the writer to not include the rest of the article. Typical media bias.

  • Denise Carter

    Thank you, thank you, thank you for a voice of reason.

  • Joshua King

    This isn’t the place to begin arguments and discussions, cyberspace and ambiguity, like screaming into a void. However, I will say being a college-learned man I have seen just how media and even stories like the one written here can spin and twist the reader/viewer through their own lens to agree with them or out of shame or guilt point fingers all in the same direction, despite them being outright wrong. The real human condition is never addressed and so will never be cured. We are shooting in the dark and injuring ourselves. Light is not embraced because to embrace it would first mean pain and let’s face it, no one has time or want for that despite the saving outcome. This situation is just the tiniest chip into a pillar of this nation that is already splintering. Our “forward progression” is nothing new and as history repeats itself we are sure to find ourselves a memory long-forgotten, a tragedy in the pages of the victor. I’m certain my words will be scoffed and ridiculed, if not today, then tomorrow, but I’m tired of lying silent and pretending humankind is bettering itself. Where is my freedom? It’s not in the approval of the masses or in the cheering of a religious sect, it comes from within and knowing myself and where I stand in relationship. All I ask is that whoever reads this, think. Not quickly and mindlessly because that is not thinking. Reflect on yourself and how your soul settles with information and what you know to be right. Do not be fooled by the charade put on by the masses. Your mind is made to discern, unless you dedicate it to foolishness. I do not agree with this author because half of his negative points are made with illegitimate facts a child could have pulled up. but I’m not here to argue, just to draw out awareness… If you’re confused, I apologize, I am talking to you…YHWH bless

  • donttreadonme76

    So now that everyone is supposed to accept and welcome the gay movement and be happy about it and now your are not allowed to disagree with it without being called ignorant? Your quoting the Bible here and nobody mentioned how man should never lay with man. Althoulgh I am not against it and I do not believe in your Bible , I still do think it is an attack on free speech, the questions were asked, and they were answered in his opinion ( so far it is still legal to have one of those) so far…

    • Malfouka Malfouka

      Hey, how about women? Can we lay with each other?

  • renebest

    Ugly heart, ugly mind – uglier than an anus.

  • DIVEY85

    I am a gay guy who thinks A&E did the Wrong thing by suspending phil robertson indefinitely

  • Madison Blane

    Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him? I Corinthians – 11:14
    See, I can quote the Bible, too!

    If Phil worked at a restaurant and you were an overweight person who came in to order, and he told you, “Gluttony is a sin; sinners have no place in God’s kingdom, and I believe gluttons like you are nasty like cows and pigs!” would you expect him to keep that job? It is perfectly fine for Phil to believe certain things are a sin – FOR HIM, in his own life. It is completely WRONG to use those personal beliefs to marginalize or judge others – especially not while representing a company who claims to hold opposite views and values. That’s exactly why religion is personal!

    It is NOT suppression of free speech nor is it religious persecution for an individual to disagree with you; nor is it bigotry when several people adamantly disagree with you. It IS bigotry when a person strongly and unfairly dislikes other people (usually without ever meeting the individual) based on arbitrary, uncontrollable, characteristics (such as race or sexuality) and is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to and focused on their own prejudices; especially when that person regards or treats all members of a group (a group which an individual has no choice but to be a part of) as inferior, with hatred and/or intolerance.

    Phil compared gay people to those who abuse animals. He compared Japanese people to Nazis and murderers and said they were that way because they ‘didn’t have Jesus’, showing his vast ignorance and unfair judgments about people he’s never met! He sees no reason that black people should have been granted equality. I’d like to point out that NOT ONE of these views are part of ‘Christianity’. He is prejudiced against entire groups of people before ever seeing them or learning who they are AS INDIVIDUALS. His freedom of speech hasn’t been suppressed, A&E just refuses to provide him with a megaphone!

    Gays don’t choose to be gay. Blacks don’t choose to be black. Japanese don’t choose to be born Japanese. However, I know several ‘Christians’ -like Phil claims to be – who most certainly choose to be bigots!

  • Gregory Petersen

    Quaaaaaaaack Quaaaaaaack!

  • Jihn

    Hey dip heads… The Duck man is bigger than A&E. He chose his desnity and went out in in blaze of glory. Do you think he cares what you na Sayers think? I would say Duck Dynasty and its supporters may be equal to the fags and their supporters. Lets draw a line in the sand and get it on ya teabaggers. :)

    • Malfouka Malfouka

      *destiny*
      *naysayers*

  • J

    First of all I am not “anti-gay”. But I would like to point out a few facts. Your second quote from Phil Robertson states

    “Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men.”

    In his documentary “I am second” Phil Robertson states he cheated and slept around on his wife. With that being said, he put himself on the same level of sin and he indulged in what he now believes is sin. This statement was not focused just on homosexual behavior, but rather all things that he considers sin. He was not saying he is better than any one else, he simply stated sin is sin no matter what the act.

    He also puts himself out there on the third quote

    “Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers — they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.”

    He was an adulator, he was a drunk. My point being is Phil Robertson put himself in the same category as homosexuals and other things he believes is sin. He was not just pointing out one certain group of people. He was including everyone who has indulged in sin including himself according to his beliefs.

  • Billie Wilson

    I find it hilarious that you could call that first comment gay hating. If a gay man said vagina’s were nasty no one would fret about it even though it is offensive to women. Though if a straight man who obviously can’t wrap his head around the idea of probing another man says so he is a homophobe…? Okay whatever. Your logic is terrible, but that is your right I suppose.

    • Damien Roberts

      You can condense the first comment all you want, but we all know that his statement ended with “sin isn’t logical”.

  • Bug

    And is Allen Clifton or anyone else commenting here an attorney?? Doubt it. A real legal opinion would advise all of you well.

  • G Hegel

    To quote the last line of this article: “And I feel sorry for the millions of people who are too ignorant to understand the difference.” Allen Clifton, your comment is more personally insulting than anything Phil Robertson has said. While he may have been criticizing behavior he disagrees with, you are personally insulting everyone who disagrees with you. I guess free speech should only be allowed if the opinions expressed are the “correct” opinions.

    • Malfouka Malfouka

      Apparently reading comprehension is not in your skill set as Mr. Clifton’s article directly argues that the suspension of Phil Robertson is NOT a “free speech” issue. Clifton writes, “Is Mr. Robertson being thrown in jail or prosecuted for his remarks? Of course not. They’re his own personal views — which he has every right to believe, no matter how ignorant they might be.” No one is saying Robertson shouldn’t be allowed to be as big of a racist, misogynistic, homophobic jerk as he wants, rather we are saying that sometimes there are consequences for doing so; “free speech” laws protect one from being arrested and/or imprisoned, not from being socially censured.

      • 1st Am. Advocate

        Wrong! 1st Am. rights may be violated without the threat of criminal penalties. Ex ante limitations on speech are equally violative of the 1st Am., and such limitations are often drafted into employment contracts, albeit unenforceably. The FCC is under constant threat of suit for censorship on 1st Am. grounds; only unprotected speech, i.e., obscenity, incitement, etc., may the FCC censor. Please understand legal concepts before attempting to articulate them!

      • Brian Frang

        FCC is a government organization, not a private company. Private companies are NOT, I repeat, NOT bound by the First Amendment. Try again.

    • Damien Roberts

      He wasn’t expressing an opinion…the first amendment protects you from the law, not reputation and not employer. Thats a fact…as Mr. Robertson has learned.

  • Cammie Wires

    GQ asked HIS opinion though. It’s not like he just went around telling everyone how he feels about homosexuality. THAT is something people are failing to see. yeah you may not agree with what he said, WHICH IS PERFECTLY FINE, but its not like he sits there telling people how wrong they are for being gay. He may not believe in homosexuality, but he doesn’t point his finger at you and tell you you’re going to hell because of it. grow up people.

    • Brian Frang

      He could have chosen not to comment, as I’ve had to do MANY times at jobs I work; since he knows it’s not a popular opinion, and he had to have known there would be backlash. He has his right to talk about it, and we have a right to insult him for his bigoted opinions.

    • Brian Frang

      And, for the record, what is pissing people off, if you’d actually READ his comment, were the comparisons between homosexuality and beastiality, and promiscuity, as well as his history of racism (this is the same guy who said that black people were happy with Jim Crow laws)

  • 1st Am. Advocate

    1st Am protects students in schools, journalists working for news networks, precludes judicial action that may act as a prior restraint, and is substantially more important than sexual orientation. It’s the 1st Am. that laid the foundation for the GLBT community to inform the masses of their views and ideals. It is hypocritical to disregard the importance of the 1st Am. when it is inconvenient for the GLBT cause, but then embrace it when you do thing like WRITE THIS ARTICLE, which is protected by the 1st Am.

    • Brian Frang

      OK, repeat after me: The First Amendment to the United States Constitution has been ruled, on several occasions, by the Supreme Court, to ONLY apply to the government, and NOT to private corporations. Fox News can fire a liberal reporter for making liberal statements on-air, and that is LEGAL. It is ALSO legal for A&E, a PRIVATE COMPANY to fire Phil Robertson for professing conservative beliefs on air, when he is doing so as a representative and employee of A&E, which he was, in that interview. There was NO First Amendment violation, here, and there would not be one unless A&E was owned by the government, or if Mr. Robertson was jailed for expressing his beliefs.

      • Brian FagReng

        It was in a magazine article. His agency relationship with A&E does not extend to an interview with GQ.

      • Brian Frang

        The interview had EVERYTHING to do with Duck Dynasties, which is an A&E property. So, yeah, his agency relationship with A&E DOES, in fact, extend to said interview. Nice try though. Love the pathetic attempt to insult me by messing with my name. Seriously, I heard better name-based insults in the third grade (What, you thought with a last name like “Frang”, I haven’t heard every single pathetic insult your unimaginative brain could even hope to hurl at me? I mean, really, you might want to at least check your spelling, next time, there’s no “e” in my last name, dumbass).

      • Damien Roberts

        *facepalm* If he’s under contract with A&E then he’s held liable at any time.

  • Justin

    You have every right to write this it is your view. I ask you and anyone else reading this why do you let the actions or words of others control you? You can’t say they don’t, because you just wrote about it. You become what ever you give your time to!

  • Chris

    I’m gay and was not offended at all, I watch the show and still will watch it, They should keep Phil on there he’s the one that started am I right? I don’t see anything saying he hates gays, I think a vagina is gross am I straightophobic? NO!

  • Tina

    In regard to this article, how someone was raised IS a learned behavior. And not agreeing with homosexuality does not mean you are “ignorant” about it. I know all about spinach, still don’t like it. But yes, people on TV shows typically have a contract that does not allow specific behavior. So it’s not a free speech issue, its a breach of contract issue. And I think his morph out comment just implied he was generally speaking about all sexual type sins mentioned in the bible, not that one leads to another.

  • mamabear1966

    The writer of this piece of garbage is a complete and total idiot libtard. May he find a big mound of sand and bury his head into it so we never have to hear from him again.

  • Annoyed

    First, Phil should have worded his statement better. I can agree with that.
    Second, you have obviously never read through the Bible. Leviticus was based on a time of God testing His people. He used those rules to see how faithful His people were in those tribes. It says men should never cut their hair, or have sex with their wife while they are on their menstrual cycle.
    How dare you use the Bible against them when you are against it yourself?
    You are the ignorant fool.

  • Jessyi

    I don’t agree with anything written here the ppl asked him thoughts, and these are also what he gets paid for so everyone throws a huge fit? Why? cause this ol redneck has the same opinion as any other redneck u run across I mean really did he come out n openly say Faggot or Queer or anything in a bashing manner? No he gave his opinion oh wait this is the new America where they form those for you….. Pfftttt he answered a question truthfully as he felt he should shut the hell up about it or don’t ask people for their opinions on such hot topics cause 99.9% of the time u hear things u don’t like. This celebrities are held to higher bullspit is just about to gag me, good lord they are only human people aint no different than any of us sitting around a bonfire talking the same razz…. People are entitled to think for themselves sorry main stream they are don’t like it A&E that fine Duck Dynasty will watch just as well on another network once u lose them…..

  • Natalie B.

    I think the entire gay population needs to realize a LOT of people will never understand or approve of what they do. Quit being so offended when people have an opinion on it, it will never change. You have ur own ways and beliefs, let others do the same. I think the gay and lesvian community and A&E aret he real spineless ones in this discussion, cowardly getting rid of him so they wont loose money. I promise you, they just shot theirselves in the foot.

  • LarryEWells

    Phils free speech was not hindered. He said what he wanted to say so he should man up and the whole family should quit bitching. When you PUBLICLY say things that reflect on your employer you get fired PERIOD. Sarah the half term governor bitched about Martin Bashir until he got fired then cried about poor old Phils “rights. I’m sure She will now beg MSNBC to rehire Martin right?

  • Robert

    When Phil says a vagina would be more desirable than a man’s anus… guess he’s tried both a man’s anus and a vagina to know what he’s talking about.

  • Ash

    Alec Baldwin was suspended at msnbc for shouting homophobic slurs. Why aren’t these freedom of speech people angry about that? Is it because he didn’t use the bible as a reference for his hateful bigotry??

    • http://www.bergmannity.com/ William Bergmann

      Maybe because what he said was actually hateful bigotry? It’s interesting that there aren’t any drunks or adulterers or terrorists speaking up about how offended they are.

      It’s fine to be gay, and it’s also fine to hold the opinion that homosexual sex is a sin as defined by your religion. That doesn’t mean that you hate gay people or that you are bigoted.

      Of course, it MIGHT mean that you are bigoted or hateful, but I don’t think that comes through if you read the interview.

      • Ash

        I did read the interview. And drunks, adulterers, and terrorists are defined by the choices they make. I don’t see being gay as a choice. He may of said later that he doesn’t have anything against gay people, but that doesn’t cancel out the point that was he was was offensive. He could have just stated he doesn’t agree with gay marriage and left it at that.

      • http://www.bergmannity.com/ William Bergmann

        First off, let me be clear: I have no issue with anyone sleeping with anyone, in any combination.

        That said, there is a difference between being gay and having homosexual intercourse. That’s where the choice comes into play. You might say that humans are wired to have sex with who they want to, and I would agree with you- but just look at the Catholic Church- it’s not a sin to marry and have sex, but it is to be a Priest and have sex.

        Lastly, we draw the same type of line in criminal law all the time. It’s perfectly legal to find children attractive, and for most of the people that do, they likely have no control over it. Yet, making the choice to have sex with a child IS a crime.

      • Ash

        Priests choose to enter priesthoods knowing and accepting was is and isn’t acceptable. Not everyone lives by the bible, I’m pretty sure most people on earth don’t.And watching or distributing child porn is also illegal, so two consenting samesex adults isn’t the same as an adult and a child. Im just saying what Alec Baldwin said is just as offensive to gay people as what was said in this interview. It doesn’t make sense that one is acceptable to people while the other instance is not.

        If he were to say on this interview that he was a satan worshipper and preceded to insult every Christian. These people would be calling for his suspension, and I’m sure A&E would find suspension reasonable.

        You can’t represent a tv network, then go on an interview and insult a large group of people.

      • http://www.bergmannity.com/ William Bergmann

        Who said anything about watching or distributing child porn? Or that homosexuality and pedophilia are the same? I said that the attraction isn’t a crime, or a sin. From our perspective, a sex act with a child IS a crime, and from many Christians’ point of view, a homosexual sex act is a sin.

        If what Alec Baldwin said was on the same level with what Phil Robertson said, well, I disagree with that on just about every level.

        While I would normally agree with what you say about him being a representative of the network, I don’t here. It can’t have been a surprise to anyone at A&E what his opinion or beliefs were before this debacle. Further, they have been making money off of those beliefs for 4 years now. I’m also not sure that A&E didn’t insult a larger group of people by taking him off the air.

  • John Overfield

    He is only held to a different standard if his contract says so. His suspension is a form of legal ramification.
    Don’t pretend to write an article based on fact unless you include all of them. The fact of the matter is that GQ magazine does not interview someone like Phil Robertson unless they are expecting to be able to print something with some shock value. I wonder how out of context many of the remarks were taken.

  • gophil

    This article is garbage that is all

  • just a christian

    I’m a Christian and this issue is very clear. The guy chose to be flagrant with his views. If you are careful and respectful, people should respect your views, no matter what or who you are. The second you become cocky and ignorant towards anyone is not love, not religion, it’s just plainly the opposite of love, its actually sin and hatred. You can stand up for what you believe in, everyone should be able to, but when you become mean, people lose respect you and your views. Especially when you call yourself a Christian.

  • THE

    The last time I checked this was a reality show. You A&E or Mr. Clifton who ever the hell you are accepted this family as they are. Surely you should know that Phil and the rest of the “Dynasty” would not change their religious beliefs to “conform” to what the A&E execs believe? You A&E should be responsible for the repercussions of your decision to contract this family into doing a “realtiy” show. We don’t want scripted reality, we want reality. If you don’t want the show on your network and don’t agree with the reality they are bringing to the table, then “suspend” the entire cast! Let them be free to be picked up by a REAL network that does not conform and retract everything they believe in and how they were brought up. Mr. Clifton and A&E, you are the ignorant ones for putting this show on the network in the first place. Apparently, you didn’t do your homework. Maybe you should go find a family to do your type of reality? Because this s**t aint real then. By the way, I don’t agree with Phil’s views. I support all the gays, and anyone who follows their happiness for whatever that entails. I don’t support big wig networks who don’t have balls. You need Phil more than he needs you! #respectopinions #freespeech #nofilter

  • Nick A

    I agree with what you are saying. There are consequences for what you say as a celebrity and A&E did what they felt was appropriate.

    So…what if Phil had said “homosexuality and gay marriage are the only way and that all who don’t believe it are wrong” and A&E suspended him…would you have written this article and made the same point? I’m not trying to push buttons, but I think its a fair question and I’m curious what the answer is.

    • http://www.bergmannity.com/ William Bergmann

      I’m not upset with the network over their actions, but because they’ve been making money off his beliefs for 4 years, and will likely cash a bigger check due to the controversy.

  • Chris Tabor

    Why is it OK for people to make judgments about people judging people, saying “The bible says its wrong to judge others,” but its not OK for Phil to say he thinks the bible teaches that its wrong for a man to put his private parts in another man’s rectum?

    • http://www.bergmannity.com/ William Bergmann

      It is fine for me but not for thee.

  • MJ Blair

    I’m so tired of seeing post after post about this duck dude. A couple of things I think we all should keep in mind: we live in the USA where freedom of speech is guaranteed for all people. As a member of the group this guy is condemning, I find his statements appalling and bigoted, but can not deny him the freedom to speak such. However, every action brings a consequence, be it positive or negative. If one chooses to spout off at the mouth, one must be willing to reap what was sown. He exercised his first amendment right. The network exercised the right to discontinue the show.

    Why can’t we follow the advice of our parents when the told us “if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything”?

    And for the “Christians” out there cheering this guy on… My Bible has Jesus quoted as saying “he that hates his brother in his heart is guilty of murder”. I’m pretty sure it was talking about brothers and sisters in Christ, not the natural family.

    Each one of us will stand before God someday and give an account of our thoughts, speech and actions. I don’t know about anyone else, but I want to hear “well done good and faithful servant”, not “depart from me”. Just food for thought.

  • julie

    The author never mentions the “truth” about homosexuality and homosexual sex. What is the truth? Seems obvious that you use things in ways they are not intended to be used. Talk to anyone in emergency services field (police, firemen, doctors, etc.) and they sure don’t see the results of loving, caring monogamous relationships.

  • Ecep

    Wow he sould be on tv, he’s ignorant. It’s amazing how the progressives claim everyone must be tolerant except when it’s a subject they don’t like, then it’s watch out here they come.

  • Gregory Petersen

    Okay, when it comes to the argument that homosexuals are born homosexuals, I concede. Homosexuality is a sin and we are all born sinners so in that light, yes they are born that way however it is also a choice just as a person would make a moral decision not to steal, some have made the choice not to sodomize.

  • CosmicThought

    I don’t think that Phil was saying that Homosexuals will start having sex with animals and promiscuous sex. I think he was saying that human always push the borders. Once we start a level of acceptance, someone will push it to another level. Fine, 2 humans loving each other is acceptable to have sex with and marry each other. We have documented accounts of people marrying inanimate objects. What’s to say that someone decideds to argue the case that they love their dog and their dog loves them, that they should be able to marry. I know that sounds ridiculous, but at one time so did homosexuality. I’m not siding with Phil or against him. I’m not for or against homosexuality. I’m just saying that our world is pretty screwed up and someone is always trying to get away with something else. At what point do we draw the line?

    • so sue me

      “What’s to say that someone decideds to argue the case that they love
      their dog and their dog loves them, that they should be able to marry.”

      Because there is something called agency, and you have to have it to enter into a legally binding contract. You cannot enter into a contract with a dog, or a toaster, or a minor, or even someone who is mentally handicapped because they do not have agency. Marriage, in the eyes of the law, is a contract. As with any legal contract, consenting, fully developed, adult human beings should be able to enter into it.

  • jamie lee

    You know nothing about the christian religion. There is a reason for some things are in the old testament and others are in the new. Before you start criticizing someone on their lack of knowledge on a subject you should first do some studying of your own. Why is it that everyone just has to try to tear apart the christian faith, who cares what they believe. And the fact that you are judging the robertson family for what they do goes against your stand of them judging others.

  • consume

    I say we leave each other alone. We all hate each other and love each other and kill each other and heal each other. Humans are a lost cause. Religion was meant as a guide and was made by people with flaws but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t have some kind of laws. Keep yourself happy and be good to others. We don’t live on this earth for long. Stop killing your brother.

  • Majorbuttercup

    Not only did he make less than informed statements about sexuality, he also made very ignorant comments about Black Americans living under Jim Crow. I don’t blame A&E for distancing themselves.

  • MommaK2000

    Do people realize, gay, straight, sideways, whatever, Mr. Robertson was just commenting on his believes. You are right about what he learned, to live by God’s word that is written in the bible. It doesn’t mean he’s homophobic, he just doesn’t believe in that way of life. Just like many don’t believe in the way the Robertson’s live their lives. If you don’t like them don’t watch them. It is your freedom to do that. But the reasons the show is such a success is because of the Christian believes that are on the show. Get over yourselves.

  • SS

    Wow, thank you for this. I’ve been trying to say this to so many people, but for some reason they think it’s different for him than us because he is on TV. I truly don’t understand this logic. I would be fired for anti-homosexual slurs, and also for anti-Christian slurs. This guy was representing A&E, I’m sure he signed a contract that covered conduct, so he should have known exactly what he was getting into when he spoke. I would also like to point out that Alec Baldwin was not defended this way when his show was cancelled recently, which blatantly shows that these Christian groups who are speaking out are only defending their own beliefs, not all free speech. Interesting, considering that this is what they accuse their critics of. The thine is, people are all the same, they just choose different sides to fight for.

  • Johnny Leverett

    I think whoever wrote this article is the ignorant one.

  • dave

    The real fact, is how so many people can be ignorant of the Word of God. I’m not a guy who says things a lot, but people who wrote this are just ignorant an d have not read the Word. read the contest, its not talking about the person, its about the sin, he didn’t say “I hate homosexuals” did he? He said homosexual behavior. A good thing to remember is “love the sinner, hate the sin.” Im just as condemned as any other person in the world and i know it. But the big part is i realize it and have accepted the FREE gift of God. I have still sinned and will continue just as bad as the worst murderer, the molester, the adulterer, the drunkard. Its human nature, were all sinful, but we have Christ to save us from the doom of sin which leads to hell. So please don’t be ignorant of the Word of God. By the way, the Levitical law is an Old testament covenant. Since Christ died for our sins the new covenant is established and we no longer have to worry about that.

    Thanks for reading!

  • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

    How ironic that all the Libtards are supporting A&E’s decision as a private business…that’s funny, you could have fooled me…those multi billion dollar private corporations are what Liberals often hate and whine about the most. Typical hypocrisy and “tolerance” from the left…that is of course so long as it agrees with their delusional viewpoint!

    • Damien Roberts

      Actually freedom of speech and press is something constantly floundered by the right. The Dixie Chicks were basically demolished for speaking out against George W. Bush, Rolling Stone was boycotted for a cover story, but when someone condemns a subsection of society its “freedom of speech” and everyone just needs to get over it.

  • John

    What I think is absurd is that when anyone has an opinion that is contradictory to your opinion you get upset. Phil has an opinion and he is able to say what he thinks it is the same as all of yall saying that you are for the gays. Also all of y’all speak in generalities and extremes. Clearly all you extremists just are ultra-sensitive and freak out if someone says something that you don’t agree with.

  • Matt Totusek

    Are you all blinded to see that a man and a man cannot make babies. Are you all to ignorant to know how life and nature works. There’s always repentance and forgiveness that’s all that really matters at the end of the day. Just don’t turn your head when you see something wrong and classify it as a righteous act. Now There’s thousands of people who are going against the bible The bible doesn’t condemn them in anyway as long as you seek repentance and try to live the righteous way. When god knocks on your door of life, Don’t slam the door in his face. We should Not discriminate against anyone for we are not to judge anyone or anything, and all we can hope for is people repent and change there hearts that’s all. So therefore do not be mean to your brothers or sisters, for there sins are many, what ever the sins may be, Just live righteously and In the light. we all ask for forgiveness sooner or later if not Enjoy your Babylon for your days are Numbered .

    • Damien Roberts

      Very judgmental first half of your paragraph to end with telling people not to judge.

  • D.

    In theory, everyone that comments or writes an article on this specific topic is conducting the same behavior, aside from the fact.. that all of you were not being asked in an interview…. see the logic?

    So… this is the reality. Next in life please.

  • Joy-Noel Langley-Rhubart

    Every one is just mad because he can say what he truely feels, get over it, im so sick and tried of all this glr sh*t and yes i do have gay family and friends

    • Damien Roberts

      He CAN say whatever he wants, but he CAN’T say them without consequences. Life doesn’t work that way.

  • justsayin

    Why is no one focusing on what he said about slavery? Probably because it’s easier to defend opinions on homosexuality than to try and defend him saying slaves and African-Americans were happy before the civil-rights movement. Which is what he also said.

  • Bubba

    Gays can’t accept others opinions of them, they have many double standards.

    • Damien Roberts

      Robertson gave his opinion on gays, gays gave their opinion on him, and now all of his fans are calling bullshit. Who can’t accept others opinions?

  • Dan M

    Way to paraphrase an article paraphrasing another article. You might want to go read the original before quoting it Mr. Clifton. He didn’t compare homosexuality to bestiality. He was talking about sin and the state of America. If you read and believe the bible, believe homosexuality is a sin, then accept it because it’s mainstream and ‘sin becomes fine’ it just opens everything else up to being fine, like bestiality, adulterers, idolaters, drunkards etc that the bible says are sins. He was talking about how the show was their platform to kinda offset what they felt was wrong with today’s programming… and part of his penance for stuff he did in his youth.

    Hate on him if you want, but at least take the time to read the original and not someone else’s excerpts.

  • Shorty

    Whether people agree or disagree with the statements made by Phil or anyone on here what is said on a forum really isn’t going to make much of a difference in how he or anyone lives their lives and or what they chose to believe in. Everyone has their opinions on many issues I just wish that if society is going to make an example of Phil they need to also make examples of every celebrity, politician, athlete, etc that makes statements or does something in which society doesn’t agree with …If you don’t want to watch Duck Dynasty as a result of this situation then don’t nobody is forcing you to.

  • Dustin Gray

    For one the author is ignorant because it isn’t being homophobic or ignorant it’s his Fucking belief you dipshit. It is an offense against free speech and free religion. I am by no means anti gay. In fact I support it because I am open minded and I’m not religious. But I’m using the right I have to not have to pick a religion and my free speech in calling the author ignorant.

    Also a&e was stupid to sign a Christian family and expect them to act and believe differently.

    • Damien Roberts

      Did you read the article above? The author very eloquently pointed out that anything happening is NOT violating his freedom of speech or religion.

  • Anonymous

    You left out the part where he said he still loves everyone. And that’s the point of Christianity. LOVE. He was stating his opinion. So what? Whether you agree or disagree that doesn’t mean he should be kicked off of his own television show. People need to grow up and stop over reacting.

  • Elliotb

    FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Leave the old man alone. Homosexuality is far from natural, if it were natural by the very context of the word ‘natural’ then homosexuals would not have sperm to fertilize an egg. The only thing natural about sex is reproduction. All other arguments are a waste of time and illogical. If people want to be unnatural in their sexual preference then ok, let them and let’s move on!!!!!!!!!!

    • Damien Roberts

      Thank you for your definition of sex and the over abundance of exclamation points…glad thats all cleared up.

  • Ruth

    Shame on the reporter for GQ Magazine for even asking this type of controversial question. They wanted to stir the pot and they did! Phil spoke honestly and then the stupid A&E people reacted without thinking of the uproar it was gonna cause. I hope DD lasts for a long, long time on another channel. A&E does not deserve the highest ranked show on TV.

  • Tripmom92

    It’s very clear in the Bible… very simple … Leviticus 18:22…. homosexuality is an abomination. Does that mean we should be hateful or disrespectful to them , no…

    • http://www.redheadedfemme.com/ BB-Mystic

      For those who don’t believe in the Bible, that doesn’t mean shit.

      Also, referring to a fellow human being as an “abomination” IS hateful and disrespectful.

  • jonathan s

    How does leviticus have anything to do with the robertsons? Leviticus and most of the old testament specifically deal with jewish law so as gentile it does not apply to them.they fall under new testament law. As far as tattoos there is no spefic verse that deals with them other than a verse in the old testament that tells the jews not to cut themselves in the method of pagans who would cut themselves as part of a ritual to bring back the dead. As far as what he said it is biblical teaching so its a take it or leave it proposition.

  • RealGetter

    Allen Clifton, if only you could be held accountable for calling millions of Americans “idiots”.

  • Bert27

    He didn’t seem to be saying only homosexuals are promiscuous I believe he was listing off certain activities that he considers sinful. He certainly wasn’t saying only homosexuals commit bestiality or are promiscuous, he in fact admits he was promiscuous in his younger days and perhaps this is where his lack of understanding comes from “I stopped sleeping with a different woman every night, so gays should be able to stop sleeping with men”. Just as you’re unable to fathom that he thinks homosexuality is a choice, as promiscuity is, he can’t fathom that it isn’t. People need to get better at understanding how others think. As for your main point I agree that A&E has every right to suspend or fire him, and advertisers have every right not to advertise with him, relatively few people disagree, what “protect free speech buffoons” are getting at is that while they have the right to dismiss him they shouldn’t. I disagree with his statements but I don’t think anyone should be penalized for their speech, it goes against the spirit of the 1st amendment. If his actions were hurting people that would be one thing but to penalize him because of disagreement is ridiculous. I have neighbors who I disagree with but I won’t boycott their business just because they have a different opinion than mine.

  • Shelly

    Who cares if he doesn’t like gays…. He’s a great character on the show, everyone knew he felt that way before he came out and said it. I love gays and I’m not offended by it.. If you don’t like his beliefs don’t watch the show… Clearly everyone is just WAY too sensitive in the world these days… It is getting ridiculous, can’t say anything without hurting someones feelings.. Like I said, if you don’t like what he is saying, don’t watch the show, honestly the show wasn’t designed for gay people to watch, it was designed with hunters, those who live in the country, like me, and with people who wonder what it is like in mind. And that is what it is really like, tons of people dislike the idea of being gay, who cares? Why does it matter? Grow up everyone, toughen up a little, and get over yourselves.

  • Jimmy Stewart

    Allen Clifton, you throw the word ignorant around like it doesn’t apply to you.
    You fool yourself easily.

  • smilin BoB

    He basically said he didn’t understand it. He has also admitted his shortcomings which he didn’t seem proud of. He said it wasn’t his to judge but many people believe it is theirs to judge. It’s not like he’s 80 years old and standing out in front of planned parenthood telling young women to have babies they cant take care of and the state has no money to help because we want to spend it on our war machine.

  • Non-Supporter

    Next time you feel the need to write an article like this, DON’T. I’m going to be honest, I quit reading three paragraphs in because I began to feel the stupidity come over me. I agree it’s not a violation of freedom of speech, but the other nonsense in this article is not factual and pure opinion.

  • Adam

    First, I am a Christian conservative and I am happy this is all happening. I am glad this happened to Phil Robertson not because I think what he said was wrong but because all this type of behavior is predicted in the Bible. People in the name of tolerance are intolerant of Christians who share their views when asked. I pray all you who don’t know Christ as your savior keep up trying to shut up Christians. Then maybe Christianity in general in the states will wake up. That we would realize our purpose here on earth isn’t to win debates but is to pray and be a witness to as many people as possible so that all you who deny Christ can one day spend eternity with God! God bless you all! I am praying for you.

  • theguy

    CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF MEDIA GRANDSTANDING , Who the Duck cares

  • Damien Roberts

    This is going to be long and oddly, I’ll have some nice things to say about both sides. First in support of Robertson;

    While I don’t agree with Robertson’s views they are entirely his to own and thats fine with me. I can’t fault him for his belief in Christianity or his belief that homosexuality is a sin, he was taught a lot of that and like many of us it became part of his belief system. Thats fine too. I also believe that the guy may not be the smartest person in the world (which sounds insulting I know), but he probably regrets a lot of how he said things, not necessarily what he said. I think A&E would be smart to put all this stuff to rest seeing as the show is a huge hit and the fans of the show have really seemed to come and support him and the rest of the family.

    All that said I am a gay man so I obviously take issue with what he’s saying. First and foremost, I have many people in my lives that follow the Christian faith and MOST of them are very tolerant people and have never/would never say anything homophobic to me. I would consider them my idea of what Christians “act” like. That said a lot of that relationship relies on them keeping their opinion to themselves and me simply knowing that they may not agree with my lifestyle. This IS something every GLBT person needs to get used to because for now its not changing. That said, for those who think that making public comments about homosexuality being a sin and abnormal is as simple as you stating your opinion do a little research into what you may be setting off.

    First research homosexuality just as a form. You’ll find that it exists in many different species of animals and has existed for quite awhile. You’ll also find that while there is no proof, and probably never will be, that people are “born gay” there is sufficient evidence that trying to “change” your sexual orientation is extremely unhealthy.

    And lastly, research GLBT suicide and you might just rethink condemning them. I can actually kind of get that Christian’s aren’t trying to hurt anyone, but when you look at the numbers it is staggering and it largely can be drawn from societies views on sexuality. If Christianity were truly about love then they’d be willing to keep their opinions to themselves and simply let people live.

    • http://www.redheadedfemme.com/ BB-Mystic

      If Christianity were truly about love then they’d be willing to keep their opinions to themselves and simply let people live.

      A-frakking-Men, brother.

      That’s called being responsible. If you know that your words will hurt people, then I think it would behoove you to, you know, keep your mouth shut.

      As a person of faith myself, I would no more have said what he said, especially in an interview for a national fucking magazine, than I would fly. Anyone who follows the news (and as a savvy multimillionaire businessperson, I would think he falls into that category) would know that our culture has changed. Just as you rightfully can’t say “nigger” and “wetback” anymore and be accepted by society, you can’t link homosexuality and bestiality (not to mention his ignorant comments about black people) and not expect massive blowback. Especially if you’re a public figure. I know some people, including the Robertsons, probably don’t like that, but it’s the way things are. They need to get used to it. How fucking hard is it to simply be considerate of other people, and not say things you know, or suspect, might hurt them?

      Bottom line, he brought all this on himself, and it didn’t have to happen. When asked the question, all he had to say was, “I’m not commenting on that. Next question.”

  • Joe SCHMOE

    its…its almost as if people are surprised to learn that the Bible says homosexuallity is a sin, and that he believes in that. You know what else is in there that he also has said believes in….loving the gays. hmmm its like people didnt want to hear that part.

  • Kevin Allen

    allen clifton, you and gladd couldn’t wait to get out in front of this and try and bring a Christian man down by just quoting the bible,, Stop being so insecure in your homo-sexuallity or whatever insecurity you have, Phil has his beliefs, you have yours, why try and blacken and good mans name just because you don’t see eye to eye. Or penis to penis. Get over it and stop crying. Im so sick of the Liberals and the left trying to rewrite the rules of the Bible, life, and common sense. Stop your belly aching and thank “GOD” you live in a country where you can be and do as you please. Without assholes like yourself taking to the media and turning a molehill into a mountain!Shut up and live and let live!!!!

  • Kevin Allen

    fuck you brian, go eat shit

  • Brandon AKA WILD-MAN

    How did all that Liberal whining and moaning work out for you guys? LMAO!!! I hear Obamacare covers butthurt, maybe some of you can go sign up if you haven’t been able to already! Be prepared for that “Sticker Shock” when you go looking for your “lower premiums” and “$2500 savings!”

  • maias

    Is Mr. Robertson being thrown in jail or prosecuted for his remarks? Of course not. They’re his own personal views — which he has every right to believe, no matter how ignorant they might be…..
    But it seems others are NOT allowed to express their views on Mr Robertson’s views – which they also have every right to believe…..

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