Meet The Employee-Centered Company That Could Eventually Take Down Wal-Mart

wincoPrices as good or better than Wal-Mart? Healthcare coverage with dental and vision as low as $40 a month for employees? It’s not some stereotypical crunchy granola liberal health food co-op store in Brooklyn or San Francisco, it’s a company that has expanded across the Western United States (including Arizona and two new stores just opened in Texas) and it could be going nationwide before long.

WinCo Foods, Boise, Idaho, is scheduled to open its first two Texas stores on Thursday, with at least three more Texas locations due over the next 13 months, the company said.
The first two stores will be in Fort Worth and McKinney, Texas, on opposite sides of the Dallas-Fort Worth metroplex, with each covering approximately 95,000 square feet, said Mike Read, the company’s spokesman.
Three additional stores are likely to open in Texas during the company’s fiscal year, which begins April 1, Read said — in Duncanville, North Richland Hills and Lewisville. (Source)

Yes, you heard that right. Red states Texas and Arizona now have an employee owned and operated *gasp* “socialist” company which can provide groceries at the same or cheaper prices than Wal-Mart. This isn’t some flash in the pan, fly by night corporation either. WinCo was originally established in 1967 and became employee owned in 1985. They’re privately owned by the employees, and they brag about it on their website:

For over 40 years WinCo Foods has fostered a tradition of success by focusing on very large stores with a wide selection of national brands at prices below our competition. In addition, the very nature of having employee stockholders that have seen their Employee Stock Ownership Plan (Pension Plan) grow at a 21.51% annual compound growth rate creates an extremely dedicated workforce. This has made WinCo a very successful company, one which in 1998 was listed as #266th on Forbes Magazine’s List of 500 largest Privately Held Companies and recently in 2011 holding to the 66th spot on the list.

WinCo is continuing this record of success, now operating 93 Employee Owned Stores in seven states (Washington, Idaho, California, Nevada, Oregon, Utah, Arizona and Texas) with nearly 15,000 employees and continues to grow by opening new stores and adding new members to the company every year. (Source)

How good are these pension plans? This good:

The company also has a pension, with employees getting an amount equal to 20% of their annual salary put in a plan that’s paid for by WinCo; a company spokesperson told the Idaho Statesman that more than 400 nonexecutive workers (cashiers, produce clerks and such) currently have pensions worth over $1 million apiece. (Source)

Ok, 93 locations in 7 states isn’t even close to being in the same league as Wal-Mart currently finds itself sitting in all alone, but it shows that you CAN take care of your employees AND still be a profitable company. Because they’re not a publicly traded entity, they don’t have stockholders demanding ever larger returns on dividends every quarter at the the expense of both the consumer and the employees. The employees are the stockholders and the better the company does, the better they do. Crazy concept isn’t it? Oh yeah, and they’re also eco-friendly – and they’re expanding.

I’ve hated Wal-Mart ever since they put many of the stores out of business in the town that I grew up in nearly two decades ago, and I don’t find Target that much more palatable either. If WinCo can thrive and expand in Texas, I fully expect that they will be able to do so across the rest of the United States and finally give Wal-Mart the competition they so desperately need. It’s about time.

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  • suzifeld

    That would be fantastic! I wish they would come to Savannah!

  • Penny

    Come to Columbus OH!

  • PDK

    Love shopping at my neighborhood Winco for the last 20 yrs. Rarely shop anywhere else. Better prices, better service, better people than Wal-Mart.

  • Sandy Hufnagel

    Come to Tennessee!!

    • Lyssa

      I was thinking the same thing. Publix is also employee owned, but not a threat to Walmart.

  • Deb

    Please come to VT and NH

  • Greg Brown

    Only Winco and Costco for me in the last two decades.

    • Pipercat

      One down, one to go here in San Antonio!!

      • Michael L. Hoenig

        One *what* down?

        One *what* to go?

        WalMart? CostCo? WinCo?

      • Pipercat

        Walmart, pish….. everywhere. I can even remember the last time and reason I bought anything there. Costo, you bet Rx and Naan bread!! Now all we need is the WinCo!!! This town is dominated by one grocery company.

      • Be Handy

        I rarely enter an HEB in S.A. There is Whole Foods, Sprouts, Costco, and Target.

      • Dennis Carr

        Having not read anything till now, I have a question. Wal-Mart will not build unless a HUGE tax incentive is given, like FREE land.. Was Winco a better company in regards to this?? Just Saying.. No matter how big an elephant gets, it still listens to humans.. Will Winco be able to stay the line..

      • Pipercat

        I have no idea. Places like San Antonio, I would assume, are a bit more problematic for a WinCo. One grocery chain has complete dominance and is headquartered here. Their name is everywhere beyond their stores, for example. However, the city itself is zoned; a rarity in Texas. If it’s zoned for a retail, there really are no restrictions. The last Walmart built near me was in a suburb who demanded certain concessions from Walmart. They acquiesced. As you can see, these local issues are well, an issue unto themselves.

      • Katie

        All hail HEB!!

      • liz

        even if they aren’t wanted in that town but eventually win and build anyways? i’m in fl. and 2 finally went up after many debates.

      • pnllsprkf

        where in Florida are they

      • liz

        the 2 that i’m talking about, one is in Sarasota now and the other in Osprey, FL. same county.

      • Thunder Mountain Arts

        free land? like they arent billionaires over and over? what greed

      • Dave

        They didn’t get free land in NW WI and built? Help me understand the basis for this statement of yours?

      • David Gray

        Dennis Carr, please provide examples of Walmart being provided FREE land. I’m not suggesting this didn’t occur, but I cannot find any evidence. Also, many large businesses enjoy HUGE tax incentives from municipalities which desperately want the jobs and tax revenue such a business generates over time. Again, this is nothing unusual, though you seem to believe it is. WINCO was provided tax incentives by the city of North Las Vegas for locating there. YOU are provided tax incentives for saving money, buying real estate, and contributing to charity, among other things… tax incentives are not news.

      • Michelle Carter-Bell

        Requested and given in WDC. They are in a wage war with the District government. Target will take the space and agree to pay their employees a livable wage. I hope Walmart gets shut out. After the owner died. Every one was screwed.

      • MrSkippy

        It wasn’t free land here but they did demand concessions including tax breaks (5 years, no property taxes), they demanded the city pay for all of the road infrastructure necessary to support them.

        Free land is rare. That means that either the city/state has to already own the land or has to buy it and give it away.

      • TSR

        Here is a little personal perspective on the free land bid. I grew up in a very small town in Kansas where Walmart had wanted to build their distribution center but the town refused to give them breaks on the land, so they moved a half hour north of us o a bigger town. A few years after they opened in that town the only factory in our little town had a fire and shut down. Now my little town is suffering to find jobs and slowly losing citizens to the bigger town where the jobs are. I’m not saying it’s right, but if the tax incentive had been given there might still be hope for the people that lived there. It’s not completely unfair if the debt would be paid trough decent wages and healthcare benefits. In that regard this new place would be a better place than Walmart to work.

      • roooth

        What good would the Walmart have done your town if they were the town’s main employer but paid so little that the employees need financial support from the town just to survive?
        Once that factory burned down and Walmart was the town’s default employer, what good would that have done the town? Walmart takes all the profit away from the town, so where would the revenue come from to support the underpaid employees? The Federal gov?

      • Ken Hillman

        Roooth, you hit the nail right on the head. The “be happy for what you have…no matter how bad” is how Walmart has grown…and our fear fuels it. When you pay so poorly you help your employees fill out government aid forms and actually plan a FOOD DRIVE for your employees (it was cancelled after the poor press they got) people eventually start to realize they are paying for their low prices in multiple ways…

      • william wilson

        You got employees with million dollar pension funds.That company will grow bigger being employ owned.Think about it

      • 2Smart2bGOP

        Been in business forty years, and employee-owned since 1985; think about THAT. This isn’t some new, fly-by-night operation. I’ve been shopping Winco for years, love it, it’s awesome.

      • Evelyn Johnson

        Where did you get that number ??

      • soul68

        Even if they demanded free land and a tax break would that be so bad? Those would be offset by local residents having higher wages, and thus a higher local tax base, as well as a higher standard of living.

        Crazy concept! Not really, makes a lot of sense to me and companies like this and Costco are exposing the Walmarts of the world for what they really are.

      • DublinIreland

        Costco was co- founded by a big democrat supporter. Costco isn’t any cheaper than any other store unless you buy stuff a crate at a time.

      • Guest

        Costco has good prices and you know the old saying if you don’t use it you can really tell. I have used it for years and even though as you say a DEMOCRAT supporter created it, IT WORKS. Prices are lower then other places and I can normally find what I want. If they don’t have it I stop and pick up the other things at mom and pop stores.. Costco treats its employees great, as most of them get a pay of around $22.00 a hour with a full benefit package.. even part time help after six months gets a benefit package… I will shop where people are treated with respect and not in some place that won’t pay well and give people hours with benefits.. This is the land of the people not the land of the corporation.. So you buy your, as you call it, STUFF where ever you want but next time maybe you will think of the people who hold down those jobs.. think of the corporations that are destroying our country today who will not pay well and will not give benefits and tell them to go to welfare…

      • Brenda Galbraith

        $22.00 an hour. Where are you located? Never heard of a store paying that much per hour.

      • Chick

        Time to put your application in, then! That is what Costco pays and they are very good to their employees. Both facts are pretty well known.

      • powderpuff

        $22.00 is not even close to a starting pay there tho.. you have to build up to it.. if you got your info from the article I am thinking you did, the guy had worked there for over 10yrs…

      • Bill_Fan

        FP.com is always going to slant their stories against Walmart.
        And notice that, in the 4th paragraph, the (ahem) author of this piece laments about Walmart causing smaller stores to shut down, but not nentioning Winco has the same affect.

      • Jebus Jones

        It’s the norm here in in Virginia. My daughter has worked there the entire time she’s been in college and although we carry her on our insurance could have had full coverage through Costco.

      • Cindy OShea

        Wow! $22hr?! Are they generou$, or is it that expensive to live in Dublin? :)

      • dawn

        No Cindy, I live in Pa. That’s what Costco pays here as well.

      • Vnessa Wright

        Generous? Is that what you call $22hr? What do you think they should make $5 $6hr? Costco Employees have a vested interest in their company whose stock, by the way has doubled in value the last 10 years. This is true profit sharing and more companies should take notice. Instead of adopting Costco’s philosophy companies like Walmart and Republicans in Congress insists “that’s not how the free market works.” What they’re really saying is they want to keep Corporate America happy and that means no raise to the minimum wage.

      • justsayin

        Costco in MO pays $11.00 an hour. HMMM.

      • Lorelei

        Another reasonable way to look at shopping at a Costco vs a Walmart as I have no WinCo experience (but boy do I want it!) is looking at how a company treats its employees. Costco is notorious for treating its employees well. WalMart is notorious for treating its employees not so well. I’d rather throw my money at a company that works in the best interest of the folks who show up for work every day. Costco it is for me.

      • Progressive Republican

        WinCos are great. Not the spiffiest, but clean, well-lit, great prices, and I’ve never been to another store who can even match their bulk section.

      • Shelley David

        Every time we go into Utah to stock up on groceries, etc I have to go to Winco, they have an amazing selection of items you can buy in bulk. They will also let you pre-order bulk items and pick them up the day of delivery at the store. These items being rice, beans, baking spices, flour, wheat, all kinds of grains, dry cereal, etc. Oh and lots of bulk candy, nuts, dry fruit and granola. You also have a very large produce section to choose from.
        So as far as I’m concerned it’s Winco for me!!!

      • Progressive Republican

        With Albertson’s and Safeway merging they’ve been forced into a massive divestiture which a small northwest chain is taking advantage of.

        How it this germane? The article had this chart:

        Sorta sez it all…

      • Bill_Fan

        If that’s true, how does Walmart have employees?

      • http://www.downing4change.com Gary Downing

        Costco has good prices and you know the old saying if you don’t use it
        you can’t really tell.

        I have used it for years and even though as you say
        a DEMOCRAT supporter created it, IT WORKS. As the CEO of the company he takes very little for pay compared to any other company of the same size or bigger.

        And what does it matter who created it as long as its helping the people of this Nation ?

        Your Republicans are not helping to create jobs.

        They are not helping people get health care that will not even cost the state a dime. They are blocking anything good for working Americans.

        People today need to find out what has gone on over the last 40 year in politics. We have seen laws changed to protect corporations and judges removed and replaced by Republicans to remove workers, and land owners rights.

        And you have something to say about a Democrat, who just happens to be an individual person, who created a business that is good for working people as if its a dirty word?

        Why are you not yelling at the top of your lungs about Walmart? Oh those happen to be Republicans. But you see all Tax Payers in this Nation end up with an additional 6 BILLION DOLLARS OF DEBT, since they won’t pay the people good wages and will not give them benefits..?
        Those people still need help..so they use Welfare.

        If you want to get the people off of Welfare pay them good wages.

        Costo has prices that are lower then other
        places and I can normally find what I want. If they don’t have it I stop
        and pick up the other things at mom and pop store..

        Costco treats its
        employees great, as most of them get a pay of around $22.00 a hour with a
        full benefit package.. even part time help after six months gets a
        benefit package… I will shop where people are treated with respect and
        not in some place that won’t pay well and give people hours with
        benefits.. This is the land of the people not the land of the

        So you buy your, STUFF, where ever you want
        but next time maybe you will think of the people who hold down those
        jobs.. think of the corporations that are destroying our country today
        who will not pay well and will not give benefits and tell them to go to

      • Vnessa Wright

        Costco pays their employees real wages u could raise a family on and benefits to boot. …..starting pay is way above min wage and you have the ability to advance. Unlike Walmart that pays min wage and has a program to assist its employees in applying for govt assistance So which would u prefer to have in your community?

      • AuntInAZ

        CostCo isn’t really the place to go if you only want a loaf of bread or a gallon of milk. That much is true.

        However, CostCo does have many good prices, but price isn’t really the only issue here. It’s how the company treats employees, how they treat suppliers and so forth. WalMart, for example, isn’t exactly beloved with many suppliers because of how they are treated by them. However, because of WalMart’s size and power, they have to deal with them or their brand and business will be damaged.

      • Patricia Finley-Jones

        Might be partially true… but I would rather shop at Costco because they are paying their workers well and also giving them benefits. They are quite equally priced in regards to WalMart.

      • Debbie Welch

        So what if Costco was founded by a Democrat? Wal-Mart was founded by a Republican and look at the difference in the way these two stores treat their employees and customers. Maybe because both CostCo and Winco are employee owned? I could stop right here but wth. Yes Wal-Mart demands concessions many times from small communities where they want to build and they normally get them. The Chamber of Commerce has their heads so far up the Walton’s ass it would take a John Deer Tractor and a team of Proctologist to get it out. The result of Wal-Mart moving in to my town was the near destruction of Ma & Pa businesses that used to line Main St. They couldn’t compete with Wal-Marts prices on cheap Chinese made crap. There were 3 Family owned Grocery Stores in town when Wal-Mart moved in, now there are 2 and the 2 Corporate owned stores have gone under. The good news is that one of the Family owned stores has actually expanded in the last 6 Months as people here are so sick of Wal-Mart. they’d rather pay slightly higher prices than to go to Wal-Mart to shop.
        If there were a CostCo or WinCo here, Wal-Mart and Sams would never see another dime of mine. I long ago switched Pharmacies and now support a small privately owned Pharma. The prices are pretty much the same and the Pharmacist treats me like a person and not a #.
        Since when did monopolies become the norm in the country of the free market and capitalism? It’s competition that drives the market. Wal-Mart might not be technically a monopoly but their not far from it and the last thing is that Wal-Mart Corp cost tax payer Millions a Yr paying for safety Net programs that their employees are forced to use to make ends meet.
        Wal-Mart sux in every way a company can suck and the only thing I buy there now is dog food as they are the only ones that can get the large bags of the food I prefer to feed on their shelves, my dogs actually start growling when I pull into that parking lot unlike when I pull into one of the other grocery store chains. They smell evil much better than we humans ever could.

      • Evelyn Johnson

        There is no such thing as “free” – the taxpayer is footing the bill when land is awarded to a company. And rising salaries would affect the poor the most as the costs would be added on to the price of products.

      • Stephen Barlow

        GREAT question!!!

        THAT is the crux of what American Capitalism has become. SPecial exceptions without reciprocity.

        Wikigoodle Fairchild industries to understand exactly how the game CHEATS those who GIVE a break to CORPS’.

      • epman71

        Free land is bogus. I work for a real estate company that owns 2 pieces of land that Wal-Mart is PURCHASING.

      • http://www.downing4change.com Gary Downing

        We have had Winco here in the Tri-Cities of South Eastern Washington state now since around the 80’s and I shop there myself. Customers seem happy with prices as I do and the workers are always helpful. I hope it will continue to grow because we have two of them here and they pay everyone well and it seems they do have good benefits..

      • nikki

        I applied to win Co and they offered me 8.00 dollars an hour in Lakewood California as a cashier….great pay were? What a joke hahaha…Walmart of whom I have worked for 7 years started me at $9.75 as a cashier I have full benefits and for 6 in my family with the best kaiser insurance I pay $74 and that’s for 6 people so before any of you people down talk walmart please get your facts right cause you know nothing…WIN CO WILL NEVER TAKE WALMART DOWN…GOOD LUCK

      • Chick

        Costco is a much better company to work for. You can do better, much better as a matter of fact.

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      • Patricia Finley-Jones

        Nikki, you seem to be lucky to be paid more than most Wal Marts actually pay. Most only get part time work and less benefits than what you have. I kind of feel like you are working for the Big Wal Mart in the Sky! What Wal Mart do you work in … city and state please. Also, are you still a cashier or department manager or manager of the store?

      • Sid Pevear

        What are you making after 7 years? Has Wal-Mart given you yearly raises? Do you work a full 40 or more a week. If you got regular raises of .50 per hour you would be making around $13.25. Over a year before taxes thats around $27560 a year. You support 6 people on that after taxes? You do know that for a family that size those are poverty wages. I know a long term Winco employee and they make a lot more than that at ten years along with the health benefits and retirement it really shoots way up over what you may be making. So I am just going to call BS on your claims. I may be wrong but I don’t think Wal-Mart gives a rats behind if you have anything to retire on. Just saying’ Good luck with that career.

        Or maybe you are just a corporate shill.

      • powderpuff

        Sid, you didn’t figure in the quarterly and year end bonuses on top of that annual gross pay (if her store qualified). Also, raises of 30-50 cents annually are the norm(based on performance and attendance for the previous year). There is also automatically when hired in an option for stock and 401k deductions, which are company matched up to a certain amount per year..And yes, Sid I do know what I am talking about ..15 yrs with the company.. just fyi.. I started back then at $8.75/hr.. I’ll let you TRY to do the math.. Good luck with that…

      • LV

        Nikki you need to do your research about Wal Mart as I have, I too work for Wal Mart as a cashier started me at $7.00 and no benefits it has taken me two whole years of hard work just to get 401k. And one more thing Wal Mart do not hire employees for full time positions any longer just only part time and the hours per week are between 22 hours to 30 hours the most per week.

      • Evelyn Johnson

        Not hiring full time employees is a direct response to the requirements of the Affordable Care Act. Walmart and thousands of companies across America have cut hours because the costs associated with full time workers and full health care would break the bank.

      • Evelyn Johnson

        Nobody has to “take anybody down” but the Walmart critics need to understand that they are being manipulated by the huge union pr machine that quietly disseminates misinformation about Walmart. The union management (whose goal is not to help the union employee but rather to build control for union management individuals) uses it’s constituency and the public’s naivete to continually bash Walmart. Be critical readers folks and check sources before you accept the smear information regarding Walmart.

      • MrSkippy

        Around here (their home town) no, they do not demand handouts to put in new stores. They tend to either build them in developments that are being purpose built or they put them into buildings that have long stood empty and underutilized.

        But they don’t demand huge subsidies to do it.

    • LL11

      Lucky you. Winco nowhere close, closest Costco about 1 hour away.

    • AuntInAZ

      The WinCo I recently applied to is being built next door to a CostCo. That ought to be interesting!

    • http://www.walkofthefallen.com Labrys

      Likewise, Greg. Winco beats the military commissaries most of the time, too.

    • Sid Pevear

      Both are about 25 miles from here, and my wife and I go there about once a month. I have 3 grandchildren living with us. We drive a Honda Pilot and literally fill it up with groceries and household items. Lasts us the whole month except for bread and milk. There is a Wal-Mart here in town and I do my best not to go in there.

  • Oeno

    Calling BS on the Wal-Mart put the local business out thing. I hear that all the time and it just isn’t true. They just stock the same crap that other places have for less money and less help finding the same crap. Heck, I get more help at the local Acme store than I could find if I decided to drive to the Wal-Mart and get none.

    • Ellen H.

      I guess you have been in every town in this country and know it all then.

    • Angela Walker

      Wouldn’t it be nice is people like Oeno would say why they disagree with an author’s premise? “I call BS” because you don’t understand or are underinformed just makes you look kinda dim, Oeno.

    • jdkahler

      Walmart stayed out of many densely populated areas since they didn’t want the competition and to build up their “lowest price” reputation. Which had the effect of putting smaller stores out of business in the smaller communities where they started. As they grew, they became large enough to bring their reputation (though not necessarily a reality, hence “lowest price” is no longer used since it was often not true) – and capital – to larger cities, where they could attract mass audiences with their “lowest price” reputation and ignore smaller businesses, but get the other segment businesses to panic and do the kind of investment they neglected as long as they had decent market share. In larger urban areas, a small business and empty storefront is less apparent than in a small town, and it’s not necessarily as clear a connection. The good news is there are alternatives in more densely populated areas which can compete. It’s easier to drive past a Walmart when they’re not the only game in town.

  • CherMoe

    Would love to see them come to OHIO. PLEASE???!!!

  • Pat

    Come North to Wisconsin please! Woodman’s in Wisconsin is an employee owned company, and they have been thriving here for decades. This is exactly what every State needs. Spread the wealth by letting the employees have a piece of the pie! Simple strategy and it works well for ALL, not just a few!!!

    • spinelli34523

      Spreading opportunity…not wealth. The former is not a handout. Im for people getting opportunities to work and succeed.

      • Pat

        Who said anything about a handout??? These employee owned companies have employees that WORK VERY HARD and EVERYONE SUCCEEDS.

      • ShadowHawk

        It’s actually spreading BOTH opportunity and wealth, opportunity for employees to succeed thus making more wealth for the company and by default themselves. A pension plan that is a direct 20% (per employee) cut to the company profit, which in-turn makes those said employees comfortably wealthy. It’s a win-win system.

      • Sativa

        That’s probably why they call it “Win Co” 😉

      • jason

        Its called winco for ” winning company. Also has to do with the States they started in” Washington Idaho Nevada California and Oregon” …renamed just after they bought out waremart foods

      • Andrew Phillips

        WinCo didn’t buy out Waremart, it was Waremart. All it did was change the name. I’ve been with WinCo for 20+ years, trust me I know. And officially WinCo stands for “winning company”.

      • WingedWolfPsion

        Opportunity for WHAT?

    • Furritus

      I’m from MA but went to college in Wisconsin, I miss Woodman’s!

    • Dave

      Woodman’s rules! Those should go nationwide. When I lived in Kenosha I went there all the time,

      • Anotherfamily

        They finally built a new freeway ramp and extended 71st street under I 94 so that there is a direct pass through for Woodmans and all the businesses that now exist around it. This is great for us as my husband works just on other side of interstate off 71st, and getting over to woodmans used to be quite the hassle, now I’ve got him stopping there anytime we need anything…ultimates savings, since we live about 14 miles away, I don’t have to make extra trips!

    • Kcdc

      I grew up in Wi and love Woodmans. The employee owned companies are so much better not only in prices but in quality as well. And yes the employees work very hard. Around here in No all there is is Walmart and PriceCutters which are both way over priced due to the location. If we got a Winco here I would for sure shop there over the other two choices. Please build one here!!!!

    • Dennis Carr

      Just what I tried to tell John up there somewhere.. Plus Wisconsin has no sales tax on food, correct me if I am wrong.. Wait, I can do better…

      The only thing is, adding tax to support Sports Buildings seems stupid, if I don’t like football or baseball, why am I getting charged? You pay the players millions and the owners get billions.. Seems to me you are helping a pig eat his food.. they don’t need help..

      I live in Tax Hell, Illinois Illinois6.25%10% Wisconsin5%5.6%
      General Tax Total with Max Local Surtax

      “Wisconsin has a 5% state sales tax, with 62 of the 72 counties charging an extra 0.5% “County Tax”.

      The state instituted a 0.1% sales tax in five counties (Milwaukee, Ozaukee, Racine, Washington, Waukesha), effective January 1, 1996, to cover the cost of building Miller Park in Milwaukee. The tax was originally scheduled to be retired in 2014; however, it is now not expected to collect enough taxes to cover the entire cost until 2017. There had been talk of extending the tax to pay for a new arena for the Milwaukee Bucks, but the plan failed to gain any momentum.

      Brown County collects a 0.5% tax for all purchases which funded the remaining cost of a $295 million renovation of Lambeau Field, as well as a payment to the Green Bay Packers to cover part of the cost of operating and maintaining the stadium through the year 2031. The necessary funds are expected to all be collected by about 2015, when the tax is currently scheduled to end.

      The municipalities of Lake Delton, Wisconsin Dells, Bayfield, Stockholm (passed by legislature in 2013), and Eagle River have also been authorized to adopt an additional 1% sales tax, due to their status as popular tourist destinations.

      Milwaukee County also has an additional local exposition tax on hotel rooms, car rentals, and food and beverage, which funds the Wisconsin Center Tax District.

      In all cases, prescriptions, most foods (with the exception of candy, dietary supplements, soft drinks, and prepared foods), and newspapers, among other items, are exempt from sales tax; however, over-the-counter medications, and certain types of repair and installation services are not tax exempt.”

      • Heather James

        WI has no sales tax on groceries. I used to shop at Woodman’s in Appleton, back when they were only in Appleton and Madison. Now, we are in Montana, with no sales tax at all!

      • Saori

        Wisconsin has no sales tax on UNPREPARED FOOD. So if you get popcorn kernels you pay no tax, but if you buy anything from a burger to cut fruit you do. Which is the standard. Minnesota apparently doesn’t do this. I’ve had friends confused as heck as to why I’m shelling out almost a dollar more for a meal at DQ at college when just across the border that doesn’t happen. Gas is cheaper in Minnesota as well.

        I’ve never heard of Woodmans. The next time I’m in Appleton I’ll need to check it out!

      • Vivian Reiser

        Help ASAP we need a Woodman’s or Winco out here in Spring Hill, FL 34609 . Walmart is the only place to shop out here that has better prices than Publix and Winn Dixie.. Publix and Winn Dixie are outradious!

      • Kevin

        Just so you know, Publix is also employee-owned like Woodman’s and WinCo. My parents live in Florida and love shopping at Publix rather than Walmart.

      • Alan Gilfoy

        NY has no sale tax on unprepared food.
        VA has 2.5% on unprepared food as opposed to 5% for other things, at least when i was living in the DC suburbs summer 2011

    • Bob Muenchausen

      I’m sure there are equally as good retailers other than Winco out there. It is the IDEA behind a company like Winco (or Woodsman’s) that is important, not that they are all a monopoly or part of the same organization. The spread of the concepts behind a Winco or Costco or Woodsman’s is what is needed, not just simply a corporate brand.

      • william wilson

        I’m retired from phone company and i thought my pension plan was good but Wimco is amazing

    • 1EdMeadows83

      I hope the employee owned grocery stores will fare better than the employee owned airline. United has dropped from being the nation’s premier airline to just another corporate giant.

  • Reed Jorgensen

    If they have the same/better prices than Walmart – they will put even more of the ‘local businesses’ out of business.

    • Robert Haugh

      We have to accept that these types of corporate enterprise are here to stay. If, as a business owner, you are located in an area soon to be occupied by Wal Mart, or similar store, then the wisest step you could take would be to make sure you provide to your customers, that which they cannot get at these box stores, such as personalized service. Customers want to know there is someone available to answer their questions and assist them until completion of sale. Also carry some products not carried by the competition. It’s all about finding your niche. There are some areas you cannot compete with them, but other ways, other things you offer your customers cannot be provided by the big stores.

  • Haight

    Loyal Winco customer for over 20 years, and now that we have a new store that’s twice as big as the old one I will remain so. They have a long list of current WalMart employees waiting for an opening at both our local Winco and Costco. Recently went into Walmart only to find that the large superstore had only one working electric cart for the disabled waiting times were an hour to two hours. When I spoke to a manager he said if I didn’t like it I could take my money elsewhere, I thanked him for his suggestion and headed to Winco which has eight for a store half Walmarts size.


    Anything but Wal MArt!

  • Me food

    I work for Winco it really is a better company then Walmart I worked for then in the early 2000’s and they treated me like crap then in May 25th of 2004 I went to work for Winco and they have been amazing I can’t wait to hear what Texas thinks about us

  • Steve Omand

    How is employee ownership “socialist”?
    It is very much a capitalist notion. We had employee stock ownership plans in the company I worked for back in the 1980’s! Company was tops in its field and listed on the NYSE.

    • spinelli34523

      That was my thought too. Except for the very liberal chip on the author’s shoulder, it is a good article. Working for yourself is def NOT a socialist theme.

      • T’omm J’Onzz

        see reply to Steve Omand.

    • ron

      it is not employeed owned….. if you work at winco you can buy stock…. you have stock … you should have the right to vote in who you want as a board director.. or a board of directors..

      the workers have no right to vote in who they want…. just like walmart just like cmc…. 2 other private corporations that have employee owned stock that does not involve actual board of directors voting rights..

      • Angela Walker

        Wondering whose information is better: the author’s or ron’s? Is ron just trolling, a right wing nj who is upset that he has nothing to scream about (socialism, Benghazi)? Too bad ron didn’t offer a link or he might be found credible.

      • bcj

        Ron is not just trolling, and certainly not right-wing trolling. Winco fights unions. If their pay and benefits are so wonderful, what are they afraid of? Just because they are better than the worst, it does not follow that they are good. You can do a search on your own.

      • Haight

        They have no reason to fight unions now and the employees don’t try to unionize because the pay and benefits are good. They did fight unions in the 70s and that’s why they were going under. Then the employees bought them out and turned the company around, and yes it is indeed employee owned.

      • tessa

        Wincos pay and benefits are good. They treat their employees good also. I would never have accepted a job at Winco had they been union. Thank god they aren’t.

      • Asmodeus1971

        Two years ago when I moved out west to Washington, union people were protesting at Winco because it was nonunion… When I was walking out one of the protesters followed me as I pushed the cart to my car yelling at me and stating how I am part of what is wrong with this country and then he spat on me.

        Wasn’t a smart move on his part as he was about 5’10 and maybe 185 lbs at the most and I’m 6’1″ around 300 lbs. Spitting on me and telling me a military spouse, that I am what is wrong with this country because I was shopping at an employee owned store that was cleaner, had better quality food and better service than Safeway or Fred Myers the two other choices in this area that are both union stores. Needless to say my groceries went in my trunk, trunk closed, grocery cart in rack and this union protester went on his back.

        Unions killed this country. A union isn’t going to fix Walmart, it will just break it even more.

        The next week I asked the cashier waiting on me what she thought about this. Her reply was she quit her union job at Safeway to work at Winco. Her pay was slightly higher at Safeway but by time you took out the union fees she actually made more money in bring home pay at Winco. She also added that they treated her better and worked around her son’s medical appointments as she had a special needs child. Good companies don’t need unions, neither do bad companies, society and the workers just need to stand up and demand change.

        The really funny thing was the protesters outside the store, not one of them actually worked or had at Winco. A union is nothing but a middle man that adds more overhead. Why would a company want them? If an employee is treated well and paid well, why would they want them? They wouldn’t and at least from the people I talked to who work at Winco they don’t want the union, the union wants them.

      • Asmodeus1971

        When I first moved to Washington state three years ago there were union protestors at the local Winco here just off I-5 in Tacoma. The funny thing was not one of the protestors I asked worked for Winco. I asked people worked there if they wanted to unionize and they all said no. Two of the people I asked said they actually quit union jobs to work at Winco. One worked for Safeway the other for Fred Myers and they both said that when you add the money they save by not paying union dues that they were making a dollar or more an hour as employees with less than a year experience at Winco when they had both worked at the other companies for years.

        Winco wasn’t afraid of the unions, the local unions were losing workers to Winco and wanted their dues back. It had gotten to the point that the union protestors had attacked customers at some locations. One attacked me by spitting on my and yelling insults, but didn’t say much when he was laying on the ground after I responded.

        His attack was why I started asking question. I had did nothing that day but buy groceries and walk to my car with my six year old son. This union protestor followed me yelling his propaganda at me. When he told me I was destroying this country and was un-American and how he had pity for my son, just three weeks after my family relocated from our home in Baltimore, MD to Tacoma, WA because my wife was transferred from Ft Meade to Joint Base Lewis McChord, he earned my reaction.

      • Connor Mcleod

        If you hold stock. . .you own a portion of the company.


      • Jacob Piil

        You don’t buy stock. It is given to you. There is no option to buy stock. I work for WinCo so I would know.

    • T’omm J’Onzz

      the author’s use of quotations indicate he’s being sarcastic; socialist is what right-wingers would be wont to label it.

      • Liz

        “Right Wingers” just don’t want a large oppressive federal government. We are also very much against corporate welfare and the government picking winners and losers. I NEVER shop at Walmart and neither do any of my “tea party” friends. People sit around and believe caricatures that the media paints about other people. It keeps people divided and is very sad and disingenuous. I have never understood how desiring freedom can be such a divisive issue.

      • TL

        Right on the money Liz! If the people in this country could just see beyond party lines, they would see that we ALL really want the same thing. A government that is not just a huge bureaucracy, but an actual voice of the people! I have a great disdain for party lines and believe they should be abolished. We Americans tend to overdue it with the ‘labeling’ of everything!

      • Liz

        And hold the entire government accountable when it comes to scandals, fraud, waste and abuse. We need to stop getting outraged at only one party and not the other like we are rooting for our favorite sports teams! Thank you for your comment. It made my day. So much waste goes to perks that should actually help people. The selective outrage on both sides will be the death of this country. A house divided can not stand. That being said what a great company. As consumers we should demand this of all corporations from grocery stores, to cell phone companies, to banks! United we can make a difference and stay free in the process!! :)

      • sonny

        For as long as the Koch Brothers are in command, TP will have a bad name…

      • jules2u

        I think you are confused, or at least the author is because “right-wingers” actually know the definition of socialism.

      • Saori

        Odd, because there isn’t a definition of socialism. It’s a broad idea with many definitions.

    • Gerry Ellenson

      In the early to mid 60s, I worked for Sears … at the time quite a powerhouse in retailing. Employees had profit sharing plans that gave them stock at low prices. I knew a freight elevator operator who retired with $150,000.00 … a nice sum in the 60s. Unfortunately, they’re no longer the employee-focused company they used to be.

      • Asmodeus1971

        They aren’t a company anymore at all, Sears was bought out years ago…

      • Gerry Ellenson

        Yeah … I know … the passing of an era.

    • RRK

      Thanks Steve!! You’re the only one that recognizes this process is capitalist. :) What was this writer thinking?

      • disqus_mmZU8TPsvi

        He was thinking that people would get the sarcasm with his use of gasp and marks.
        Skip Moreland

    • Matthew King

      The store is democratically controlled. There is no CEO and the profit goes back to the workers. That’s the part that is somewhat different than a capitalist corporation.

  • Nashville_Os_Fan

    I wish we had one in Nashville

  • Lorraine Tucker Mack

    Hey Winco, the local Stop & Shop went out of business here in southern NH, and there is this big empty store space. Come east!

  • Abby56

    Please come to Florida!!

  • spinelli34523

    Employee owned and operated is all about true capitalism and the American way….not socialism. People working together to create their economic path without some private ‘i’m only involved as an an investor’board, doing for themselves, is as republican as it gets. No govt dependence. Perfect for Texas where…gasp…people generally ARE independent, self-reliant, and vote that way.

    • ron

      actually it is not employee owned… even though the employees own a majortity of stock… they do not have voting rights to vote on the board of directors…. it is privately owned by other private businesses… same tactics as walmart

      • jdkahler

        It is not employee _governed_, but if employees hold a majority of stock they have a majority stake in the business’s results. How many Walmart employees own Walmart stock, much less a majority? That’s the difference.

    • Prplchrndsh

      Why are so many Texans on welfare and Medicaid? Why aren’t businesses self-insured for disasters? Why don’t businesses regulate safety for employees, neighbors, neighborhoods?

  • maxiemom

    Come to Virginia!

  • B A Dragon

    It’ll be a while before they make it this far east. I do shop Costco whenever I can and rarely Walmart for anything.

    • Ellen H.

      I’ve not shopped at Wal-Mart since 2005.

  • Ellen H.

    Please come to Kansas!

  • Robert Haugh

    Wal Mart has brought about its own demise, with its unmitigated stance against America’s labor force. We all realize this type of competition will not bring about immediate results, but don’t believe for a second that the Wal Mart corporation doesn’t fear this happening on a national level. The very people who have been responsible for the corporations financial success (the employees) are every day becoming less inclined to accept the status quo. They are tired of being stripped of their dignity, of being grossly underpaid, and disrespected. They are showing that dissatisfaction by picketing, and I urge Wal Mart employees to seek union representation. It’s important that this movement be made on a national level, to include ALL branches of this corporation. Trying to accomplish anything on a store by store basis, will end up in failure. Wal Mart corporation has far too much financial worth, and an entrenched anti labor sentiment, to allow this effort to succeed, but with a movement against all stores simultaneously, you can be sure this will get their attention. Starting with Ronald Reagan, there has been an ongoing war against unionism,and that is the work of the corporations, turning people against the one entity which has the ability and the negotiating power to get America’s workers their well deserved recognition, and an appropriate rate of pay for work performed. ORGANIZE, UNIONIZE, START NOW!

    • Pat

      Well said, Robert!

    • Anotherfamily

      Isn’t it true though that they just fire employees for even talking about unions if they get wind of it or someone snitches? I don’t think corporate walmart will ever even entertain a union. Ugh.

      • Jay Mcfarland

        Yes. They tell you in the Orientation. I quit.

      • Robert Haugh

        All the more pleasurable it will be when a national movement forces them to finally unionize, and for the first time ever, pay their workers a living wage. The NLRB ruled against walmart and their efforts to prevent their employees from discussing union possibilities.

      • Mark Smith

        Same NLRB that endorses Card Check?

      • Dennis Carr

        AND THEN? The price of everything will have to go up by however much they demand. Whatever the UNION employee gets, 15% will go to the Officers for their hard work and having to fly to Vegas every year for some kind of meeting.. That bar of soap that was 50 cents is now a dollar and you will need it in the shower when the UNION comes to stay..

      • Gr8tobme

        so agree with you… Unions are just another Big Brother Bully

      • Andy Kane

        Dennis, Your post is almost worthy of, Comedy Central. your statement, “union representation” Right, and when the mobs take over the Union, your right back to square one..”, shows just how little you actually know about the unions, whether mob influenced or not. Back in the 20’s and 30’s, after the Great Depression, people took whatever jobs they could get, just because if they wanted to eat they didn’t have much choice. Yet, they were grateful to just have a job, ANY JOB! Then along came jobs with some hazardous conditions, like mining, road building, contracting, in terms of building structures like the Empire State Building in New York City. Who do you think fought for the people doing those jobs in terms of benefits? Certainly wasn’t the employers who were themselves exploiting the workers because of the condition of the overall economy, nope, it was the unions. And when as you suggested here those unions may have been influenced with some mob groups, they still took care of their own, finding laid off workers new positions, or sick worker’s families benefits like food and help with things like housing. So do you think those benefits come without any cost? Yes, unions do charge dues, monthly, quarterly, annually, but those dues do actually go to doing a hell of a lot more good for he hourly wage earners than the billions of dollars people like the Waltons take in annually off of the backs of the people they continue to hold down. They pushed their bought and paid for reps in DC to get Citizen’s United passed, so they could contribute more campaign funds to get votes swung their way without being penalized or prosecuted, since they make the claim, “Corporations are People”, which is the inverse of the actual truth, “People are Corporations”. Without all their hourly workers, they wouldn’t have corporations, yet they continue to keep on holding those workers down, and fighting tooth and nail against raising the federal minimum wage, all in the name of profitability, and stuffing their already bulging pockets. It was recently posted that a Mr. McMillon, a CEO at Walmart posted a yearly salary of, $9.56 MILLION, largely earned not from the sweat off of his brow, but that of the employees of the chain. You know, the ones he and his fellow corporate shills keep holding down.

      • David Gray

        Again with your condescending attitude towards those who don’t endorse your arcane and nostalgic defense of Unions. When you respond to people by suggesting they are ‘brain dead,’ most will simply turn you off, we can hear that rubbish anywhere… this is a substantive discussion, or was, until you began talking down to everyone.

      • Asmodeus1971

        Just s little fact check for you the Empire State Building was actually built during the beginning of the Great Depression not after it. The Empire State Building was started in 1929 and finished in 1931. After The Great Depression would be WWII and most men went to war and the people working were women like my grandmother for companies like Martin Marietta, where she worked as a machine operator and precision grinder. Oddly when the war was over the union at Martin’s made sure most of the women workers were displaced not defending them at all so the men could come home and take their jobs back. Just facts now unions were major backers of the good old boys networks that tried pushing women back into the kitchen after the war and ignored the fact that women were the ones manufacturing most of the weapons that Allied Troops used to win the war. Many women could only find work in small family owned non union businesses. That was what my grandmother was forced into doing as she went to work for a small precision machine shop making surgical tools making more money out of the union than she did in the union at Martin’s. Oddly, the union never told her she was only making about 1/3 of her male counterparts that did the job before her. I knew these next couple facts because they were part of a documentary a few years ago, the female workers during WWII at the plant in Middle River, MD actually produced more per worker than the men who held the jobs before and after them, they also had lower percentage of defects but were paid on average 1/3 what the men who before the war held the same jobs. Oh and they paid the same union dues while making less. So how was that any different than the companies ripping them off?

      • Amanda Russo

        People like you are the reason I am afraid of what will happen once I get my teaching degree. You want to punish people who provide a public service (police, firefighters, teachers).

        You know, I can sort of understand Police and Teachers. There are some bad police and teachers. But firefighters? You are honestly going to talk about how bad firefighters are because they have a union? Firefighters do nothing but put their lives on the line. They don’t arrest people for arbitrary reasons. They don’t give kids a lower grade because they don’t like them. All they do is put their lives on the line. You ought to be ashamed of yourself for ever criticizing firefighters.

      • Charles Vincent

        Query where in his post did Asmodeus1971 say anything about “You want to punish people who provide a public service (police, firefighters, teachers).”?

      • David Gray

        Well said Dennis, well said.

      • Asmodeus1971

        You do understand the company this article is about is nonunion. Actually two years ago when I moved out west to Washington, union people were protesting at Winco because it was nonunion… When I was walking out one of the protesters followed me as I pushed the cart to my car yelling at me and stating how I am part of what is wrong with this country and then he spat on me.

        Wasn’t a smart move on his part as he was about 5’10 and maybe 185 lbs at the most and I’m 6’1″ around 300 lbs. Spitting on me and telling me a military spouse, that I am what is wrong with this country because I was shopping at an employee owned store that was cleaner, had better quality food and better service than Safeway or Fred Myers the two other choices in this area that are both union stores. Needless to say my groceries went in my trunk, trunk closed, grocery cart in rack and this union protester went on his back.

        Unions killed this country. A union isn’t going to fix Walmart, it will just break it even more.

        The next week I asked the cashier waiting on me what she thought about this. Her reply was she quit her union job at Safeway to work at Winco. Her pay was slightly higher at Safeway but by time you took out the union fees she actually made more money in bring home pay at Winco. She also added that they treated her better and worked around her son’s medical appointments as she had a special needs child. Good companies don’t need unions, neither do bad companies, society and the workers just need to stand up and demand change.

      • Patricia Baldwin-Dennis

        SInce the employees own the company, there is no need for a union. They are going to do what is in their best interest anyway.

      • Chloe1966

        Unions aren’t a bad thing. Something needs to be done for the Walmart workers. However, Winco sounds like a wonderful company and I applaud what they are doing for their employees, with or without a union. If more company’s were like this, we wouldn’t need unions in the first place. But please don’t blame unions for the demise of a nation. There is way more to it than that.

      • Asmodeus1971

        Not all unions are the same and sorry but a lot are bad. UAW killed the car industry in the US.

        My father worked for a boat manufacture in the 1960. It was a family owned company Owens Yacht and they were non union. Works made a fair wage, but another company wanted to buy them out. The family said no.

        This company was union, and they basically had the union swamp this company’s employees with request for the works to organize and join their union. It was a battle because a lot of the works didn’t want to join the union. They were happy how things were but eventually the union made grounds and the company became unionized. This put the family business on the verge of bankruptcy and they had to sell out to Brunswick the union company that Owens had said no to when they were profitable and family owned.

        Brunswick ran Owens for a year or two at the original plants, then they closed the plants let go all of the workers and eventually merged Owens into Concorde and eliminated the Owens brand all together.

        Brunswick and the union caused the demise of a family business and in the end this made every employee of this company to lose their job. Unions have been involved in doing business like this for well over 100 years and it has ruined the job market in the US. It has put big corporations in control of everything including the government. Corps play one side with Republicans and Unions the other with Democrats and now the unions have played themselves out of power because the other side was even more greedy than the unions were. Both sides are responsible for ruining this country though, both sides whether it be union or corps, Democrat or Republican; they all ruined the U.S.A.

      • Lisztman

        This was the fault of Brunswick.

      • Asmodeus1971

        The Union is what came in and put the family business in the situation it had to sell to Brunswick. What happened after that was Brunswick’s fault but what put the secure family ran business out of business was the union.

      • Lisztman


      • Andy Kane

        I think you have contradicted and answered the question about unions yourself here. You used one word that explains it all, GREED!

      • Asmodeus1971

        Not sure how I contradicted anything but greed does cover it all and I think I have said that in different ways a few times. A lot of people I know in unions can not point out one thing their union has done for them also besides collect dues. The people I have talked to at Winco have told me they make more money at Winco than they did at the union stores just because of the difference of not paying union dues and got the same exact benefits or better at Winco. Others have pointed out that in the retail industry union or nonunion for the most part the market dictates the price and there is little to no difference between most companies including the easy to bash Walmart. Almost every complint about Walmart can be made about companies like Sears, Target, Macys when you look at their market their wages fall in line with Walmart or are actually lower than Walmart and this is true about union and non union companies. A lot of the companies that have better benefits than Walmart also have lower average wages. There are a few companies that go against this like Winco, Amazon and Costco but not many others.

      • Andy Kane

        Asmodeus1971, In regard to your statement about people you know in unions not being able to point to any on thing the union has done for them besides collect dues, I submit that either you don’t really know too many people actively involved with unions, or the ones you do happen to know have had all he hard work done by the unions while they themselves were still swimming around inside their parents as sperm cells or eggs. Do you think we’d have even the smallest amount of what we today consider average workplace benefits and safety items if not for the work of the unions in the past? Highly unlikely! You also stated that while many companies have better benefit packages than Walmart, that their wages are either right in line with Walmart, or below. So does that mean you don’t equate better benefits to being worth more money? I you or a family member becomes ill and as a result laid up for a couple of months, would you rather have the insurance company paying for that, or have it come out of your pockets, or worse, when you can’t pay, have judgments brought against you? I now firsthand what I’m talking about here, as I personally was put out of commission in a motor vehicle accident, spent 6 months in a hospital in traction, (never got out of bed for those 6 months), another 4 months in a one legged body cast, then another 4 months in a leg cast with a hinged brace at the knee. If not for the insurance I had both through my vehicle insurance company, as well as my major medical, union plan, (which by the way the union kept my payments up to date during my disability), I could have become destitute very easily and lost pretty much everything I had worked all those years for. After getting back on my feet and back to work, I still had some bills that weren’t covered, but my vehicle policy sued the other driver to get those covered, but without my health insurance, for the amount of time I was out of commission, my vehicle insurance never would have been able to cover all the expenses by itself, which would have left those expenses squarely on my shoulders. Again, many f the benefits we take so much for granted these days we wouldn’t have at all if not for the work of unions.

      • David Gray

        Andy Kane, as I suggested above, all of this Union nostalgia is wonderful, but you fail to address the dearth of Union membership, and the shrinking of the entire Union movement. Further, the condescending way you, and your pal Lisztman go about defending Unions provides far greater insight into why they are fading away, than why they should thrive and grow.

      • jules2u

        I have to ask this, everyone is complaining about Walmart, but in reality, they do about the same as many other retail stores, union and nonunion retailers. It is the nature of the business in most cases, the market sets the average wages, the economic climate sets the hours. Even Winco from what I have read has many part-time positions, poor scheduling, and at that point is really not much different than any other retail business. So a person gets paid $11 an hour, but if you are only working 20 hours a week that is not all that great.

      • Andy Kane

        Jules, Were you born brain dead, or did you fall on your head at an early age? For some people, who for whatever reasons, can only work a 20 hour work week, possibly young kids at home, and not enough money to pay a full time baby sitter, the difference is quite a bit! Just using round numbers here, if you take say a minimum of $7.00 per hour, times 20 hours is $140.00, those same 20 hours at $11.00 per hour is $220.00, a difference of $80.00 per pay check, or, $4160.00, over a 52 week period. To many people whose jobs ended due to corporate greed and their jobs being sent to some third world country, that is one heck of a lot of money. Don’t know what you do, or how much you earn, but your post sounds like the rambling of a corporate shill, likely making way more than your actual skill set demands you should be paid, and probably for no other reason that you’re related to a family member. Must be nice to just look at over $4000.00 per year and say it isn’t all that great, bet you’d be kicking and screaming like the spoiled brat you apparently are if someone tried to dock your pay by that much though!

      • Lisztman

        Sorry, Asmodeus. Instead of railing about unions, read some history books. Historical (fact) texts, not opinions.

        There are plenty of companies, non-union, that treat their employees very well (the gist of the Winco story). There is no need for a union at a company such as this — and you were right to tell the union activist where to get off. Your “right” ends there. After that you’re wrong. Unions most decidedly did not “kill this country.” Because, first of all, you’re calling this country “dead”.

        But second, and more generally, unions built the middle class that fuels the American economy. The more we pander to the 1% — widening the gap between the rich and the lower class, the more the middle class will shrink and the closer we get to a Dickensian (or Roman Empire) state.

        Unions were formed specifically to end the abuse of employees who were supposed to be happy to toil at the bidding of the owner. Did some unions go overboard? Absolutely. But that was not the fault of the union concept. That was the fault of the union itself — as well as management that buckled for too long in the 50’s and 60’s rather than face a strike.

        Unfortunately as long as there are Wal-Marts and the like that treat their workers as chattel, there will be a need for unions.

      • Asmodeus1971

        Look at almost every industry that has heavy union support in the US and you will notice they all have one thing in common, there work has been sent some place else where wages are lower.

        Sorry but places like Walmart used to be jobs for teens or a part time job for a spouse. Unions have chased away almost all of the manufacturing jobs that would have been the jobs for non skilled labor that are now looking at jobs for discount retailers like they are meant to be a career. That is what unions have done to this country. You can preach until you are blue in the face but those facts you can not change. Non skilled jobs from manufacturing to costumer service have moved to other countries. Proof is in plain sight to prove what I am saying is fact now. What you are saying was fact 100 years ago but unions went too far.

      • Andy Kane

        Asmodeus1971, Unions didn’t, “chase away almost all of the manufacturing jobs for non-skilled labor”, that was done largely by the retailers themselves, shipping manufacturing jobs offshore purely in the name of profit. Don’t believe me? Look at all those tax incentives given over the last few years to mega corporations like WalMart, supposedly for the purpose of, “Job Creation”. What kind of jobs did they actually create here? Were there any new manufacturing plants opened here in the states to put American workers to work at anything above minimum wage? Unions didn’t, kill the job market here in the US, people like the Walton’s, Koch’s, and Rove’s, along with their bought and paid for reps in Congress did and have been doing so on an ever increasing scale since Reagan was in office. The jist of what I am getting from you is that you are completely against unions. Remember that the next time you need a cop, city, state, local, as the majority of police forces across the country have some sort of unions to take care of them, or are members of larger, “PBA”, (police benevolent associations). If not for the benefits they get thanks to union representation, just how many people do you think would be lining up for those jobs to protect you and your family, while risking their own lives in many instances to do so. Granted the average WinCo, or Walmart employee likely doesn’t face daily life or death challenges as do law enforcement officers, but the concept comes down to the same thing, employees, any employees want certain protections for themselves and their families in the workplace. We live in a country where unions built the middle class, which in turn built this country! We don’t live in Russia or Siberia of the 60’s, but in what used to be the greatest manufacturing country in the world, largely because of unions. The reason we aren’t regarded in the same way throughout the world anymore is because of corporate greed, and crooked, bought and paid for politicians, who would rather sell out the very people who actually believed their hype, and voted for them, in favor of corporations who many times don’t even have holdings in a particular rep’s state, but dump tons of campaign dollars there to ensure if a new law that might not be exactly friendly to their company comes up for a vote that they will walk away unscathed. To deny this fact is to almost deny our country’s existence.

      • Asmodeus1971

        The problem with your point is simple, Walmart is not a manufacturer. They may pressure company X for lower prices but it is company X who decides to move its jobs. This was going on way before Walmart had any clout to push any company. It started in industries like automobiles and electronics. These products had moved to lower cost manufacturing countries long before Walmart was a national company let alone international. We can say corporate greed caused this and that is partially true but this greed was created by the massive overhead caused by unions never ending demands for more pay, so it was greed on both sides. Most of these companies, especially the ones that tried to keep as much of their manufacturing in the US as possible are out of business or been bought out and broken into several pieces. Just look at RCA and Zenith. They were at once two of the largest manufactures of TVs, radios and other entertainment electronics. RCA has been bought broken up and sold in pieces so many times. Zenith the last manufacture to produce TVs wholly in the US was bought fully by Korean company LG in 1999. The best cars at the ones with the most American made parts are from companies like Honda, Toyota, etc and most are in non union shops where employees are making comparable to the union counterparts in other factories. Unions aren’t the only cause but they are on of the major causes of this exodus.

        Now as far as the police, fire fighters, etc. etc. etc. yes this is true that most are union but it is also true that many should be fired or demoted. Many make more money then those deserving because of the way the contracts the unions have are set up. Instead of the person working hard and deserving too often under qualified or undeserving people get positions because of union rules. Incompetent people can’t be fired because of union contracts and people desrving of a position can’t be promoted because the union says this person has to get the job because they have been a union member longer; even if that person i lousy at their job. Proof is in many school systems around the country.

      • Mark Bradford

        Ask all the non union textile and furniture workers in NC what happened to their jobs. There needs to be a new re-industrialization here in the US.

      • Lisztman

        Wrong. Dead wrong.
        You are making the most common error in statistics — seeing a supposed correlation of data over time and assuming an automatic correlation of the reason/result.

        I do not see that you’ve produced a statistical study (link) that agrees with what you’ve said.

        I’ve already admitted (above) that unions AND management went overboard in the 50s and 60s. With the result that Toyota, Datsun (now Nissan), and Honda gained a substantial portion of the US market (after they learned to inject quality). But, today, right down the road from me, there are supermarkets that are union shops and supermarkets that are non-union shops. And they’re all surviving fine, TYVM.

        You obviously have a reason to hate unions — perhaps you own a business. But, again, read your history books — find out what unions DID accomplish, especially 80 or 100 years ago. And do some genuine study on the subject before you pontificate.

      • Asmodeus1971

        No you are wrong, dead wrong. What brand are those union shops that are doing so well and surviving? Safeway used to be the largest grocery store chain in the world, not just the US, They are union. They have been on the verge of bankruptcy for decades o the point they subdivided and the Safeway in Canada was one company, Safeway in America was another, in the UK and Australia the same. I’m not even sure now if they exist in those countries but at one time they were all the same company and are not totally separate from each other because they were doing so poorly. Safeway in the US just got bought out by Cerberus Capital Management LP who also owns Albertson’s. Healthy companies do not got bought out or merge into a company like Cerberus.

        Safeway and Kroger are the two largest “grocery” centered companies in the US. Kroger in my area own to brand stores QFC and Fred Meyers. This is what unions do now, not 80 years ago. If you walk into a QFC, Fred Meyers or Safeway here were I live in Washington state and buy a weeks worth of groceries you will spend anywhere from 15% to 40% more for the same groceries than you will at a Walmart or Winco.

        Safeway and QFC for the most part you will notice no difference or a decline in service because neither of these stores have helpful service at all. They are normally understaffed and have switched to 1/4 or more of the registers being self service. On that aspect Fred Meyers is about the same but they do seem to offer a little better service in the stores than Safeway and slightly better than QFC which is better than Safeway. The local Walmart Super Center is about equal to QFC.

        Now Winco on the other hand is more setup like a warehouse store hybrid, yet they have employees throughout the store who are willing to help, more so than QFC, Safeway or even Walmart. Fred Meyers is about the same as far as customer service, but also cost more than Winco or Walmart. My point is you can get good customer service at non union shops that take care of their employees and on the outside they look no different than the best a union place has to offer but it is rare that a union shop can offer this service and come anywhere near close to matching the value of the non union shop. Example my shopping in the last week 2% Milk was $2.85 a gallon at Winco it was $3.55 at Safeway, $3.10 at Fred Meyer and $2.95 at Walmart. Large Eggs were $3.69 for 18 at Safeway and $6.59 for 6 dozen at Winco.

        As far as knowing the history of what unions did 80 or 100 years ago, I know that history but that was then, this is now. The world is different, it is much easier for people to organize without a union hall or union governing body. The wonders of the electronic age townhall meetings can be held without all the overhead expenses that union organization requires. People can make their voices heard without paying dues and can accomplish what unions did without people collecting money to be the middle man.

      • David Gray

        Lisztman, I heartily agree with your ‘historic’ view of Unions, but as I noted above… that was then… this is now, and Unions, and Union membership are shrinking for a reason. Beyond that, support for Unions among the general population has NEVER been lower. Sad but true, but blame lay almost entirely with the Unions, and I wouldn’t expect that they are going to make a comeback anytime soon.

      • Lisztman

        @Mr. Gray: Correct, sir. I believe that diminishing membership is due a) to the perception that an individual can achieve the benefits without paying in, and b) to the fights against unions launched by businesses. 80 years ago union rights were staunchly defended by the DOL. Where those rights are pretty much still in place, it’s harder today for the workers to fight them.

        And “Right to Work” laws in various states have killed a lot of union activity — laws enacted by legislators whose campaigns are funded by businesses and business owners… you get the idea.

      • Rick Haste

        its clear your intelligence is lacking.Unions built this country,you have weekends,vacation,healthcare,and good wages through the unions.Corporate greed is what is killing this country.As a military spouse your either a huge woman or you let your woman do your battles,I am sure its cheaper on the fort.

      • Asmodeus1971

        It is clear you are one of those big men behind the screen of a computer trying to attack the manhood of a person you will never meet in person. My wife is a medic in the US Army Reserve and a nurse in civilian world. So she happens to be in a union. I know many people in unions two of them happen to be presidents of their local union and even at those positions in the union I know people in the same field making more money with non union companies than they are making. You point out things unions have done and these things are fact but they are also things the unions did 75 to 100 years ago. Now do me a favor and learn how to type, spell and use some form of grammar before you start attacking anyone on their intelligence or lack there of.

      • lisa

        Good for you! I think spitting on someone is one of the vilest things you can do. I would have knocked his ass out too!!

      • David Gray

        I spent nearly 30 years in the UFCW, and I am grateful for the benefits my Union membership provided to me, but that was then… this is now… and Unions are, for the most part over. They will continue to be less relevant over time, and it’s their own fault, they did it entirely to themselves. Greed is greed, no matter which side of the negotiating table you are sitting on, and the ‘greedy’ behavior of most Unions has resulted in a loss of support for their existence among the general population. This is a tragedy, no doubt, but the Unions need only look in the mirror to find the culprit.

      • Stacy Baker

        The orientation at Wal-Mart has a video with anti-union propaganda.

      • Saori

        and anti-alcohol…And now a derogatory speech from your instructor about unions. It’s all very fun when you can see through it.

    • Dennis Carr

      “union representation” Right, and when the mobs take over the Union, your right back to square one.. The Unions are no different that any government, the one’s at the top seek domain over the workers.. The heads of the Unions become richer and richer and if you don’t like it, they have the thugs to instruct you on how to behave.. Robert is probably one of the “earners” of the Union.. Employee ownership is the only way that some things work for the employees,. I was employed by the Postal Service for 47 years. Long before Unions and the Postmasters were politically connected, which made them a danger to your employment.. The Unions came, you could join or not, either way they were required to protect you.. As long as they could put a finger in the eye of management, they did.. I joined for the health benefits, then their benefits did not cover my hospital of choice, so I quit the Union.. Then the Union Stewart Phyllis decided to constantly pressure the management to change my assignments, I was working to hard and was hurting her overtime. I never joined the Postal Service because of OVERTIME.. When I joined you did not get it..
      UNIONS!~ The very reason that most things cost to much and the very reason that so many jobs have gone overseas.. Ask an illegal alien which UNION he/she belongs too and they don’t pay taxes as a lot of them get paid cash.. Don’t say it doesn’t happen, I have seen it..

      • Guest

        What century are you getting your information from??

      • Andy Kane

        Same question I was about to ask!

      • Andy Kane

        So, you quit the postal workers union because at the time they didn’t cover hospitalization at a particular hospital you liked? I have to ask then, what kind of coverage did you get, I’d have to assume on your own, and at what cost in comparison to the union plan? Most health insurance plans do have a provision where even if your favorite hospital isn’t covered for elective procedures, they will still pay for you to go there for emergency services. Sounds more to me that you were then and have been for at least 47years of your government employee status, a union buster, in your own right. And you worked there for 47 years? What kind of retirement benefits did you get, just straight from the job, and just who do you think fought to make sure, member or not that you got them? YUP! That would be the union. I have had run ins in the past with shop stewards, but guess what, that is generally an elected position, you could have elected to back someone else for that position. And I can just about guarantee that your former shop steward wasn’t in that position for your entire 47 year run at the post office. And you yourself stated that any involvement you had with her was long before the unions and postmasters were politically connected, again, a statement that makes little or no sense, as the postal service has always been, especially back at least 40+ years ago, a division of the government, and as such, like it or not, politically connected. I am also very sure that working for the Postal Service, in all of those 47 years, with the exception of any possible probationary period they may place on new hires, that you were never paid, “minimum wage”, union member or not. And when the union members got raises, I’m sure you did as well. So get your butt down off of your anti union soap box, and instead get on your knees to thank God that we have had the ability to have groups like unions to fight for the common working person out there, unlike places like Russia, or China. You may also want to turn to a different news channel other than FAUX NEWS, or Rush Limbaugh. Might actually open your eyes to other opinions besides their narrow view of things.

    • Gr82bme

      Sam Walton is spinning in his grave based upon what has happened to his company. Wal Mart was an employee owned co and the employees were loyal and LOVED it. Sam Walton died and his daughter sold his ideals to the highest stock broker. What a shame!! Wal Mart could turn the tide if they dumped their external stocks and went back to employee owned stocks.

      • Patrick Dennison

        Nah, much of the current workforce of Walmart came from a whole different background and they don’t understand the concepts. If you tried to explain it to them and expected them to do more because it was now their company, they would stand slack jawed in confusion. You want me to work harder? Yeah right…4 reasons I won’t shop at Walmart here in SoCal (Ventura County): Outsourced goods and labor (third world), dirty stores, poor-quality employees, disgusting shoppers. Winco rules and I am sure it will only get better, as they begin to carry more and a wider selection of goods.

      • Darwin

        Agreed. I was thinking about the difference of employee in Costco vs. Wal-mart. The Costco employees seems more far more advanced. If Wal-Mart wants to compete with Costco and this store I’ve never heard of WinCo then they are going to have to clean house and hire a new group of employees. Wal-mart is turning into K-mart, losing power and will eventually have to close stores too. Is there and education requirement that Costco and WinCo have for employees that makes them more advanced than Wal-mart? Or because they are private, they can be more selective of who they hire? Darwin was right. If you want to move up in the world you have to work for it and educate yourself. There is always a way. K-mart is learning this first hand where I live and Wal-mart is next.

      • Cemetery Girl

        Have you worked at Walmart? There are many good employees (there are some bad, but I haven’t worked anywhere that didn’t have that happen), but working there defeats a person. When you’re told at one of their pep rally meetings to give great customer service, yet later that day get chewed out for helping customers find the products they need and not spending the whole time stocking a department (which you may not even be familiar with because they’ve pulled you from somewhere else.) When you have one shift manager tell you to set up a display of one thing on an end cap and when the next shift manager comes in tells you “no, pull that we need this on the end cap.” When your supervisor will complain that you let your line get too long because a customer disputed the price of something and you had to call five different departments to try to find one that had an employee to check it because they’ve cut hours again. It is beyond frustrating, and to top it off you have some customers treating you like less than human because you work at Walmart (so obviously you are the lowest of the low.) Many employees would like a chance to have a say, not have five managers telling you ten different things, and to be just be treated human (by management and customers.)

      • Saori

        And the frigging classes and brainwashing videos. wtf. Hey, go do thirty online classes so people can spit on you.
        And make sure you watch the anti-union video..
        Or the new one that claims if you sell alcohol to someone, who takes it to a party, and a minor drinks it and dies you lose your job and go to jail -_- Yeah. If you aren’t utterly defeated and feeling like crap after week two, you’re some sort of saint…or masochist.

        So I find it odd when people are like “You should hire smarter people” Three quarters of the people I work with have college degrees, are college students or former high ranking veterans that went to college. Are their people who are dumb as hell? yeah, usually the customers but I have some co-workers…Yikes. But yeah, sorry if we don’t seem that great when we need to stick to a script to not be called back and yelled at for not saying thank you for shopping at Wal-mart, or for not engaging if you’re ticked.

      • N

        It’s not that the employees aren’t good. No one here is dissing the employees. What everyone here is upset with are the record profits being recorded by companies, and the record bonuses being given to the CEOs of the companies. Customer service sucks.. and the employees deserve better pay. That’s why people hate Walmart.

      • Cemetery Girl

        Actually, I replied on a post that specifically said “poor quality employees”. The employees deserve better pay and better treatment. People that work there get treated poorly, by managers and customers. I was had a customer that was buying an item and it had no bar code. It happens, they fall off or people take them off (it was a cup). She hadn’t paid attention to the price on the shelf, which is fine because nobody pays attention to the price of everything you pick up. I had to call the department to get the price. The woman complained the whole time about how they must hire the dumbest people on the planet is they can’t remember the prices of the things they sell. (Who would remember the price of all the items in a Super Walmart????)

      • Saori

        As an Emplyee of that horrid store I can corroborate everything you just said. However usions were disbanded in my state (And education funding was cut too….F*&^ You Walker) So no chance.

        And Sam Walton wasn’t a peach either. He sounds wonderful on paper, however then you realize he was ordered by the court to pay all the missing money from paychecks to his employees so he gave them the checks….And promptly said anyone who cashed them would be fired. It’s gone steadily downhill since then.

    • Gr82bme

      Unions had there place… but today .. they are just another form of extortion for the working man. If you don’t think so, just look at the laws they tried to pass, looking for open voting. Unions are just another big brother (bully) . At one time, they made this country great… now they are just part of the political feces smother us. If Win Co can make employees happy without a union… it’s a better deal

    • Melissa Callahan Whelan

      What is missing here are all the consumers of Wal Mart products. Wal Mart won’t go anywhere until folks stop walking in the doors. They went after Wal Mart squashed our first amendment rights, why would they stop now?

      • Asmodeus1971

        What is missing here is Wal Mart is no different than Target, Kmart, Sears, Macy’s or any other retail store. They are just easy to bash because everyone else is doing it.

      • jules2u

        Even many “union” retailers are similar to Walmart, providing low wage jobs, part-time hours, scheduling nightmares for the employees. People need to understand the “unions” will not step in to “save” the employees, they are only in it to get their dues and make their contributions to their “charities” (mostly political candidates.

      • Saori

        People in my area can’t not go there. low income, and Walmart is close and cheap. Nobody has the money for anywhere else even if nobody can stand it.

    • jules2u

      My only question would be what union? after all I know union stores that follow similar policies as Walmart, but the lucky part-time employees in those stores that earn about the same as Walmart employees get the bonus of paying union dues out of their petty paychecks.

      • Robert Haugh

        Well, this is an old post to be sure, but as you have addressed the issue, Would you provide the names and locations of the stores that you refer to in your statement? I have never heard of any union business anywhere, whose employees worked for minimum wage. Many people don’t seem to get the fact that ALL advances in labors history came as a result of unions fighting for workers rights regarding wages,benefits and job safety. If left up to the corporations to decide, we would still be working seven days a week, instead of five,longer work days, and for even less pay. You have to wake up to the fact that the corporations will give NOTHING to the workers that they are not REQUIRED to give by contract. and when I say give to the workers, I’m not talking about handouts, I’m talking about giving to the workers what they have rightfully earned.You could learn a lot if you look up on line “the history of unions in America”.

      • jules2u

        If you live in Michigan or the other states that have Meijer stores, their starting wages are around $8 an hour depending on experience, most positions are part-time (less than 25 hours a week), you can be scheduled any time during the week as the stores are open 24/7, you are required to pay union dues out of your wages, which may have stopped only in RtW states. Benefits are limited based on your hours. This is a UNION shop, but the employees are about as well off as any nonunion retail workers. BTW most Walmart employees earn $8 an hour or more

      • Andy Kane

        Jules, Really, you know of union stores that follow similar policies to that of WalMart, and their part time employees have to pay their dues out of their petty paychecks? First of all, having worked over 50 years, at various employers, including N.Y. Tel, and the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, both union positions, I have RARELY, if EVER seen a part time employee even offered membership into the union. If they didn’t qualify as full time employees then they weren’t eligible to join. So, if you can’t join, can’t reap the benefits of membership, how can they force you to pay union benefits? Sounds like maybe you’ve either been drinking from the same Kool Aid pitcher as Rush Limbaugh, or most of the reporters on FAUX news, either way you need to stop! Or maybe you’re just smoking some f that medical marijuana, and it seems to be working! So either put down the glass of Kool Aid, or the bong, but once you do, I too would like the names o these business you mentioned, just as another poster below, Robert Haugh has asked for. From what I saw in your reply to him instead of naming the, “union stores”, you’ve managed to name one, in Michigan, Meijer, who, according to your reply pay their lowest level employees, about $8.00 per hour, and you state that they have to pay union dues out of their wages for positions of 25 weekly hours or less, which again I have to remind you that as a former member of two large unions, an having had family and friends who also worked in union positions, most unions don’t want the money from part timers, especially when they are generally at the bottom of the pay scale. So, write back when and if you can actually come up with some at least semi-concrete proof of your statement, r at least the name of two more such employers who practice these policies. Or just keep on blowing the smoke out of your butt, people will see it for what it is, BULLSHIT!

      • jules2u

        Believe what you will, this was the offer my sister in law obtained from the company. $8 an hour to start Part-time and required to pay dues each month before the RtW law passed. I slow know of part-time workers in schools who unless they opt out of the union are required to pay dues even thought they work only a couple hours a week. Don’t like the truth, learn to deal with it

      • David Gray

        Andy… it’s 2014… not 1964. Maybe you need a nap. UFCW, Northern California, Safeway Stores Inc. Nearly 70% of the workers are classified as PART TIME, even if they often work a full time schedule. The ONLY obligation Safeway has to PART TIME employees is to schedule them a minimum of 20 hours per week, they have no guarantee of anything beyond that. Of course, PART TIME equals lesser benefits, fewer protections, and while you can ‘bid’ for full time positions, the PART TIME structure, negotiated by the UNION, means they rarely need provide full time status and benefits to anyone. Thanks again UFCW 642 and UFCW 1119. Further, the UNION endorses a ‘tiered’ wage structure that pays much lower wages to HABA, Deli, Bakery, Seafood, Floral department workers, who are working just as hard as the grocery clerks and cashiers, but can only earn 60% of their wages, and these departmental workers, full time or not, are NEVER offered the opportunity to ‘crossover’ to the higher wage opportunities within the same store. Thanks again UFCW 642 and UFCW 1119. Let’s face it Andy Kane, your UNION nostalgia means very little to todays workers, hence UNIONS are fading away, whether you or I like it, or not. Have a nice snooze.

      • Asmodeus1971

        You are talking about unions at port authorities not taking part time. This is a story about retail, which is a whole different world. Most employees at most retail chains are part-time. I know things at most port authority style jobs have also changed in the last 20 years as I used to work at the ports in Baltimore, MD as a part-time/on call worker for the longshoreman’s union there and know that many of the port authority workers were also part-time/seasonal and were union. I was loading and unload automobiles, farm equipment and construction equipment. We took things from the pier to the ship or from the ship to the pier. From that point on non-union temps with a checker from the port would check them with customs and once they cleared take them to the varies distribution company lots on or around the marine terminal.

    • Linda Kwolek

      I agree, but the one time a union was successfully integrated, Walmart abruptly closed the store and terminated the employees.

  • gimmieabreak

    Great store! Too bad this article is so beyond laced bias and, dare I say, pro-socialist garbage that it takes away from what a company did with the freedoms and relatively minimal regulations (as compared to Europe or anywhere else really) that our country provides. A place like this would most likely not exist in any other country our in ours without the free market we have.

  • trucksmiles

    One of the little known secrets of Walmart’s success is the fact that they have always welcomed truck drivers at their stores. Many of the stores have dedicated truck parking and they will allow drivers to take their 10 hour breaks in their parking lot. One Walmart decided to stop allowing trucks to park on their lot. The put up the signs and the poles to keep the trucks out. Two months later, they took them down. The manager said that when the truck drivers stopped shopping there, weekly sales went down significantly. Other stores have single locations that trucks can get into, but Sam Walton made it well known to drivers that they are welcome at all Walmart stores. I hate Walmart and would love to shop elsewhere – but I am limited to where I can get my truck into. I spend an average of $150 a week at Walmart on food, clothes and supplies for my truck. I would love to spend that at another store – but none of them welcome trucks as a company – it’s hit or miss at each store. I’m a truck driver with many time constraints, I don’t have the time for hit or miss.

    • Haight

      If Walmart welcomes truck drivers they forgot to send that memo to the Idaho stores. None I been to in a 200 mile radius allows truck parking and have signs at all of them saying as much. The Pocatello/Chubbuck store has waged a war on trucks in their lots and have tow services on speed dial.

      • TL

        Same in New York.

      • Asmodeus1971

        Never had a Walmart chase me away when I worked on trucks in the early 2000s. I drove mostly in CT, NH, RI, MA, NY, NJ, MD, PA, VA, NC, SC, GA, FL, AL, MS, LA, TN, KY, OH, IN, IL, MI, and MO.

        Drove a Freightliner Classic with a 53′ reefer.

  • Marjorie Reinbold

    WE NEED your store in Beaumont TX !

  • Joan Brown

    Is this another membership store? If it is it isn’t any better than Sam’s or Costco. I don’t know why stores think people should buy a membership to shop in their stores. The should be honored to have our business. For the people that complain about WalMart putting the little stores out of business, I bet those little stores didn’t have the selection of merchandise that WalMart has, and I bet it was higher priced. I grew up in a small town and know what the selection of merchandise was like in those stores. In order to do real shopping(clothes, fabric, books, appliances, etc.) we had to drive 60 miles one way and that wasn’t even to a WalMart. Granted the stores in my home town had some of these items, but not much of a selection.

    • Haight

      No it isn’t a membership store.

  • ziggypop

    We don’t have either Costco or Winco where I live and I sure wish they would hurry up. Sams/chinamart have a stronghold in my neck of the woods.

  • ditomagik

    Please come to Maine. We need you badly. I will help. Just call me. I’ll do anything I can.

  • Katie

    I absolutely love Winco! I love their prices, I love the bulk section, I love their bakery section with those huge bagels…it’s just all around awesome! We used to live in Oregon where there was a Winco, now we live in Memphis Tennessee where there is no Winco and I was so sad not to see one here. I miss it so much, I cannot wait until they go nationwide! Winco is so much better than Walmart and I am so tired of shopping at Walmart!

    • Asmodeus1971

      Way better than Food Lion, Winn Dixie, Kroger (which out here owns Fred Myers) and the other stores in the east and central part of the country. I have lived all over the country and prefer Winco to any grocer I have ever shopped at, include Whole Foods or Wegmans.

  • Dawn

    We love shopping at Winco, unfortunately it is 45mins away and not always practical. They need to expand their paper goods section and personal care product line. I am hoping that as they get bigger and buy in bigger quantities, the prices on those items will be more competitive with Wal Mart.

  • erikatheicyone

    Dear Winco, there is a big, beautiful space here in Prescott, AZ just perfect for you, ready and waiting! We have too many Wal-Marts. We can use a store like your’s. And our community could use the jobs, too! Win! Win!

  • Alan Jones

    Pennsylvania would be glad to have you. Be more than happy to work and shop there!

  • HB

    The lady at the Winco in my area must not have received the memo. She’s a b****.

  • marbee

    Seems someone is forgetting that the employees are themselves, drum roll please, CAPITALISTS!

  • Skuter

    Apples vs Oranges…I love WinCo, but, it only competes with WalMart on groceries.

  • Farley Bill

    hope they come to canada soon

  • Guest

    @Pipercat — re: One down…

    One *what*?

  • Paul R. Jones

    Stay out of VA. This is a right to work state- anti union, anti everything exept making more money for the rich. Even small business owners are struggling to make it work. This state loves to bull doze unions.

    • Michael Siever

      Um, you just described Texas to a T. If Texas can get these stores, than Virginia is fair game, too, especially now that they have a new Democratic Governor and Lt. Governor.

      • Paul R. Jones

        Good luck. We are a 49er or 29er type of employee here. I lost my job last year because the owner cut back to under 50 employees. I would have worked 29 hours a week, but since we all worked 50 hours for a 40 hour check with no OT, that was not a option. I have been told by the VEC that employers have freedom to do just about anything as long as no union is involved.

    • Haight

      The company is based out of Boise Idaho, and Idaho is sadly one of the first right to work anti union states, yet it has thrived here. They haven’t had a lot of union demands from their employees because they already pay themselves union wages and benefits. I have a relative who started as a stock boy there and after college was moved to their IT dept., he was recently offered a job with the FBI and turned it down because his benefits and retirement are better at Winco.

  • http://instantonbooks.wordpress.com/ Stephan Miller

    Living in McMinnville, Oregon we have Winco and WalMart right next door to each other. I often find the Winco parking lot to be fuller than WalMart. It’s great because we can hit both in one trip and only have to park once! BTW, Winco is the best grocery store by far. The low prices do not translate to poor quality, poor service or dirty store. Winco is bright, clean and friendly. The prices absolutely cannot be beat! We went and did our normal weekly shopping right before Thanksgiving and they handed us a free Jenni-O 22lb turkey! Winco rocks hard!

  • TL

    “…Texas and Arizona now have an employee owned and operated *gasp* “socialist” company…”

    If people more often were referring to democratic self-management of our workplaces and local institutions, and property norms based on occupancy and use when they were talking about Socialism, instead of Socialism as a catch-all word for whatever economic policy State political leadership initiates, then perhaps then there would be a Socialist movement in this country.

  • clinton notestine

    problem is winco stuff besides the prepackages kind from another manufacturer are crap… their produce goes bad before you even get home.

    • Haight

      Winco has a far superior produce dept. to Walmarts, their bakery and meat departments are also better. The selection is better and the products are fresher and frequently better priced. I will no longer buy produce from Walmart after trying Winco.

  • Ryan Matthew

    Costco/Winco have half as many employees per square footage of store as Wal-Mart does. Their profit per employee is 43% more than Wal-Mart, which isn’t surprising that they can “afford” to pay their employees more. If you increased Wal-Mart worker’s wages to Costco wages, the company would go in the negative. A mere $3/hour increase for every employee would result in the company going into the negative. This isn’t rocket science. “At least” Wal-Mart employs more people per store than Costco/Winco does. So while it’s nice to hear they pay good wages, Wal-Mart has created many more jobs and is known for hiring the elderly and disabled. Stop demonizing them because you’re too stupid to understand simple math and economics.

    • janierock

      You were rocking along, attempting to make a good point until you called the author stupid. I’m not sure which Walmarts you’re shopping in, but the our local Walmarts seem to have a skeleton crew. Shelves going unstocked and the racks messy and disorganized. I tried to buy a bike for my daughter last summer and sat in the toys waiting for help for 30 minutes before we finally just left and went to Toys r Us. When I go to Costco, there’s an employee every 5 ft. stocking shelves, offering samples, ready to help lug a load. They even draw my daughter a cute little picture on our recepit on the way out the door. Walmart keeps their stores purposefully understaffed to inflate profits. Your point was not only negated but also just plain untrue.

      • Ryan Matthew

        Anecdotal tails of your local Wal-Mart and Costco don’t “negate” my statistical facts. Wal-Mart has 330 square feet per employee and Costco has almost double at 600 which makes the “purposely understaffed” claim factually disproved. Costco is a specialty retailer who caters to a more affluent demographic, Top notch customer service is part of Costco’s business model. If you want top notch service from Wal-Mart they’d have to pay higher wages. I already explained why that wouldn’t make sense. Again, comparing apples to oranges.

      • janierock

        I’m sorry, you’re going to have to tangle with someone else when it comes to facts. Walmart doesn’t even staff their stores well enough for basic functionality, let alone exemplary customer service. This is a documented problem nationwide, covered widely in the media. I posted a link, but it may get moderated. Google “Walmart understaffed” and read the extensive media coverage on this matter from the past couple of years.

      • ShadowHawk

        Yea, 17 days and the sheep has nothing.

      • janierock

        By the way, using the barking points the conservative media overlords gave you when the President wanted to act raise minimum wage and used Costco as an example makes you look like a sheep. Perhaps calling others stupid isn’t your strongest choice.

      • artisanr

        Costco absolutely DOES NOT cater solely to rich people. That’s just right wing anti-worker BS to spread around. I’m a member, regularly shop there and the deals they have on things we use every day are worth many times over that fee to get in the door and the hour drive to get there on the pittance i make.

    • artisanr

      many slaves are always cheaper than a few respected employees that are treated as directly responsible for any profit a company might make.

  • T Cheryl McComb

    Please come to VA…Wally world needs the competition….and I need a job…LOL

  • John In Denver

    “Socialist” company? You mean they turn over their profits for the state to redistribute? I think not. It sounds like the spend their hard earned money on themselves through salaries and pensions. That is not socialism – that is capitalism. This capitalism at it’s finest. Owners of a company working hard, creating value, and enjoying the fruits of their labor.

    • T’omm J’Onzz

      if you’re talking to someone who puts up air-quotes when saying a particular word, what does that say to you?

  • Bradford

    I have been loving Winco out here in Portland, OR. I didn’t know they treated their employees so well. That explains the cheery nature of the checkout lady I always see when I show up at 2am.

  • Voter 636

    Bring one to Columbia SC,, Killian Road is RIPE for it, Costco screwed up a land deal and will not be coming and Killian is Perfect !!!

  • Mary

    As soon as they are in my state they will get ALL MY BUSINESS……PERIOD!
    I LOVE IT!
    Kudos to this company!

  • Bascoda

    Been shopping at WinCo and Costco for years. I’m fortunate to have a WinCo within walking distance, and a Costco a 5-minute drive away. Life is good. There’s a Wal-Mart here too, with a Target right across the street from it; they suffer badly by comparison.

  • Donald Hyatt

    Please come to Ohio

    • kissyface

      yes, i would love to see these stores in Ohio

    • Bonny

      Yes Ohio needs you I will not and do not shop at Walmart or Sams Club anymore

  • Lainy

    Wish they would come to Michigan! This is what we need companies owned and run by employees. No Stockholders and I think this idea is going to catch on all over the USA!

  • artisanr

    PLEASE let Costco or WinCo (of which i have never heard until now) come to the Poconos in Pennsylvania! I am a happy Costco member and I gladly drive over an hour to get there! We need good businesspeople here, too!

  • Michael Varian Daly

    We love WinCo.

  • Micaylah

    I dont shop at Walmart. It’s a creepy store with a pondscum undertone.

    But my Mother shops there. PLEASE WinCo, come to Canada and put The Big Blue Meanie out of commission. It would be easy here.


  • Gloria Reiss

    they need to come and open stores in western ND, there is a huge need out there for more and less Walmart for sure

  • John

    To put it in a word, bullshit. I have a friend who cashiered there. they were kept at 24 hours a week, to avoid paying benefits. He was told he would get full time-ish hours and benefits after 3-4 YEARS there. They might be better than Wally-world, but they’re no Costco, let alone a worker’s paradise. Just my opinion, of course.

    • BroncoBro

      And evidently an uninformed opinion, too. They don’t make great wages per hou, but they usually get close to 40 how and rthe benefits are excellent.

  • Jerriann Massey

    employee owned and run is entrepreneurial. Not socialist. Divisive rhetoric

  • Nani Lawrence Weasley

    Could you open a CostCo or WinCo in New Mexico? K thanks.

  • Anne E Malcolm

    Come to Middletown, CT! We don’t have a big store.

  • Linda Lippincott

    I am so glad to hear about a new store coming to Texas area. I want become with disappointed in Walmart and has wished for years that a new store comes into our area. A great spot in Garland, Tx would be George Bush Tollway (190) and Garland Road area.. Many news stores and restaurants. I do hope that you do come soon to our area.

  • BroncoBro

    The irony is they are based in one of the reddest of red states, Idaho.

    • Haight

      Yes and a right to work state since the 80s, and yet they thrive here by putting the employees and customers first.

  • Juan Valdez

    Please come to San Antonio and break up the near-monopoly HEB has

  • donnamae

    I’ve shopped at Walmart once in the past 5 years. Old Walt would roll in his grave if he saw what his company turned into.

  • Aanna1123

    Please bring them to Michigan!

  • Ethan

    Let’s not forget that WinCo started and is based in a state that’s more conservative than Texas and Arizona and it’s already had massive success there.

  • LSKKMa

    Winco please come to NY

  • Stryder51

    Just curious. Will you hate WInCo when they start putting local companies out of business, too?

  • Anotherfamily

    here in SE Wisconsin we have a similar employee owned market chain called Woodmans…I’ve asked employees how they are treated, they agree that for retail work, it is very good. They have prices that are often better than walmart and way more variety than walmart. You can actually buy organic produce there and not go broke doing so. One of the things they’ve done correctly is no credit cards, only cash, debit or local checks…those merchant fees that credit cards charge the merchant to accept your card are passed right on to the customer!

  • Latman

    Ironically, in Duncanville they are moving into the building that Walmart left. I am very excited to contribute as a customer to a company that seemingly genuinly cares about the welfare of its employees. I will have questions directly for these employees as to the validity of these claims.

  • http://diegueno.tumblr.com/ diegueno

    come on down to San Diego

  • JW

    Please hurry with the Duncanville store!!!

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  • FreedomWitnesser

    Meh, I shop local and farmer’s market. No chain store crap for me, employee owned or not.

  • mobilemann

    what the fucking fuck? please expand. so very awesome.

  • Kelly Garcia

    We have a WinCo here in our area, (Coachella Valley- CA) and although the prices are low on groceries they do not sell the majority of the products that they offer at Wal-Mart, shirts, shoes, underwear, etc…. I really avoid shopping at Wal-Mart, but as the mom of a large family (6 kids, 2 parents) you are not really offered many options. 8 people use a LOT of socks and underwear. The next best option is Kmart and they have approximately half of the selection, or go to a department store and pay twice as much….. I don’t want to support a business that keeps its workers in poverty level income ranges, but we are basically there ourselves with 2 full time jobs and so you make the hard choice.

  • Shawn

    This is not socialist. This is just another capitalist model. That is the whole point of capitalism. It allows the freedom for people to come up with a better model. To compete in the market place to see which model is better.

    Socialism does not allow that. Socialism is a top down, do as we say or die system. Socialism requires victims. It cannot stand freedom. It cannot abide competition. Competition and freedom destroy socialism because its victims will use their freedom to move to the competition.

    Capitalism allows you to vote for your preferences with every purchase. It allows you to come up with an idea and let others vote for you with their purchases. Capitalism rewards good work, good products and good service. Capitalism can allow a peacefully socialist community within it ranks. One where everyone pools their resources voluntarily. Capitalism cannot abide force or fraud. That destroys capitalism.

    Socialism might allow you to vote for some lying POS who then sells out to monied interests, writing legislation to put an end to upstart competition. Or he could, at any time, decide he wants to be the next dictator and allow no more voting, no more competition for his job. That is socialism.

    Socialism is about force. Capitalism is about freedom. It really is that simple.

    This company is using some of the small amount of freedom we have left to try something different. More power to them. More freedom to them. More capitalism to them. Go vote for them.

    • Brian

      You don’t know anything about socialism, capitalism, democracy, or authoritarianism. You’re just making everything you say up as you go along.

      • ShadowHawk

        As I was reading his bullshit I was thinking the same thing.

  • Steve Norman

    not sure if I am missing sarcasm, but a company isn’t socialist. This is the sort of thing that the sincere right wingers are on about (as opposed to the tin foil hat nut jobs etc). open your own companies as a collection of equals and get away from the feudalism. Ooooooh Look Dennis, there is some lovely muck over here!!!!!

  • Mitchell Gray

    *GASP* there’s nothing socialist about it!

  • Brandon

    If you can get to Texas, please come to Alabama. I’m sick of seeing Wal-Marts on every corner.

  • Bonita

    I don’t understand how WinCo and Walmart are comparable in the products they sell. Walmart sells primarily clothing as such, while WinCo is a grocery store. We have a WinCo that I shop at at least once a week. Does WinCos in other places sell clothing? What am I missing?

  • Dennis Carr

    OK, I got the car packed in record time.. Just got to wait for the next snow storm to pass and away I go…

  • TracyG

    I’ve seen the WinCo location in Ft Worth! It’s next door to a couple of really nice looking Section 8 housing apartments. This is such great news for the neighborhood! I’m thrilled you put out an article on this, I was wondering about the company.

  • Bob Muenchausen

    I use WalMart simply because I live in Rural America, and if there were as many Wincos placed as broadly as there are Walmarts, I sure as hell wouldn’t go to Walmart. I traded with Winco in Boise, ID for almost 30 yrs and they are one helluva good retailer, and provide a glaring counterpoint to more conservatively oriented marketers like Albertson’s, also from Boise, in a state not noted for being particularly employee friendly. As right to work states go, Idaho ignores more than it helps. Profit is important in all marketing, but what you do with it says more about your corporate values.

  • Michael Reed

    We need one here in North Austin/Round Rock area…I’d shop there in an instant over Wal-mart.

  • therain

    I am all for the free market determining the winners and losers, and if you structure your company to be employee owned, good for whatever works for you and your employees.

    I’m not sure the gal who write this understand what socialist means, and she certainly doesn’t know anything about business.

    Many companies have an ESOP, including many evil ones you lefties hate. It wasn’t invented by some obama liberal. Nope, purely a capitalist thing.

    Let’s hear about their executive leadership. I doubt the bulk of the employees steer the company. As shown with obama, no leadership or business experience leads to a trainwreck.

  • openlyblack

    WinCo and Costco only.

  • Steveograph

    What’s better, getting compensated for working all day in someone else’s yard to make it pretty? Or, working in your own yard all day, and getting to look out at your the pretty yard you created, every day there after? That’s called reaping dividends. Imagine growing up in a world where when you work harder, you earn more, where you truly reap the fruit of your labor? I know there are jobs like that, but can you imagine what a difference in society, in how people approach school if they knew what they were learning actually mattered?

    Employee owned companies are the single best idea I’ve heard for moving money and power back to the middle class. My observation is that we currently fight for hundreds of reforms to manage the problems created by and protected by the density of power large corporations have in the United States. If you are uncertain about the problem, do some homework on the history of corporate personhood. Anyway, my tentative position is that a critical mass of employee owned businesses would accomplish what corporate reforms, wealth redistribution and regulations cannot because in and of itself, it can’t be stopped by lobbying against it, and, as a strategy for the redistribution of wealth, it’s not parasitic, only generative. It does require human beings to use reason and might actually create an application for all this education we are supposedly getting, but it is in no way plagued by the problems of unions, or socialism and it gets way better result. Like I said, it’s not parasitic, it’s not going to tax existing businesses, or destabilize them.

    To achieve such an idea, I believe a multi-pronged movement that is cultural, political, and educational is the thing. The first thing is really to popularize the idea to the public. People need to know that this isn’t some leftwing fringe fantasy, but a realistic, patriotic, capitalistic opportunity. Ethical owners often want to sell their shop to the “right” new owner because they want their employees to be taken care of. This often doesn’t work out after the sale. These people need to be touched by the idea that selling it to the employees is a economical, legal, ethical, and patriotic option. The second prong might be the political and legal piece. It idea is to make it legally and financially easy for business owners to choose to sell to employees, if that is what they want to do. It’s not for everyone, and maybe some tax incentives (the political prong) would make it easier for the owner to decide something in line with their values. The third prong is educational. If more people are running their businesses, then more people need to be able to think like business owners. That takes moderate schooling. to slowly sell and will their holdings to their employees over the next 100 years. Not everything, my initial guess is maybe a ballpark 15% – 30% of all corporations as a goal, we talking over the next 100 years.

  • Matthew Reece

    “There is only one boss: the customer. And he can fire everybody in the company from the chairman on down, simply by spending his money somewhere else.” -Sam Walton, Wal-Mart founder

  • Farleyagain

    Employee owned is not socialism. Socialism is Government owned businesses. Employee owned is capitalism at work. Go WinCo. Go Red States!

  • Clayton Gunn

    Winco is , very soon, going to eliminate it’s employee stock option plan and phase everyone into a 401 K. They “owner/employees” didn’t get to “vote” on this either. They have sick leave but it all runs on a point system. If one goes out sick, or even has a heart attack while working, they’re docked a number or points. Accumulate enough points and you’re on a week off without pay. Employee owned should mean they’re like a corporation/non-public. You’re right Manny, it is more like a socialist store than we know. The rank-and-file workers have no say in company policy or logistics. They still allow, at most Wincos, dogs into the store, regardless of service animal status. I’ve watched a dog defecate on Winco’s floor, another pass stool through a shopping cart, all in the name of profit. Someone at Winco is making huge bank and not sharing like a good socialist.

    • ATadLate

      Is your last name “Gunn”, or is it really Walton?

    • Haight

      There is not one of your so-called facts that is actually true.

  • LarsAndTheRealGirl2

    I’m IN!

  • barada

    Come to California, WinCo!
    Down with walmart!!

  • barada

    Pray to God for Walmart’s bankruptcy.

  • acmavm

    Surely there will be no Republican or Teahaddist shopping there, right? I mean, they would never betray and deny every greedy thing they stand for just to save a few bucks now, would they?

    Of course they would.

  • Me

    The Mississippi river is crossable very easily now. How about heading east?Walmart thinks they can do anything to anybody and I for one am sick and tired of their garbage. They aren’t handicap friendly either. They built a super walmart just 6 miles from me and even with the parking lot very full most days they only had 6 electric scooters. Then in june of last year the store manager finally got them to replace 4 of them because they can’t get parts. Now the other 2 are history and the manager finally told me on Saturday that there are 4 more supposedly coming soon. He told me tat in November and December. I finally started shopping else where. Why waste my gas money getting into the parking lot and finally finding a parking spot only to find out once inside all the scooters are in use. Due to a lack of these electric scooters there has been a drop in revenue at this store. Many walk in and walk back out and others have started doing what I do. I only go to walmart when my legs will let me push a baskart to get one or 2 items that other stores don’t have.

  • JNola

    I remember a Walmart tv commercial when I was a 14 year old kid… huge 14 wheeler delivery truck rolling into a town with the words ”Made in America, for Americans. We take pride in giving back to our communities”. This is not a dream I had,, it’s was real. And I was excited about because I was bored with the shops in my town and believed the ad that said they gave back to the community. I’m 50 years old now and wish I knew then what I know now. If a company uses the words ”America” in any way,, if a company uses the word ”Patriot” in any way,,, IF a company has the brass balls to use Native American imagery in ANY way,, and even if a company uses the word ”family” in any way,, ya better spend your hard earned dollars at your local provider. These companies do NOT serve the American people. These companies do NOT respect cultures or communities. These companies do NOT support family values unless those values match their greedy pseudo christian beliefs. America and it’s people have been hijacked, even brain raped, into submission and slave-like servitude…The rest of the world is watching, people! I’m ashamed. I shopped Walmart, a lot. I’m ashamed every day when I’m asked about American businesses and the government that allows these things to happen. I left the States over 4 years ago when I couldn’t stand the rot eating our government… the rot eating our health care. I live in Wales now but the smell of the rot of American corporations has clung to me like the stink of burnt microwave popcorn. People smell it and assume that I caused it instead of thinking that I innocently walked thru the room after some asshole did the burning. Yet, I’m ashamed. And I know I’m not the only one.

  • Kari Hope

    We have a WinCo in Las Vegas and I do all my grocery shopping there. I love it!!

  • Jo Aelfwine

    Just wait until the heirs take over. That will be the true test. In the meantime, WinCo can you come to Laramie, Wyoming please?

  • Robert Bob Flesher

    any plans for stores in Ohio?

  • D Gamin

    The odd thing about Texas is it seems that people here like to know that Walmart workers are low-paid. It’s as if it makes the rest of us feel superior. I bet if the prices were the same between a new store and Walmart, they’d still choose Walmart, just to be sure the lower-income people stayed in their place.

  • rustypatina

    Please come to north Georgia.

  • heatherjoyw

    My first experience with Winco was bad i had it my head that it was tacky and bady maintained and only had cheap products and was placed in bad neighborhoods.My first Winco experience was in Stockton Ca I still shopped there despite of this because of how they treated their employees, I never bought meat or produce in the Stockton store. I now live in Reno and Winco is the only place I grocery shop. It’s an amazing store that is well kept and on par with Costco and the high end local grocery stores!

  • Astute Observer

    I tried shopping at WinCo – wasn’t impressed with the product quality, I refuse to shop WalMart either – Then at the checkout I realized most of the customers (not all) were buying with Food Stamps (SAP) cards – so basically the tax payer is subsidizing them to a large degree. I prefer buying local products whenever possible, refuse to consume GM products and absolutely refuse to purchase anything produced in China.
    Free markets and Capitalism is what provides tax revenue – when it is inhibited/restricted where will you go for the “freebies”. Progressive Liberals, socialists – good luck on that score!

  • Donna Ellery

    We most likely could not hope for one here in Vermont or at the very least, New Hampshire?

  • eva willis

    please bring winco to indiana

  • Citizen Jay

    I like this idea. I like it a lot. Please come to Colorado, WinCo!

  • Park

    You really have to love this… A Retail Store that Effectively “Screws” Politicians. ~~~ The Extreme Right Wingers Hate it because the common man gets ahead and the “Fat-Cats” aren’t riding the “Little-Guy” all the way to the Bank. ~ The Extreme Left Wingers Hate it because the Employees are the ones who receive BOTH the Benefits and the Profits, which means that in order to get Benefits and Money… the recipient actually “WORKS”. ******* FINALLY; We can go into a store where there is NO CHANCE of the place supporting BUSH or OBAMA… I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Kathy Mayo

    Winco needs to come & set up shop in Mi.

  • Carmen

    We need one in Kissimmee, FL. A lot of tourist due to the attractions in this area.

  • Tim

    Sorry all but they just opened here in Coeur d alene ID and starting wage is $8.55 /hr

  • Michelle Wadley

    Bring them to NC. I would definantly go there.

  • Gr82bme

    Socialist? I do not agree with that statement — it’s just another stupid LABEL. HOWEVER, if by socialist the author means the employees make a living wage, with “affordable” benefits and non government intervention –and we get quality food and service. I’ll take it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But, I’m still not interested in Texas turning blue. THANK YOU.

  • Linda Ramsey

    Love Winco but we have to go 30 miles to shop there in Medford Or. so can’t do as much as we would like.

  • Roger Ramsey

    My wife and I like to shop at Winco! We would shop there 2 or 3 times a week, if we had one in Grants Pass, Oregon. It is a 30 minute drive to Medford and the nearest Winco, so we only shop there about once a month.

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  • RonTakeOne

    So funny to see progressives singing the praises of a company like WinCo which voluntarily cares for its employees and ends up becoming competitive with a company like Walmart who wants to raise the minimum wage to take out its smaller competitors.

  • Dzz Dee

    I don’t have to worry about making a choice, Walmart is cross country so I can find a restaurant/restroom/accessories every 50 miles on the road trip. 24 hr/7 days a week and most holiday’s. That’s consumers security!

  • Robert Ontiveros

    Got one here in Chico, Ca.
    And one in my hometown Marysville, Ca.

  • carol

    Bring one to southern ct. We need competition for wal-mart.

  • Michael Mills

    Could someone please educate those of us who have spent most of our lives in business please exactly how an “employee owned for profit company” is in ANY way in the same ballpark with “Socialism”??? I’ve had the privilege of working for an employee owned company and can assure you that they were just as profit driven as any company I’d ever worked for. If anything this is capitalism at its best.

  • rschiel50

    Come to central New Jersey-PLEASE!!!

  • Lori Perez

    Winco beats Walmart and Stater Bros. I love Winco!

  • ken and patti bethany

    I live in Brookings Oregon, We had Shop Smart store that closed down. We as a community would more than Welcome Winco store in our town..Please come be part of us..You would not be sorry!!!

  • longun45

    I was not impressed with Winco, and the lettuce was really bad.

  • Sheila Combs

    Is there one close to Ottawa, Il?

  • baergy

    All the makings of a Ponzi Scheme!!! The company is ‘investing’ over $600,000 a month in pension funds that have made over 400 owner employees Millionaires??

  • Dead Kennedy

    A great thing about this concept is that it eliminates the need for corrupt unions.

  • Steven Howard

    Employee owner is a good thing. I was in management at ups. Its a great incentive. But all this hatred for Walmart is so misguided. Walmart is no different than any publicly traded company.

  • https://sites.google.com/site/sanguinesilverphotography/ Jason A. McPeak

    HEB used to be good, then they tried to turn in the next RANDALS, no their prices are ridiculous. I go to ALDI whenever possible. I’d love for a WINCO to open south of Houston, TX.

  • Paula

    We need a WinCo in Knoxville, TN PLEASE!

  • Marjorie A. Hall

    Bring’em to Tulsa!! There’ll be CHEERS ALL AROUND!!! WE ARE WAITING! Let’s name Hellmart for exactly what it is!!

  • frondcat

    I’d like to know more. For instance, is the food cheaper because they’re not paying fat salaries to the CEOS, or is it because farm workers are being exploited? Do they sell American made merchandise, or stuff made overseas under less than human conditions? Do they compost/donate/recycle, or just just throw waste into the trash?

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  • bhdawg

    I will like you , only when you open in Memphis, the Cordova area



  • Lorna Lingel

    I would love to see these stores in Missouri! I used to work for Walmart and was forced out of the company. I would love to work for this type of company!!!!

  • Nimue1

    I’d like to hear more about their eco-friendliness. I hope they include local sourced foods.

  • Sheryl L

    Come to MISSOURI!! We’ve been taken over by Wal-FART!!

  • Kari

    i wish they’d open one here in new england, i would sign up in a heartbeat. all the jobs here pay like crap and treat you worse than crap.

  • Vikodlak

    I’m not sure you can com pair an 86 store chain that only sells groceries with an 11,000 + store chain that sells everything under the sun. $11 an hour is not much either for a grocery employee. Checkers at other grocery stores make more than that.

    WinCo has a great business model, but take down Walmart? Not without changing that model.

  • Dan Johnson

    When are they coming to North Central Florida? Wal-Mart needs some real competition and the citizens could use a job that pays real wages not just chump change.

  • Avon Bellamy Sr.

    I will beg them to open a couple of stores in Baltimore. I will gladly shop there.

  • JD Whited

    A privately-owned company that manages to provide adequate health care, pensions, and a living wage without the force of government? That’s not Liberal or Socialist or anything like that. That’s textbook Libertarianism.

  • ColoradoCoach

    Just to clarify, you are supporting the market dictate what is right? I’m all in favor, but it seems contrary to most of what you publish. Letting true capitalism run its course is more of a conservative belief, isn’t it?

  • bobbeecher

    Put one in Los Angeles’s San Fernando Valley and I’M THERE!

  • Sunshine Treasure

    when are they coming to Florida?

  • silver

    Winco has slashed my grocery bill and their produce is awesome. I eat a lot better now. I shop here every time if I can. Great specials on holidays too. I just saw the brand new one in Gilbert Arizona. I think they are a spin off of former Walmart employees. Highly, highly recommend!!

  • Veronica Boyette

    I’d love to see this company go nationwide!

  • Chloe1966

    Please come to Canada!!!!!

  • synodie

    Winco, I’m in southern louisiana. Please come here I hate wal mart. Employees at wal mart are rude to customers.

  • ProudTexan

    LOL, it’s not socialist if it’s employee owned. It just means that the owners have jobs there! This is a PERFECT example of capitalism! People coming together to provide a superior product and let the general public determine it’s fate. Socialism is when the government passes law forcing you to buy their product regardless of quality or value.

    • Mike Turner

      I agree, the left have no idea regarding the basics of a capitalistic economy and often confuse it with corporatism. ironically, they endorse and support half the things they complain about!

  • Lynda

    Come to Pennsylvania!!!!!

  • Vicky Krupnik

    I would welcome either one, Winco or Costco to our area in the North East!!!
    Wal-Mart is totally out of controll, employees also have to apply for government assistance to make it, well after working for one of Walmarts competitor, Kroger for 15 yrs, you might be suprised to find out that probably 75-80% of Kroger employees are also depending on government assistance!!!! The only people making any money is the COMPANY PEOPLE…
    Some Management, then your Corporate Employees!!!!! They are the ones, you know the pencil pushing know-it-alls!!!!

  • Lorine Schocknmyer

    I don’t know why you think this is socialism. It absolutely is not. These employee/owners work for their money and how hard they work and the quality of work they do nets them a financial reward. If they do a bad job they get fired.
    Socialism pays everyone the same no matter how hard they work (or don’t work.)
    This is capitalism at it’s finest!

  • Guest

    Contrary to the spin given to it here, this is in no way an example of socialism – coerced collectivism – at work. It is however a brilliant example of anarchism – voluntary cooperation – at work.

  • Sonja Kelley

    When can we expect to have a store in Tampa, Florida

  • Jason Carpp

    I’ve never heard of WinCo. If their benefits and services are as good as they say it is, I’d like to see it here in Washington state. That’d give Wal-Mart a run for its money.

  • CDR

    But they do not accept credit cards

  • Cassandra

    Build one of your stores in Valdosta, GA and put Wal-Mart out of business. Wal-Mart has gone down hill since Mr. Walton died. Thanks and God bless you. :) <3

  • Michael Guay

    Only two stores and 3on the way…not even close. 1 they will expand slowly with that business model. Doesn’t have 1000’s of stores with big distribution centers that have to pay for those employees. Walmart has 1000’s of investors including 401k investments. Nice idea but it’s like comparing apples to oranges. It will take decades unless you get investors and then you will probably end up like Walmart.

  • Joseph Smith

    They used to be called Cub Foods years ago, but changed their name with the first letters of the five sates they were in at the time. Locally I think we have 3 in my hometown, and hands-down they have the best bottom line at the checkout. Not a small place either like a dollar-store grocer, it’s huge.

  • Marvin Knoll

    Nothing new here, there have been several of these types of stores over the years. There used to be a Food Warehouse in Garden City Kansas, it looked JUST like the picture,or Super Saver in Grand Island Nebraska. Just as cheap or cheaper than Wal Mart and Wal Mart is still there, and other businesses are still losing to Wal Mart. For MOST it’s about the convenience and most don’t care about anything other than cheap and easy. For me ANYTHING that openly promotes it’s self as “progressive” or “Liberal” can kiss my ass simply because time and time again it get proven that progressive/liberal equates to EPIC stupidity/fail/hypocrisy.

  • S

    sure would like to see Winco or Costco in Arkansas. Walmart monopoly here

  • Poetre

    When WinCo gets to Ohio I’m all in. Costco doesn’t give the same benefits to workers Nation wide, I found out.

  • Shaun Texas

    I’m looking forward to visiting one of these, but this is not socialist. It’s still capitalism and entrepreneurial, just like how nearly all companies start (excluding not for profit of courses). It is however, not like what we are used to with corporations purchasing politicians to push their own agendas.

  • Kim A.

    When we lived in Cali, 3 years ago, we had a winco. It was great for groceries, that is it. We still went to Walmart routinely. The only thing they had on Wally was fresh veggie prices, and those came from out side of the united states, Brazil mostly and of course Mexico. If you like bagging your own groceries, which is part of the money savings part, it’s great. Like I said, great fresh veggies, but prices on everything else.. Well it’s not going to put Wally out of business. Not to mention, if you were hoping for goods from the U.S., nope still not going to get it from them either. I’m still trying to figure out the hate for Wally, they provide jobs. The ones I see whine the most are union thugs, simply because they can’t bully them.

  • Hannah

    We want one in Fort Oglethorpe GA!!!

  • GOPdiva

    Houston is waiting for a Win Co.

  • Bill B.

    Any plans of opening any WinCo stores in Canada?

  • Dick

    Isn’t this the original Idea that Wal=Mart started out with when Sam was alive?

  • Turbo

    How does being Employee owned, having a pension plan and medical benefits make them a socialist company? Likewise how is providing Walmart/name your big box store with price competition in any way not Capitalist in the truest sense? You need to go back to your Marx/Engels/Lenin. I truly hope they succeed as I do any business that offers a better product or service at a price that is affordable. Who wouldn’t? Not something you generally find in a socialist environment.

  • Whats Left

    come to Florida!!!

  • Max Cruz

    They need to put one here in Oklahoma City. Talk about giving Walmart a run for there money.


    Rather than complain about Walmart – walmart workers should quit their job and work here instead. This thing we have called the “free (kind of) market” can present some pretty nice opportunities to you.

    I personally would love to see Walmart get owned by a competitor in this fashion.

  • layla fake

    send one to wichita falls texas…………

  • Debbie Redington

    Where ion Texas? HEB has cornered the market and even walmart isn’t able to compete with HEB in the grocery department.

  • Joshua

    being what exactly? WinCo employs less people and are only in a few
    states compared to Wal-Mart. Good on WinCo and all, but I’d like to see
    if they could keep those lower prices and pay their employees that much
    if they were on equal footing as Wal-Mart. Compare WinCo’s 15,000 employees to Wal-Mart’s 2.2 employees world wide.

  • Tracy Bowser Wester

    wish we had a Winco or Costco here in NC i love going to Costco every time i go up north

  • djsmps

    Open a store or two in Wichita, KS .

  • fredschnaubelt

    Average wage at Wal-Mart for full time workers is $12.78 an hour. It may be true some part-time workers start at a “learning” wage in some states comparable to the federal minimum wage in their first year and there can be no doubt the senior citizen Wal-Mart greeters make less than brain surgeons. The primary beneficiaries of Wal-Mart are low-income and fixed-income shoppers. It is hard to understand why so many people are opposed to having affordable food and products available for low-income shoppers. Why do so many people hate the poor?

    • SophieCT

      Contorted thinking there.

  • mark

    Winco stands for Washington, Idaho, Nevada, Colorado, Oregon. This is their first locations and I shop there. Groceries at Walmart are too expensive.

  • Gladys Marie Wright

    i hope and pray that they expand to Illinois and Indiana cause i would be in line for a job that is for sure plus i would shop there to if they are so much cheaper than walmart

  • Thunder Mountain Arts

    hope they come to Oklahoma and Colorado soon

  • Aaron

    Canada welcomes unselfish entities that can have their cake and eat it to…. you have my business if ever you expand to Canada

  • Doug McGee

    I am from Boise. One reason they have such low prices is zero advertising. It is all word of mouth. With the store design being very basic they can offer great pricing. You will absolutely love this store. They are always getting job applicants from Walmart. Glad to see the free market thrive besides govt intervention.

  • Hayley Alyssa.

    Please come to Athens Alabama please please please!! Or even Hunstville Alabama! We need more companies like winco here. Walmart has taken over everything and they are pretty much the only place here to get groceries. And people around here are poor. We dot have a lot of money so we barely have any groceries because Walmart is so expensive. Id love it if winco came to somewhere close to here and it would help people get jobs because no one around here is hiring at all.

  • Dave

    Okay, some help with me here, where are they a “socialist” company as stated above. Idiotic statement. Also, how does a ESOP (employee stock ownership plan) equate to a “pension”? Two radically different things. Having said that, I hope another low cost supplier can give Walmart a run for their money. I wonder if they are putting the screws to their suppliers like Walmart. Must be or where are they controlling the costs to be able to offer prices lower than Walmart. Went down that road with Walmart in the past. They wanted to know EVERYTHING about our company to be to price our product/service to them. Our owner told them to take a hike and that we set our prices.

  • Wally

    Bring one to Virginia

  • Linda J Glick

    Yo People, the “Socialist” comment? Ummm, the author was being facetious…..!

  • Sandy Kuhn Nowak

    tell them to come to Wisconsin

  • James Worcester

    Bring one to Laurel or Hattiesburg, MS!

  • David Clayton

    Winco is SERIOUSLY NEEDED in GADSDEN, ALABAMA. Please! Please! Open a store here. We have several empty old FOOD WORLD/BRUNOS store buildings that have been abandoned. Food World was way too expensive for this area and Gadsden, AL is one of the poorest cities/towns in the nation. Walmart is ripping people off left and right here and claiming to be cheaper than anyone else.

  • David Gray

    The WinCo here in Las Vegas is a good store, but hardly a ‘great’ store. Better than Walmart? Maybe, but not enough so that I would drive across town. This points to WinCo’s inherent weakness. They’ve been in business since the 1960s, but have only managed expansion into 7 states, all contiguous except Texas, with a limited number of of stores in each of those states. By comparison, here in Las Vegas, there are 26 Walmart stores, including their neighborhood markets. When WinCo becomes more convenient, they will be more competitive…

  • Starr Johnson

    Bring a Winco to Tonopah, Nevada! I am tired of driving almost 500 miles to shop there!

  • Michael Nuckles

    MOVE TO MISSOURI!!!!! Lets see some open up around the KC area :)

  • Deirdra Johnson

    I would love to have a WinCo in Arkansas!

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  • Rod Haney

    Boycott Walmart, Always!

  • Mark McRoberts

    Winco and Costco Please come to central Missouri…..PLEASE!

  • KAT

    If they would just get more Organic stuff in their stores, I would always shop there. :(

  • daves

    There is a limit to how big a company like this can become, just by the simple nature of the supply chain. You will NOT be self sustaining and be able to do the right thing at the same time. Walmart the ” top dog”.. is falling apart in the North East, this co-op wouldn’t stand a chance in that business climate.

  • Erin Elizabeth

    PLEASE CAN WE GET ONE in Colorado Springs!?!?!?!? PLEEEEEEEASE!!!! we would welcome you with open arms! we hate walmart!

  • Juanito

    As an ex employee of one of there distribution centers , I have to say it all looks great on paper, but the day to day reality is different. I worked in an Union warehouse, but never did I see such an inept, weak Union. They keep inching there production higher and higher. There use of lumbers (contract workers who do there main job is to “lump” product off trailers and are paid far less) is questionable. The union just stands there, like they are powerless. It’s all doest smell right. My impression, the rule of making a profit was starting to overtake the idea of employee owned.

  • John1966

    Where’s the “socialism”? This is an example of thriving capitalism. If you’re talking about employee ownership, that’s capitalism. What makes it non-socialism is that it’s VOLUNTARY. Nobody’s forcing me to work there, or shop there. Unlike Obamacare, in which every citizen which is COERCED to participate. And of course the track record of the two stand in sharp contrast. Your rabid hatred of WalMart is blinding you to your own stupidity.

  • geez

    Now this is a store I could feel good about shopping at and would go out of my way to shop at.

  • Stephen Barlow

    THIS is what AMERICAN capitalism was MEANT to be. Not a Walmart/USS/ holding company kinda of profit monster.

  • Dan Senglaub

    Winco pays less than Walmart and more part timers. This article is so one sided and full of BS

  • Cait McKnelly

    “Because they’re not a publicly traded entity, they don’t have stockholders demanding ever larger returns on dividends every quarter at the the expense of both the consumer and the employees.”

    Actually, neither is Walmart for all intents and purposes. A very small amount of it’s stock is publicly traded but the vast majority is held by four members of the Walton family, every single one of whom is a multi-billionaire. Thus, the low wages, lack of insurance and retirement funds, the food stamps and Medicaid that Walmart employees qualify for; every bit of it is money in the pockets of four people who make up literally the richest family in the world.

  • kathryn Johnson

    Ok, I’m moving from CA to MD. They need to open one in or near Bel Air, MD!!!!!!

  • jmvks

    Please bring one to NE Ohio!!

  • 2Smart2bGOP

    We’ve had a Winco about twenty minutes away from me for over twenty years; love it. They have a huge bulk bin section (cereal, seeds/nuts, dried fruit, pasta, flour, sugar, candy, spices, etc., etc., etc.) and the rest of the store is pretty huge as well. Great store, great prices, great employees, open 24 hours and they are always busy. The only downside for some (at least at the store in our area) is that you have to bag your groceries yourself, but as far as I’m concerned, it’s a small price to pay for shopping at anywhere but Walmart. I do all my bulk shopping there.

  • Marlee Straup

    OMG, please come to Austin! I used to shop there when I lived in Oregon and I loved it!

  • ChicagoJohn

    So you hate big box stores because they put smaller stores out of business, and it makes it hard for small business owners to thrive.

    But you’re okay with big box stores as long as they strike you as… socialist.

    • Chris

      Not to mention all big box stores started out as mom and pop shops

      Walmart – five and dime and Ben Franklin

      Target: Dayton stores.

      Even both lowes and Home Depot started out as small town hardware stores

  • Bribri

    Hy-Vee food stores (based in west Des Moines Iowa) have been employee owned for decades…seems like winco latched on to this wonderful Midwestern ideas…there are currently 235 employee owned stores throughout the Midwest….this is not a novel idea, the west is just behind god’s country in helping people live decent lives.

  • Rob Wingett

    The company is employee owned (through an Employee Stock Ownership Program), but I don’t think it is employee “operated”, as the article claims. ESOPs seldom confer any management rights, with most maintaining a traditional management structure. While having an ESOP is nice, it’s not the same as being a worker co-op, which is what many people seem to assume it is.

    • Chris

      As a former winco employee you are right. Management still runs the place and the upper big wigs in Boise still control everything,

  • C. Lee

    How unintelligent is the “author”? Socialist is NOT employee owned, it’s government owned, like General Motors.
    WalMart may indeed get tax breaks to build in a town, they don’t get free land. Mater of fact they usually end up paying an option fee to the landowner(s) while they have to fight bogus lawsuit after lawsuit paid for by unions trying to stop them. One Walmart near we had to fight for 4 years with a $50k per option fee., they of course won , like they always do because the sneaky unions never have a valid suit.
    Good for Winco but by the way they are also a mega company putting local businesses out, but it’s ok because you think they are socialist…. idiots.

  • gendotte

    I have shopped at Same club for years, but recently I have totally abandoned them for Cosco

    • Cookiepress

      Where I used to live COSTCO was an hour away and Sam’s Club only 15 minutes. Now they are equidistant from my home and I will only shop at COSTO. In the past in Sam’s I have run into sarcastic uncaring employees. I have been shopping at COSTCO for 15 years now and only had that problem once.

      • Chris

        Costco has had the same general upper management since 1985. They have a new CEO,but if I recall he’s been with Costco since it first opened or back in the price club days (before the merger)

  • http://www.coffeecuptheology.wordpress.com/ Darryl Willis

    I welcome WinCo, but really? This is something unusual for Texas? Southwest Airlines anyone? “Socialism” has to do with government, not private enterprise. This isn’t a “socialist” company. It is a for-profit company that takes care of its employees and is owned by its employees.

    This is a ethical capitalism, not socialism. Capitalism without ethics, concern for employees, and morals is a horrible system. With these characteristics, capitalism is an effective system. Unmitigated greed is antithetical to ethical capitalism.

    Come on Winco! You’re welcomed in Texas by conservatives and progressives alike!

  • Guest

    I work for Winco and are benefits are awesome Health-insurance blue crosses and it paid for my open heart surgery all of it over $200,000 I worked for Walmart in the past and I hated it Winco has treated me with respect and I can’t wait to see what the future of the company holds

  • Bridget Dailey

    Come to UPSTATE NY

  • Stephen Horsfall

    The American Waitrose – my kind of socialism.

  • http://anthonyianozi.blogspot.com/ Anthony Ianozi

    I wouldn’t call employee-owned as being “socialist”, but I really like the idea of this store, and am looking forward to seeing it open around where I live. Can’t stand Walmart, it’s just all that I can afford right now.

    • Cookiepress

      Yeah, I don’t get that socialist remark either.

  • Jamie Stack-Hovey

    please bring to the midwest…….I depise Wal-Mart!!!!

  • Annette Collins

    So… when are they opening in central Florida? We desperately need the jobs here.. and most of us would LOVE to see Wal Mart go under since they have muscled all of our mom and pop grocers out of business.

  • Silkie

    Hopefully since Will come to SC soon

  • DublinIreland

    I don’t know why people hate Walmart and Target for putting little stores out of business. Hate the people who choose to shop at Walmart (I can’t stand Walmart personally, but not because it is big) and Target. We all loved our small town main streets but times and things change.

    • Chris

      Our walmart was placed in a small town back in 2010. The town has since gotten better. New street improvements and even a few new businesses opened.

      Only one closed. But that’s because the owner was stealing people’s credit and debit card numbers…. It wasn’t because walmart came in to town

  • dazzy

    There are only so many ‘good’ employees left in the country. By the 15,000 is pushing the limits of an employee owned/centered company. If they got even one quarter as big as Wal-Mart, the quality of employee would already be so abysmal the experiment would fail horribly.

  • Eroche

    I find it very interesting that people are so quick to persecute Walmart and the 2.2 million people that work for the company when they have never worked for or researched all the great things the company does around the world.

  • jules

    Winco and Costco are a block away from each other in our town. Very blessed. :)

  • momndelco

    wish we had one here in pa

  • Casey

    Will they also start having more than 3 employees on their registers at all times? I like shopping there but hate standing in long lines behind people who have overflowing carts.

    • jules

      Our winco will have up to 12 registers going at 1 time.

    • Chris

      Or when will winco start having employees who are not rude or look like they hate their job?

  • De Sharon

    Sounds like Winco should join the sunny state of California. We definitely could use a store like that here. Wishing them much success with expanding.

  • LadyC

    Can we get a Winco in Oakland, California? Just a thought!

  • Kelly Tracy

    Walmart lost us last Christmas when they had put out donation boxes for their customers to purchase and donate toys, foods etc for the Walmart employees for Christmas. We just went REALLY? They are billionaires and they want their customers to give to their employees because they pay them crap!!! Don’t think so!!

    • Chris

      That never happend at the walmart in my town

  • dDouglas Cole

    Come to Florida!

  • Zeyna

    I work for walmart. I earn well above what the average wage is in our small town. The offer great and affordable healthcare. Our small town was dying before Walmart came to town. Walmart donates to local charities and service organizations. Everyone loves to say negative things about Walmart but do any of you really know what it is like to work for the company. I love working for Walmart.

    • Chris

      Walmart is the same as any other multi billion dollar retailer.

  • Michelle Abrajano

    you got my vote, now put some in FL

  • PhilMils

    I remember when Walmart led people to believe that all their merchandise was made in the US. At this time, a little of their merchandise are made in the US, but more are now than when they implied they were.

    I’m in a small town with 3 Walmarts. Ugh! Bring in Winco!

    • Chris

      What about target? Or any other major retail store?they sell stuff made in china

  • Mike S

    Come to Kansas City! We will take you!!! *smile*

  • Sharianne Esposito Bragdon

    I shop at winco. The prices were a lot cheaper than Wal-Mart when they first opened. It is still somewhat cheaper. I heard winco paid $10.00 to$11.00 per hour so I asked several employees. They pay between $8.10 and $8.50 per hour just like Wal-Mart.


    Wow I have Never heard of Winco but if they have been around for 40 years and pay there Employees a handsome wage I’m all for it hopefully they can have a store in Indianapolis.

    • Chris

      They start off at minimum wage.

  • Dave

    Home Depot is becoming a company also starting not caring about their employees….. At least in the Cutler Ridge store in Florida….. Employees getting treated bad and talk down too on a daily basis…. A lot these retail stores really need to be fixed and stop taking advantage of their employees.

  • M.E.

    Though I live in north Texas, I will be boycotting WinCo foods (as well as Wal-Mart). WinCo is based in Idaho, a state notorious for exterminating it’s native wolf population. Earlier this year the ID Governor legislated funding for massive wolf slaughter. I boycott all Idaho businesses as an ethical stand on this issue.

    Americans have been taught (by Wal-Mart, et al) to demand cheap prices at any cost – to the environment, the plight of foreign workers and the destruction of US businesses. Yet another big discount chain selling more cheap crap that people really don’t need. Is this really ethical business?

  • shelley

    Would they put one in shamrock texas please

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  • Bluesyinohio

    Need more of these in Ohio, too.

  • JM

    FYI employee-owned is not socialist. Socialism is government owned means of production. Not sure why you have to politicize this when it’s perfectly compatible with capitalism.

  • werd

    How dumb. A business, by definition, can’t be “socialist.” Think the people at the top aren’t getting rich? Think again. Paying a higher wage and providing additional benefits doesn’t mean the store is a progressive haven of liberals who consider themselves business savvy, it is just a store getting better employees by paying them more. That is the most fundamental concept in capitalism and the free market.

  • AuntInAZ

    I recently applied to a new WinCo store opening a few miles away. With eleven years experience in the grocery industry, I am really hoping to hear from them.

  • Chris

    Not to mention all big box stores started out as mom and pop shops

    Walmart – five and dime and Ben Franklin

    Target: Dayton stores.

    Even both lowes and Home Depot started out as small town hardware stores


  • Shari D

    Though we live in a relatively small town with few shopping options, we have evaluated our needs vs wants, and how they relate to our local resources. We have managed to eliminate Hellmart from all regular shopping trips for groceries, HBA items, some small household items, and almost all prescriptions with exception of one. My husband needs to replace his work clothes occasionally, and if he can’t find anything appropriate at the Goodwill store, only then will he venture over to Hellmart. He had to do this last weekend, and said later when he got home, that he felt odd going back in there and annoyed at the rudeness of the customers intent on running each other down in their self-centered attempts to grab what they wanted before someone else could snatch it away. When he was done, which didn’t take any longer than absolutely necessary, he said getting out of there was the same as escaping a poisonous vapor cloud into fresh air. The whole atmosphere of the store has deteriorated significantly as the unadulterated Greed and selfcenteredness of the Walton conglomerate has continually increased. I won’t go in there at all if I don’t absolutely need to because I am disabled and need a powered cart to get around a store large enough to need its own zip code. Those are rarely available as half or more are always out of order, and the other half are taken up by folks who seem to view them as their own personal property as they sit in the middle of aisles having neighborhood reunions, ignoring the fact that they are in short supply while other people who need them are not.
    I will gladly pay a little extra for a few makeup and HBA items from my local grocery stores or pharmacy just to avoid going to Hellmart to save a couple of dollars at the expense of my blood pressure. While Winco sounds like a wonderful proposition, it’s likely a long time coming to the Midwest. The concept is fabulous, sensible, obviously workable and a long time coming to be the David that will take down the boorish giant that is Walmart.

  • Jim Barker

    Yeah. Most of we conservatives could care less if others choose to participate in some sort of socialist living or working arrangement. What we oppose is having socialism forced on us by our government. One is personal and voluntary, one is state and mandatory.

  • Jebus Jones

    The sad fact is 79% of walmart employees receive some form of government assistance. Talk about a great business model, get huge corporate subsidies, free land, and pass off the employee expenses to the tax payer; It’s a real win win. I chose Costco or my local owned over those pirates every time.

  • Scott Beers

    Not sure why they are a “socialist” company. Seems to me that they are the perfect picture of CAPITALISM! The ONLY real difference is they have REMOVED the GREEDY OUTSIDE STOCKHOLDERS! Since no mention is made, they may also NOT pay their Executives LUDICROUS sums of money.

  • Francesco M. DiGiovanni

    If it’s privately owned, then it isn’t a socialist entity, it’s a free market capitalist business entity. Employee owned is still privately owned.

  • dazzy

    Once again….Different market share, different customer base, different corporate structure.

    You all just need to face the fact that Wal-Mart isn’t going anywhere. The only competition they currently even have is Target. Big box and warehouse stores aren’t the same consumers.

  • Dora Anderson

    Come on down! Walmart is horrible to its employees, and I hope they do get a rude awakening!

  • lidove

    Please bring them to North Carolina, I do not like to shop wall-marts, Everyone around herewould shop Winco’s over wall-mart’s anyday!!

  • John Thornton

    Winco its in the name, get to the UK.

  • mick

    Corporations have stolen Government and become the real enemy of “the people” . TPPA will destry us all and turn us into corporate serfs … google TPPA if you don’t already know about it .

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  • kstagg

    McKinney, TX – Oh, yeah!

  • kstagg

    Are the stores as stocked as WalMart? Can you save as much as WalMart and/or CostCo? What is the selection like? Thanks!

  • Tammy Chance

    let it be known they don’t accept doctor’s notes if you are sick and if
    you need FMLA you don’t get paid till your back at work and you don’t
    qualify for flma according to them after 12 weeks. So think twice if you
    thinks its such a great job. My friend works at the one in Vancouver
    Washington. They are horrible to there employees.

  • margoharris

    I love WINCO and shop there all the time. They have a fabulous fresh fruit and vegetable section which has the lowest prices and good quality. I drive a little farther but it is worth it!!
    Do be prepared to bag your own groceries. I stock up when I go so it is a little more work but both the customer and employee wins the only losers are the greedy corporate executives that are not at the top of this employee owned company. They have signs all around the store comparing their prices for items with Wal-Mart and food 4 less.

  • Progressive Republican

    The only reason I’ve ever gone into a Wal-Mart is to take a dump. I figure that that’s what they’ve been doing to America since forever, so the least I can do is to return the favor, right?

  • Picked

    I enjoy shopping at Winco. After reading this, I like it better.

  • Libtardharvestor

    If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is .

  • Evelyn Johnson

    As usual, this is a simplistic view of the differences between the companies. There are many other components that go into a company’s business plan than just salary and benefits. Walmart is likely paying greater cost for overhead, they offer a huge product line not just groceries, they operate in states where operational costs and taxes on the business are higher and the new healthcare programs initiated by the federal government are driving up every employers costs. Also, articles critical of Walmart, including the posts of weird looking shoppers is all designed by union leaders (not union members) who are trying to attack Walmart. Seriously, in any state in the nation basically no one sees the supposed shoppers who look as weird as the photographers – it’s a smear campaign.

  • Helen

    That would be great but when you live in a small town and live an hour away from the big cities like Dallas or Fort Worth and the only grocery stores you have is Brookshire’s and Wal-mart then I would have to choice Wal-mart because they are cheaper than Brookshire’s.

  • Susann Rozell

    I hope they bring one to the Tyler or Athens, Tx. area’s.

  • Cheryl Harless

    I love Winco and shop there often. However, comparing them to Walmart is a bit silly. They are a food store. Walmart (except super stores; and then only in part) is not. Winco is a privately held (employee owned) company, where Walmart is a corporation.

    Could Walmart have made better choices? Clearly.

    Winco is an example of a company that is CURRENTLY making good choices. But, will they get too big and forget where they came from, like others have done before (Walmart, Home Depot for example)? Only time will tell.

  • JohnTheAcademic

    Employee owned and operated is not socialist, it is distributist. Socialist is state-ownership (which is rhetorically called “owned by the people”, but “the people” always means the state). Actual ownership by the people is distributism which is an alternative to both capitalism (a few rich people own) and socialism (only the state owns).