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Fact-check: Did Oklahoma Hwy Patrol Captain George Brown Blame Police Assaults On Victims?

Oklahoma Highway Patrol Captain George Brown. Image via news9.com

Oklahoma Highway Patrol Captain George Brown. Image via news9.com

Looks like it is time to do another fact check of an image that has been popping up around social media. This time, it’s on the subject of police officers. There’s an image that claims Oklahoma Highway Patrol Captain George Brown made the statement that if women didn’t want to be assaulted by police officers, they shouldn’t do things that would cause them to be pulled over in the first place.

Sounds pretty outrageous, right? After all, we just witnessed weeks of protests in Ferguson after an unarmed black teenager was shot by a white police officer and the absolutely horrendous handling of the incident by the local police department. In that case, and others, the victim of police brutality was blamed. So if the police chief in Ferguson could basically blame Michael Brown for his own death, it’s within the realm of possibilities that a police department could blame women for their own sexual assaults at the hands of cops.

Here’s a little background of the story in question: in Oklahoma, Tulsa County Deputy Gerald Nuckolls was arrested for assaulting at least two women. He confessed to the crime, lost his job, and went to jail. A Facebook page called Corrupt Frisco Texas Cops posted the following picture with a quote attributed to Oklahoma Highway Patrol Captain George Brown. At the time of publication, this image had been shared over 6,000 times.

Screenshot from the Facebook page "Corrupt Frisco Texas Cops."

Screenshot from the Facebook page “Corrupt Frisco Texas Cops.”

So, the question is did this high-ranking member of Oklahoma’s Highway Patrol blame the incidents on the women who were assaulted? Not really. Along with the image, the Facebook page also posted a YouTube video as evidence which was hosted on a channel called “Krupt Kopps” which only has this one video uploaded. The original video from KJRH can be found here. The image was also part of a story from a site called “Revolution-News.com,” which seems to be a left-leaning, Occupy-styled website.

Here’s the problem: the quote “then follow the law in the first place so you don’t get pulled over” comes from the newscaster at the end of the video, not the Highway Patrol captain. This quote pulls two parts of the entire news story together completely out of context. Captain George Brown’s appearance on the video tells people about what they should expect when dealing with law enforcement when pulled over and offers safety tips. However, the deputy who was arrested for assaulting women was responding to a call at a residence, not making a traffic stop. The “then follow the law in the first place so you don’t get pulled over” quote is also not only not uttered on the video by the officer, but it’s at the end of the video when the anchor is talking about traffic stops, and not directly in regards to the story about the accused deputy.

Obviously, as this story showed in reference to the deputy who is now in jail, there are bad cops out there. Many accounts of police brutality and corruption are indeed true, but let’s look at what’s really going on here. First of all, the page Corrupt Frisco Texas Cops isn’t in Oklahoma. So why would they be “reporting” the officer’s remarks which are taken completely out of context? Let’s look at the pages Corrupt Frisco Texas Cops lists as favorites. These pages include Cop Block which Allen Clifton exposed last month as being part of an anti-government propaganda machine. They also “like” a Cliven Bundy support page, a Libertarian PAC out of Utah,  Alex Jones from Infowars, Glenn Beck’s The Blaze page, just to name a few. See a pattern here?

The unfortunate thing is that this image was shared within a few progressive/liberal groups that I belong to, and the vast majority of people angrily responded without bothering to stop for a just a few seconds and use some critical thinking skills. Yes, we always want to hold the police accountable and punish members of law enforcement when they abuse their power, which is what happened in the case of this Oklahoma deputy. But pages like Cop Block and Corrupt Frisco Texas Cops aren’t interested in accountability as much as they seem to be interested in portraying all officers of the law in a bad light whenever possible, to further push their anti-government/anti-law enforcement agenda.

When we see an accusation made against law enforcement, we should certainly be concerned and seek justice. But we should also exercise our critical thinking skills and make sure we aren’t spreading manipulated or outright false information which furthers the agenda of radical anti-government interests.

*UPDATE* 09/25/14

Captain George Brown sent me the following email response about this story:

Mr. Schewitz,

I wanted to personally thank you for helping set the record straight,
regarding the recent negative comments directed toward me on social media.
Your article nailed it!

I was asked by a Tulsa television station to participate in an interview
regarding traffic stops made by state troopers. The station said they were
receiving comments from female viewers stating they, (females) were afraid
of recent alleged assaults by Oklahoma law enforcement.

The photographer made no mention of our interview being used along side a
story about the Tulsa County Deputy arrested for sexual assault(s). I made
several comments and gave tips about how troopers conduct traffic stops and
what motorists should look for from the trooper. At NO TIME did I ever
make a comment about “the best way to not get raped is to follow the law”.
The news station who conducted the interview decided to run my interview on
the heels of the Tulsa Deputy story, giving the impression it was all one
story. Now a few radical anti-police social media sites have embellished
the interview and made false statements (allegedly from me) in quotes, in
an apparent character assassination to further their anti-government
agenda.

I can assure you this statement is untrue and there is no taped interview
of me or any member of the patrol making any statement to that effect.
This is a blatant libel and defamation of character in order to misinform
the public about recent events surrounding law enforcement.

I’ve dedicated the largest portion of my career to helping bridge the gap
between law enforcement and media relations, and still have a deep love and
respect for media and professional journalists everywhere.

This has been one of the most trying and emotional events I’ve had to
endure since entering the public affairs arena over 14 years ago. People
have been attacking me personally and attempting character assassination
which strikes at the very heart of what I stand for. I am a public servant
and soldier of the law. I have been and always will be an advocate for
victims and victim’s rights.

For nearly 18 years as a state trooper, I’ve gladly laid my life on the
line countless times for people whom I didn’t know and have never met. Now
this negative social media attention has surely tested my faith.
Nevertheless, I’ll continue to stand up for victims everywhere and provide
words of support for anyone who has fallen victim to senseless violations
by lawbreakers, regardless of what context it is taken in.

In my humble opinion sir, I represent the finest law enforcement agency in
the state of Oklahoma. My brothers and sisters in law enforcement change
lives for the better each and every day. Sometimes our work is scrutinized
and we receive criticism from those who refuse to place themselves in harms
way for a stranger. I chose this profession because I believe my actions
will help someone in need, and if I help just one person in 20+ years of
service to my state, then all the criticism and scrutiny I’ve received is
worth the effort. I will never forget that I belong to something greater
than myself and I’ll continue to serve no matter how difficult things get
for me.

I appreciate your time in researching the truth and setting the record
straight!

Very respectfully,
Captain George Brown #47
Commander, Public Affairs
Oklahoma Highway Patrol

Watch the full, unedited interview here and see for yourself exactly what he said, and in what context he said it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DYNdqwx3LU


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  • William Cooper

    Thank you for checking the sources of anything we espouse, I get tired of people saying Liberals don’t check our facts, when many of us do.

    • Richard

      This author DID NOT CHECK THE FACTS…the OHP Captain SAID the statement to the reporter and it is in the raw video. This issue is damn near an epidemic in OK right now with not one not two but THREE officers raping women in the last 2 weeks and thats what we know of at this point.

      • Karenena

        It would blow Forward Progressives out of the water if you had a link to the clip. Do you have one?

  • bluelion

    As a retired state trooper, I knew from my 30 years that no self respecting supervisor would make a statement like that in public.

    • Sorry for being pissy on this, but are you implying that he WOULD say it, but just not in public???

      • bluelion

        I had supervisors, who might had said something different in private, but not to this degree.

      • John Michael Hutton

        So what you are saying is that don’t have the courage of their convictions? The convictions of a supporter of rapists. I wouldn’t want that to become common knowledge either.

      • Concetina

        and when your supervisors said those things in private, you agreed with it? If not, did you say something about it? If not, then you were a dirty cop.

      • Karenena

        I believe that’s exactly what he’s (accidentally) implying.

    • John Michael Hutton

      YEah, they might think it or say it in private but none would utter this to a reporter or on tape. Really doesn’t say much for them, does it?

    • Emperor Than

      Cept they did… According to KJRH in Tulsa who he spoke to. Who said directly what this article is claiming he didn’t say.

    • Karenena

      it was made in raw interview. he never intended it to go public.

      • MrLightRail

        Then link to the so called “raw interview”. or shut up.

  • Dan

    Make a meme, and no matter what it says, some people will believe it… mainly because they want to.

  • OKMomandsuch

    “The best tip that he can give it to follow the law so you don’t get pulled over.” Why does “don’t get pulled over” have to be on a list of ways to feel “safe and comfortable” around a police officer in any context? Why does there even have to be a list?? Does that not speak volumes about our lack of trust in law enforcement? I guess my thought is that I should always feel safe around the police, even when pulled over – maybe especially so. I understand that KJRH poorly connected the stories, but I still find it disconcerting. .

    • Daniel M

      Frankly to me it looks more like the anchor reiterated what Brown said off camera, not something the anchor came up with.

      • OKMomandsuch

        I agree. Just because she was the one who reported it doesn’t mean he didn’t originally say it. And if he truly didn’t, he needs to ask KJRH for a retraction, clarification, etc.

      • Richard

        That is EXACTLY what happened.

      • #icallbullshit

        “It looks more like” so that makes it a matter of fact and not your own supposed assumptions. I didn’t realize we had developed the technology to travel back in time so you could personally witness the event as it happened. That’s some pretty cool shit. Where do I get one?

      • Daniel M

        Well aren’t most of you also making assumptions that the anchor and not Brown, came up with this statement???

        Frankly I don’t see why a news anchor would make up such a statement–journalists are not in the businesses of making up news anymore.

  • Pjs8200

    When I saw that meme this morning, I immediately watched the youtube of the newscast and it was @ 3:23 when the newscaster made that statement, but attributed it to the officer.

    • Daniel M

      Exactly. It looks like Brown made this statement off camera and was reiterated by the anchor. However it was presented to us, it looks like Brown stated as such.

      • Concetina

        The reporter quoted Brown as making the statement, isn’t that the same as him saying it? If he didn’t say it to her, then he needs to sue the station.

  • What I find amazing are the FB comments. Half of them are angry post about what this cop did NOT say. They read the FB title and just assumed he said it.

    • Daniel M

      Because it was reiterated by the anchor, how do you know Brown didn’t say it off air. When looking closely at what the anchor said, it looks like Brown said these comments off camera, not something the anchor just came up with.

      • Carla Meridith

        How do I know YOU did not say something offensive?????

        You are a fucking asshat.

      • OKMomandsuch

        How does a comment like that help this conversation’s progression? Daniel has a valid point.

      • SLP

        As she says something offensive.

  • Melissa Snell

    So, you’re saying that the reporter completely made up this statement and lied. Just want to be clear about that. Not that the LEO might be lying and trying to cover his butt. Just making certain that the reporter just pulled this out of a hat.

  • AQ

    And this is why Forward Progressives is a billion times better than Addicting Mis-info.

    • Daniel M

      I don’t know this made me change my mind. The anchor attributed the comments to Brown–in other words it still looks like Brown said the comments off camera. I don’t think newscasters would write something like that.

      • MrLightRail

        Really? Like NBC editing Zimmerman’s 911 call to make him look guilty as hell? Or Fox News spinning yarns? Journalism is dead. Getting people riled up is their job now.

  • veronica Alleyne

    I know, driving along like that, she was just asking for it

  • david

    And i thought cop block was a lagit site. It popped up during the Ferguson shooting on facebook everywhere.

  • gabriel314

    I do like knowing the truth, but there’s plenty of reasons to be anti-government aside from this. Are there really people here who need someone else to tell them what to do in a violent fashion? I don’t. And I don’t want to pay for it either.

    • John

      Logical people like you and me follow the law without having to be “forced” to do so. Sadly, not all people are as intelligent, and in those instances, force is required.

      • gabriel314

        Well, violence begets violence. Any decent parent should know that. Our school and prison system Is almost geared toward ensuring that kids (in many school districts) get the opposite of an education, while our prison system seems geared toward anti-rehabilitation. And we pay an incredible amount for this financially and socially. Sociopaths/psychopaths, violent criminals and thieves belong in prisons, not pot smokers.

        Personally, I follow logical laws–I don’t know if I follow all the laws because there’s no way I could possibly know all the laws on a local, state and federal level.

  • Tom Scott

    So I have to make the guy with the gun feel safe? It would seem if they don’t feel safe just quit the job. Nobody drafted them to this job. Are fireman afraid of fire? No they respect it and obey rules to handle fires to make it safe to fight fires. Police do not respect anyone who are not police. They bend the rules to justify their actions. Then lie to cover up their actions. Just as police believe everyone is guilty of some thing, I believe they are all bad until they prove other wise.

    • I have been stopped several times by the local’s here in Skiatook and by the OHP . Only one time have I ever been harassed by an officer of the law, and it was at the local level. I have gotten one speeding ticket by a Tulsa county sheriff and I well deserved it ( I was 17 then). The OHP have always been polite and courteous to me, as I have been the same to them as well. I went to school with Brown, and I can say he has always been a very good person. The one and only time I was unhappy was in Skiatook, a local stopped me for a trailer light being out and I ended up in the patrol car after being asked three times if I had a gun. He thought I had stolen a bunch of lawnmowers and was determined to prove it. I had on a uniform that had my name and place of business I worked for at the time (mower repair shop in Skiatook). He was a total ass to me.

    • #icallbullshit

      You must be one of those “I am my own grandpa” guys. You ever put on a badge and gun and walk up to a car that may have someone like you inside? You know the asshole that thinks he doesn’t have to obey laws… that’s for “other” people. Do you go to work each day with the expectations of coming home at night? Do you also presume all of your coworkers steal from you until proven otherwise? Do you wish to be treated as guilty until proven innocent? No? Well your more than willing to dish it out but not willing to suffer the consequences of even your own rule… who’s the dictator now?

  • Terryl Terrell

    I saw this story posted and watched the video. I chose not to share it after watching the video because it did not accurately portray the officer’s statement. When we repost things without checking facts, we become as bad as Fox news and other propaganda machines.

    • Daniel M

      The anchor attributed it to Brown–so it looks like Brown made the comment off camera, but still made it. I don’t know that a newscaster would make something like that up.

  • Daniel M

    If you check even more closely, you will notice that the anchor said according to the captain–to avoid getting raped down break any laws…

    The anchor didn’t come up with those words, she was merely reposting something that Brown had already stated off camera.

    There’s you’re real story. Not this “out of context” crap.

  • ExpatZ

    Not a problem, the SCOTUS ruled that lying about or fabricating a story and presenting it as factual news is free speech.

    God bless America!

  • Joe

    Nice attempt…. but this whole “fact-check” is an attempt to sympathize with a police culture that victim-blames and protects its own. The question is, did he say what the news anchor said that he said. The rest is your attempt to sympathize.

    • faustinaagatha

      It is a smear of Libertarians. Because the author of this Fact Check piece does not message the messager(sp) must be discredited. Pretty shoddy “Fact checking” then.

  • Jay Ramey

    I was the first person, that I know of, to mention how what Captain George Brown was saying was completely outrageous.
    My comments were picked up by some other people and it went viral, as
    the saying goes. Let’s look at what Forward Progressives tries to tell
    us in support of the rapist cops:

    “Here’s the problem: the
    quote ‘then follow the law in the first place so you don’t get pulled
    over’ comes from the newscaster at the end of the video, not the Highway
    Patrol captain.”

    That is a misstatement of fact. Yes, the
    news reporter says it at the end of the story buts she attributed the
    “tip” to Captain Brown. Furthermore, I just now ran across the raw
    video of the interview with Captain Brown. Another reporter in Captain
    Brown’s office asks when pulled over and with “the stories we have heard
    in the media” (meaning all the Oklahoma police rape stories) and the
    woman being pulled over is thinking “is this going to be a bad situation
    or safe situation, what are some things you can do to protect
    yourself?” Captain Brown makes some statements about that is a valid
    question about what to do on a traffic stop, especially if female. He
    then says, “We suggest this. First and foremost do your part and do
    what it takes to obey the traffic laws and not get stopped.”

    So
    there it is. Captain Brown’s first “tip” to women that may be
    concerned about getting raped by the police is “to obey the traffic laws
    and not get stopped.” I quoted exactly what Captain Brown said in
    response to a question about what to do especially with all “the [police
    rape] stories we have heard in the media” The raw video of the
    interview in there online for anyone to find on the Channel 2 website.

    From Forward Progressives: “This quote pulls two parts of the entire
    news story together completely out of context. Captain George Brown’s
    appearance on the video tells people about what they should expect when
    dealing with law enforcement when pulled over and offers safety tips.
    However, the deputy who was arrested for assaulting women was responding
    to a call at a residence, not making a traffic stop.”

    What
    the author of the Forward Progressives article does not know, or chooses
    to ignore, or just lies about, is that “the stories we have heard in
    the media” in Oklahoma recently involve 3 incidents: 1. An Oklahoma
    City Police Officer raping women during traffic stops. 2. An Oklahoma
    Highway Patrol Trooper raping women during traffic stops. 3. Tulsa
    County Sheriff Gerald Nuckolls sexually molesting women at a house AND
    when he got arrested he admitted that he had done similar things to
    other women during traffic stops. What is it that the Forward
    Progressives author is not understanding or getting?

    From
    Forward Progressives: “The ‘then follow the law in the first place so
    you don’t get pulled over’ quote is also not only not uttered on the
    video by the officer, but it’s at the end of the video when the anchor
    is talking about traffic stops, and not directly in regards to the story
    about the accused deputy.”

    Again, at the end of the story the
    news reporter was paraphrasing a “tip” that she said was from Captain
    Brown. However, as I wrote above, the statement by the news reporter is
    almost a exact quote of what Captain Brown says during the interview
    that can be seen on the Channel 2 website. And again, I do not know why
    the author of the Forward Progressives does not get it: It is a story
    about “the accused deputy” because the deputy admitted to sexually
    molesting women on traffic stops AND an Oklahoma Highway Patrol Trooper
    has been arrested and charged with raping women during traffic stops AND
    an Oklahoma City Police Officer has been arrested and charged with
    raping women during traffic stops. Why the Forward Progressives author
    has trouble piecing all of this together and cannot understand that this
    is about police rape, whether on a traffic stop, or somewhere else, and
    why it matters where the police rape happens, is just beyond my
    comprehension.

  • Glen Graham

    The raw video of the interview with Captain Brown – is available on the KJRH – Channel 2 website. Another reporter in Captain Brown’s office asks when pulled over and with “the stories we have heard in the media” (meaning all the Oklahoma police rape stories) and the woman being pulled over is thinking “is this going to be a bad situation or safe situation, what are some things you can do to protect yourself?” Captain Brown makes some statements about that is a valid question about what to do on a traffic stop, especially if female. He then says, “We suggest this. First and foremost do your part and do what it takes to obey the traffic laws and not get stopped.”

    So there it is. Captain Brown’s first “tip” to women that may be concerned about getting raped by the police is “to obey the traffic laws and not get stopped.” Oklahoma rapes by law enforcement recently involve 3 incidents: 1. An Oklahoma City Police Officer raping women during traffic stops. 2. An Oklahoma Highway Patrol Trooper raping women during traffic stops. 3. Tulsa County Sheriff Gerald Nuckolls sexually molesting women at a house AND when he got arrested he admitted that he had done similar things to other women during traffic stops.

    • Richard

      Yep…he said it and is ass should be FIRED for even thinking something like that.

  • Concetina

    So, the reporter quoted the officer as saying it…(which is the same as him saying it)…so you support cops who rape women? Perhaps you should mention the other pages that facebook page likes, many are progressive sites…but you are a fact checker…lol

  • Emperor Than

    According to KJRH George Brown DID say don’t get pulled over in the first place to prevent rape incidents. Look that shit up. I TRUSTED this page’s “fact checking” abilities till I saw it on the local Tulsa news quoted as being trust. Their source GEORGE BROWN. So do some more fact checking next time Foreward Progressives.

  • Stephen Barlow

    SYG against crooked cops.

  • faustinaagatha

    You had me there MS since I came here to precisely fact check this story. Then at the end you showed your own bias by focusing on the messenger not the message. If the newscaster didi misquote the LEO, you would think that the OKHP would demand a retraction. So much for your fact checking.

  • Witchy Currier

    Oh making excuses for the PIGS ,,, HE DID SAY IT,,, GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT … CONCERNED CITIZEN OF OKLAHOMA

  • YepIjuStsAidthAt

    I have seen the video where Captain George Brown does state this. He does!!! The story with ORIGINAL footage of him saying this is on Huffington Post. Don’t disregard it bc it’s in that paper. Video is video, indisputable.

    • MrLightRail

      Then post a link to this so called original footage, otherwise I call bullshit.

  • YepIjuStsAidthAt

    People need to start planning on how to get this jerk out of office. This help is needed bc I keep getting shuffled around trying to get an answer from the Oklahoma DPS. I have family that have been police officers, even a sheriff & if any one of them plainly stated that in order to be sure not to get raped by a police officer, follow the law & not get pulled over (which we have no idea if these women, who were raped, even broke the law) is not only absolutely disgusting but they should step down before forced out. Then apologize for their ignorant statements. Please help me with this America!

  • YepIjuStsAidthAt

    CHECK THE HUFFINGTON POST!! VIDEO & EVERYTHING! HE SAID IT! IM YELLING BC THEY KEEP ERASING THE CORRECT SOURCE!

  • YepIjuStsAidthAt

    HUFFINGTON POST HAS THE RAW FOOTAGE BUT THIS SITE IS DETERMINED TO ERASE MY MSGS THAT GIVE INFO TO WHERE U CAN LOCATE IT!!

  • YepIjuStsAidthAt

    I’m writing a piece on this..plus I’m recording that this website is deleting the correct info I’m attempting to give PEACEFULLY! Y’all are begging for God to make your life worse!

  • Cemetery Girl

    Was it said by him or not? I don’t know. I have seen this same information on sites that aren’t just anti-police and the fact that there are comments that agree with the idea of “don’t do anything to be pulled over and you won’t be raped” is chilling. Apparently, for some people, violating a traffic law is also now justifiable grounds for rape. So let’s see, if you are female: don’t drink, don’t be alone with a male, don’t wear “provocative” clothing, don’t go out at night, don’t go anywhere alone, don’t speed or run a stop sign or have a taillight out…

  • Sally

    Manny is a fraud…

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  • Tsavo

    That is cool, I blame cops every time one of them is gunned down. Just blow back from decades upon decades of murder and oppression. Deal with it.

  • Wow. Who would’ve guessed that liberals are just as gullible and braindead as conservatives are ?

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